Weight lifting and height loss

[Epola]

Recently discovered that deadlifts and squats etc cause height loss. Which of course makes a kind of sense since we know spinal compression over time causes height loss, people reaching their peak height at the end of adolescence and then going down from there; more rapid height loss beginning at around 40... So [bodyweight] spinal compression + time = spinal shrinkage and height loss. The permanence of spinal shrinkage comes from calcification of the spine, accelerating as you get older. Squatting or deadlifting heavy weight consistently over years is going to cause significant spinal compression, and while this compression might not have immediate permanence, eventually calcification will take effect and you will lose height (probably unrecoverably). I think most veteran lifters have probably lost an average of about an inch of height. Don't know why this isn't talked about more, but it's definitely a real thing. Anything that vertically loads the spine will gradually shrink you. What do you guys think

 

[Epola]

it should also be noted that you can probably use the opposite effect to gain height. consistent spinal decompression + time = spine lengthening

 

[Deleted member 11748]

no, there's no correlation. Dumb faggot tier thread

 

[Deleted member 13787]

does that mean that im at an advantage (height wise) if im laying around all day?

 

[Deleted member 7044]

consistent spinal decompression

how

 

[Epola]

no, there's no correlation. Dumb faggot tier thread

I am right about everything

 

[Deleted member 7785]

better do calisthenics

 

[Epola]

does that mean that im at an advantage (height wise) if im laying around all day?

yes. a sedentary lifestyle also weakens the posterior chain and makes aged height loss more drastic

 

[Epola]

better do calisthenics

calisthenics are good, but I'm really not saying people shouldn't weight lift. there are lots of alternatives to movements which don't cause spinal compression. it's really up to everyone what kind of risks they want to take, obviously you just have to be aware of the risks before you can make educated decisions

 

[Deleted member 13787]

yes. a sedentary lifestyle also weakens the posterior chain and makes aged height loss more drastic

also unrelated, if my brother was 5'11 (like me) at my age (16) but had a 2nd growth spurt and grew to 6'2 until 22, will i have the same?

 

[Deleted member 11479]

how

chin ups/pull ups

 

[Epola]

Later born children tend to be taller than their older siblings so it's possible you might even outdo him. Not saying that's a sure thing at all (growing until 22 is a significant outlier). but you can make lifestyle changes to maximize your own growth which I might make a separate thread on. do everything you can to increase natural hgh production, which I'd encourage you to research independently if you're serious about it.

 

[189]

someone told me to not exercise so that the HGH used in muscle hypertrophy would be rather used to increase vertical bone growth...
might sound stupid but i haven't exercised in 4 months

someone, please confirm that theory, i miss exercising jfl

 

[Deleted member 1338]

imagine not dead-lifting because you are afraid to lose 2mm of height in your 60s and nobody is ever going to tell.

 

[Deleted member 13787]

someone told me to not exercise so that the HGH used in muscle hypertrophy would be rather used to increase vertical bone growth...
might sound stupid but i haven't exercised in 4 months

someone, please confirm that theory, i miss exercising jfl

if true i might hold off on going to the gym and just get a better diet to be leaner.

 

[Epola]

someone told me to not exercise so that the HGH used in muscle hypertrophy would be rather used to increase vertical bone growth...
might sound stupid but i haven't exercised in 4 months

someone, please confirm that theory, i miss exercising jfl

exercise increases hgh production

 

[189]

exercise increases hgh production

only for a short period of time

 

[IdiAmin]

"Yes, I'm 5'6 but I used to be 6'6 till I started powerlifting" lol

 

[Epola]

only for a short period of time

yeah but so what

 

[189]

yeah but so what

that hgh spike for small periods can't increase height

 

[Epola]

that hgh spike for small periods can't increase height

It's debatable but it's not really the point. your body uses that hgh to build and repair muscle tissue. so if your body needs {1 hgh to grow and high intensity exercise raises your hgh production to {1.5, even if 100% of that .5 hgh is spent on muscle growth then bone development won't be effected. plenty of athletes hit their growth spurt after they get involved in sports. not saying they'res necessarily a positive correlation there but we can say pretty definitively that exercise alone almost definitely will not make you shorter

 

[Deleted member 4466]

lol I’ve been lifting non-stop since I was 14 and I’m almost 6’5” so idgaf

 

[189]

It's debatable but it's not really the point. your body uses that hgh to build and repair muscle tissue. so if your body needs {1 hgh to grow and high intensity exercise raises your hgh production to {1.5, even if 100% of that .5 hgh is spent on muscle growth then bone development won't be effected. plenty of athletes hit their growth spurt after they get involved in sports. not saying they'res necessarily a positive correlation there but we can say pretty definitively that exercise alone almost definitely will not make you shorter

i think the conclusion = over exercise ( at the point of exhaustion) stunt growth

 

[189]

i think the conclusion = over exercise ( at the point of exhaustion) stunt growth

Role of Intensive Training in the Growth and Maturation of Artistic Gymnasts

Short stature and later maturation of youth artistic gymnasts are often attributed to the effects of intensive training from a young age. Given limitations of available data, inadequate specification of training, failure to consider other factors affecting ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

if anyone has time and have high IQ ,read this study and make a thread about it jfl

 

[TITUS]

Post studies or Auschwitz.
Having a strong back actually prevents you from shrinking and also prevents you from having other back issues. You don't need to lift too heavy for this.

