Ways to surgically improve the gonial angle?

[Deleted member 1849]

I have a 140 degree gonial angle, and an okay ramus. My gonial angle is horrible, Would a CCW improve it? A side wing ostetomy?

I want to achieve a 124 degree gonial angle.

 

[Deleted member 1849]

srs replys guys.

 

[Deleted member 1849]

bump

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[Darkstrand]

Chin shield I think

 

[Deleted member 1849]

Chin shield I think

how?

 

[Eezz]

Bump wanna know too. I have a very good mandible but gonial angle ruins it

 

[GordonFreeman]

A regular chin wing can do that
Nothing special
A Wraparound implant is another option
Ccw is for fixing occlusal plane only

 

[Darkstrand]

how?

Ment chin wing lol, look it up, works quite well, implant of course too but implants are implants

 

[hairyballscel]

chew

 

[Deleted member 1849]

A regular chin wing can do that
Nothing special
A Wraparound implant is another option
Ccw is for fixing occlusal plane only

chin wing does not.

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It makes jaw look circleish and makes it narrower. I'd rather get jaw implants tbh.

chew

Made me bloated, only looks good at very low bf and no bloat which I can't sustain.

 

[Deleted member 5912]

bimax with ccw or cw

 

[Deleted member 1849]

bimax with ccw or cw

Could this take a 140 degree gonial angle to a 124 degree angle?

 

[Deleted member 5912]

Could this take a 140 degree gonial angle to a 124 degree angle?

yes
but you need a surgeon that will give you this much improvement since most surgeons are high inhib pussies

 

[Deleted member 1849]

yes

no way, source? pics?

 

[Deleted member 5912]

but you need a surgeon that will give you this much improvement since most surgeons are high inhib pussies

no way, source? pics?

go to sinns

 

[Deleted member 1849]

go to sinns

Who?

 

[Deleted member 5912]

Who?

Advanced Facial and Oral Surgerywww.oralfacialsurgerydfw.com


pm me if you need actual surgery advice
I want to go to him when I grow up

 

[Deleted member 6942]

I have a 140 degree gonial angle, and an okay ramus. My gonial angle is horrible, Would a CCW improve it? A side wing ostetomy?

I want to achieve a 124 degree gonial angle.

What about fillers

 

[Deleted member 1849]

What about fillers

fillers are good but not permanent and can migrate make you permabloated.

 

[Deleted member 6942]

fillers are good but not permanent and can migrate make you permabloated.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the migration problem is only present if you inject them in your cheeks or upper face in general, it does not happen on the jaw and fillers on the jaw also last way longer

 

[Copemaxxing]

Lol of course ccw rotation would change your gonial angle into the better.

 

[Incoming]

Bimax with ccw rotation, facepulling, implants can also change gonial angle but you’ll still look recessed

 

[Nisse]

If your gonial angle only looks bad from the side it isnt worth fixing imo

 

[Deleted member 1849]

If your gonial angle only looks bad from the side it isnt worth fixing imo

Why?

 

[Copemaxxing]

Why?

His talking shit jfl. 140 deg angle means recessed No doubt.

 

[Nisse]

Why?

Because side profile isnt that important but if its bugging you sure go for it

 

[Deleted member 1849]

His talking shit jfl. 140 deg angle means recessed No doubt.

yea, figured.

 

[patricknotstar]

I have a 140 degree gonial angle, and an okay ramus. My gonial angle is horrible, Would a CCW improve it? A side wing ostetomy?

I want to achieve a 124 degree gonial angle.

Wrap around jaw implant , chin wing(has to be certain type of cut where increases Ramus length)

 

[GordonFreeman]

makes it narrower

If it's a long chin wing, the surgeon could move parts of the mandible to the side as well, thus expanding mandibular base

 

[Elias]

The reason your mandible is at 140 degrees is because your maxilla is also downswung.
That means you need to increase the coronal growth of both your maxilla and mandible.

The long term, precautionary fix is is mew, keep good posture and don’t mouthbreathe, chew hard gum.

The surgical fix, would be 16 degrees ccw of both the maxilla and mandible, along side a bimax and potentially a sliding (vertical and/or horizontally) genioplasty.

Facspulling with the ‘facebow’ with MSE, which apparently youre getting, can theoretically bring the maxilla saggitally and coronally, making your mandible follow, in the end result your mandibles gonial angle will decrease, aswell as being projected more horizontally.

I wouldn’t recommend a chinwing if you’re looking to significantly improve your gonial angle.

I believe theres surgeries that can improve the gonial angle that aren’t available to the public yet.

Also, 99.% of surgeons would not dare to do 16 degrees ccw of both of your maxilla and mandible. Realistically aim for 6-10 degrees, even that Id say is a stretch.

 

[Deleted member 1849]

The reason your mandible is at 140 degrees is because your maxilla is also downswung.
That means you need to increase the coronal growth of both your maxilla and mandible.

The long term, precautionary fix is is mew, keep good posture and don’t mouthbreathe, chew hard gum.

The surgical fix, would be 16 degrees ccw of both the maxilla and mandible, along side a bimax and potentially a sliding (vertical and/or horizontally) genioplasty.

Facspulling with the ‘facebow’ with MSE, which apparently youre getting, can theoretically bring the maxilla saggitally and coronally, making your mandible follow, in the end result your mandibles gonial angle will decrease, aswell as being projected more horizontally.

I wouldn’t recommend a chinwing if you’re looking to significantly improve your gonial angle.

I believe theres surgeries that can improve the gonial angle that aren’t available to the public yet.

Also, 99.% of surgeons would not dare to do 16 degrees ccw of both of your maxilla and mandible. Realistically aim for 6-10 degrees, even that Id say is a stretch.

Yeah, I'm recessed as fuck tbh.

Would 8 degrees of CCW + 10mm Bimax and 10mm sliding genio and side wing osetoemy be good for overall forward growth of the jaw and the maxilla as well as widening the bigonial width?

 

[OOGABOOGA]

A regular chin wing can do that
Nothing special
A Wraparound implant is another option
Ccw is for fixing occlusal plane only

Elab on occlusal plane pls

 

[Deleted member 1849]

A regular chin wing can do that
Nothing special
A Wraparound implant is another option
Ccw is for fixing occlusal plane only

CCW stands for counter clockwise rotation, rotating the maxilla and mandible from a downswung position. I think you have it mixed up.

Also your jaw surgery results looked fucking amazing. good job bro. Andrischev is a god.