 

[Epola]

Role of Intensive Training in the Growth and Maturation of Artistic Gymnasts

Short stature and later maturation of youth artistic gymnasts are often attributed to the effects of intensive training from a young age. Given limitations of available data, inadequate specification of training, failure to consider other factors affecting ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

if anyone has time and have high IQ ,read this study and make a thread about it jfl

I think it's an interesting theory but according to the abstract of that study their theory about negative impact on pubertal endocrinology caused by overtraining failed to be proven (if for lack of ability to gather data on something so complex). There are many sports which require difficult exercise regimens through adolescence, just like gymnastics, and yet where there is an advantage in being tall we see tall athletes and where there is advantage in being short, we see short athletes. It would be interesting to see the theory studied more in depth but I don't really think it has ground. Overtraining in very extreme cases can cause reactions in the body similar to sickness and I think this very well could have the endocrinological impacts they were looking for, but I think that level of overtraining is probably reserved to mostly insane weight lifters doing way too much way too fast or people working with extremely heavy weight in long workouts. Higher rep ranges are easier for your body to recover from. So if you're really concerned about it, you could take things at an easier intensity but exercise is generally good for your endocrinological system, as well as for your body as a whole

 

[Epola]

Post studies or Auschwitz.
Having a strong back actually prevents you from shrinking and also prevents you from having other back issues. You don't need to lift too heavy for this.

absolutely

 

[ratiorichard]

if the weight is severe enough then i would see that happening. ur only lifting that weight for a small amount of time though if u decompress ur spine hanging on a bar with weights i think that should negate the effects.

 

[Mouthbreath]

someone told me to not exercise so that the HGH used in muscle hypertrophy would be rather used to increase vertical bone growth...
might sound stupid but i haven't exercised in 4 months

someone, please confirm that theory, i miss exercising jfl

whats more important is nutrition

eat as much animal fats as possible and get all the important micronutrients

 

[JawGuyFatFaceGuy]

Recently discovered that deadlifts and squats etc cause height loss. Which of course makes a kind of sense since we know spinal compression over time causes height loss, people reaching their peak height at the end of adolescence and then going down from there; more rapid height loss beginning at around 40... So [bodyweight] spinal compression + time = spinal shrinkage and height loss. The permanence of spinal shrinkage comes from calcification of the spine, accelerating as you get older. Squatting or deadlifting heavy weight consistently over years is going to cause significant spinal compression, and while this compression might not have immediate permanence, eventually calcification will take effect and you will lose height (probably unrecoverably). I think most veteran lifters have probably lost an average of about an inch of height. Don't know why this isn't talked about more, but it's definitely a real thing. Anything that vertically loads the spine will gradually shrink you. What do you guys think

Jfl at overthinking about this

 

[Deleted member 13936]

Recently discovered that deadlifts and squats etc cause height loss. Which of course makes a kind of sense since we know spinal compression over time causes height loss, people reaching their peak height at the end of adolescence and then going down from there; more rapid height loss beginning at around 40... So [bodyweight] spinal compression + time = spinal shrinkage and height loss. The permanence of spinal shrinkage comes from calcification of the spine, accelerating as you get older. Squatting or deadlifting heavy weight consistently over years is going to cause significant spinal compression, and while this compression might not have immediate permanence, eventually calcification will take effect and you will lose height (probably unrecoverably). I think most veteran lifters have probably lost an average of about an inch of height. Don't know why this isn't talked about more, but it's definitely a real thing. Anything that vertically loads the spine will gradually shrink you. What do you guys think

it will uncompress and you will go back to ur normal height but when you age there is nothing you can do about it

 

[AHAHAXDDD]

does that mean that im at an advantage (height wise) if im laying around all day?

yes unironically but jfl if u think people can notice 1cm

 

[Deleted member 25965]

it should also be noted that you can probably use the opposite effect to gain height. consistent spinal decompression + time = spine lengthening

by far some of the dumbest shit i've ever heard

 

[Mr.Proper]

by far some of the dumbest shit i've ever heard

It works, but after growing age is over it will only be temporary, you have to do these exercises and stretches to maintain it.