what am i capped at even with potential hardmaxxes and how can i ascend

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im a greycel and know almost nothing abt all the angle and ratio calculations for psl or harmony but i know some of the big flaws i have, im around 30% bodyfat rn i know thats the biggest priority but even after cutting down to 12% bf theres gonna be issues especially midface and eye area bones i think.

idk what it is but something js seems really off with my eyes or eye area i look tired/lethargic even when energetic and the outer corner of my eye goes too close to the edge of my skull i think. my eyebrows were naturally kinda high set and very arched instead of low set and straight, also they would get really thin at the outer parts of the eyebrow which makes me look unfocused and tired. im working on that with minoxidil and fatloss though.

i posted these photos before and ppl said htn but thats not true my double chin and face fat looks drastically reduced in my front camera and when i turn my head, even if these photos are somehow htn im undoubtedly ltn irl because of the facefat atleast. i couldnt get much advice other than fatloss which sucks cuz just fatloss isnt gonna make me flawless. i did also mention im 6'5 in those posts which i shouldnt have cuz halo but the 6'5 part does nothing irl when also 30% bf and looking how i do rn. idk if i have good bones at all especially zygo related, i optimistically thought my mandible atleast was strong but considering how it looks under my very flat maxilla my mandible might need work too. i feel the bone under my eye and they feel kinda flat so i might have flat zygos/cheekbones too

my structure is still somewhat visible even with the 30% bodyfat so any suggestions on what hardmaxxes (after fatloss) and softmaxxes would benefit me the most are greatly appreciated. sorry for the paragraphs im just really tired of this. im willing to hardmax esp if im still boneless after fat loss (wouldnt do very much when covered with fat)
 

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worst fear is being capped in mtn or maybe lhtn even if i hardmaxx like implants, rhino, etc.
 
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shave that fucking beard IMMEDIATLY, like RIGHT NOW and get some sleep bro:lul::lul:
 
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gang i aint ever seen someone who looks like u ( not in a good way btw )
 
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shave that fucking beard IMMEDIATLY, like RIGHT NOW and get some sleep bro:lul::lul:
These photos are a couple weeks apart lol the clean goatee in the front profile photo is what i have now
 
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im a greycel and know almost nothing abt all the angle and ratio calculations for psl or harmony but i know some of the big flaws i have, im around 30% bodyfat rn i know thats the biggest priority but even after cutting down to 12% bf theres gonna be issues especially midface and eye area bones i think.

idk what it is but something js seems really off with my eyes or eye area i look tired/lethargic even when energetic and the outer corner of my eye goes too close to the edge of my skull i think. my eyebrows were naturally kinda high set and very arched instead of low set and straight, also they would get really thin at the outer parts of the eyebrow which makes me look unfocused and tired. im working on that with minoxidil and fatloss though.

i posted these photos before and ppl said htn but thats not true my double chin and face fat looks drastically reduced in my front camera and when i turn my head, even if these photos are somehow htn im undoubtedly ltn irl because of the facefat atleast. i couldnt get much advice other than fatloss which sucks cuz just fatloss isnt gonna make me flawless. i did also mention im 6'5 in those posts which i shouldnt have cuz halo but the 6'5 part does nothing irl when also 30% bf and looking how i do rn. idk if i have good bones at all especially zygo related, i optimistically thought my mandible atleast was strong but considering how it looks under my very flat maxilla my mandible might need work too. i feel the bone under my eye and they feel kinda flat so i might have flat zygos/cheekbones too

my structure is still somewhat visible even with the 30% bodyfat so any suggestions on what hardmaxxes (after fatloss) and softmaxxes would benefit me the most are greatly appreciated. sorry for the paragraphs im just really tired of this. im willing to hardmax esp if im still boneless after fat loss (wouldnt do very much when covered with fat)
im obviously ethnic btw
 
These photos are a couple weeks apart lol the clean goatee in the front profile photo is what i have now
shave that off too, trust me bro
 
shave that off too, trust me bro
And then my double chin is on show at every single angle what then

I can go full clean shave when im low bf% id descend even further if i take it off rn + im ethnic so facial hairs normal
 
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And then my double chin is on show at every single angle what then

I can go full clean shave when im low bf% id descend even further if i take it off rn + im ethnic so facial hairs normal
lose weight and then do it + you dont even have double chin, debloat asap too
 
I think ur eyebrows are fine and they aren’t too high set just body fat problem but the thing around ur eyes is making u look uncanny so whatever ur doing make sure I fix that get enough sleep or smth idk but if ur 30 percent ur face doesnt look thwt fat for 30 percent so I could see u having hollow cheeks easily when u cut down but also I think u should clean shave u alr have quite Good bone mass so that’s alright but I think ur upper lip is so big in comparison to ur lower it should be like half the size so if u lose body fat that might help but idk how to fix that if not
 
im a greycel and know almost nothing abt all the angle and ratio calculations for psl or harmony but i know some of the big flaws i have, im around 30% bodyfat rn i know thats the biggest priority but even after cutting down to 12% bf theres gonna be issues especially midface and eye area bones i think.

idk what it is but something js seems really off with my eyes or eye area i look tired/lethargic even when energetic and the outer corner of my eye goes too close to the edge of my skull i think. my eyebrows were naturally kinda high set and very arched instead of low set and straight, also they would get really thin at the outer parts of the eyebrow which makes me look unfocused and tired. im working on that with minoxidil and fatloss though.

i posted these photos before and ppl said htn but thats not true my double chin and face fat looks drastically reduced in my front camera and when i turn my head, even if these photos are somehow htn im undoubtedly ltn irl because of the facefat atleast. i couldnt get much advice other than fatloss which sucks cuz just fatloss isnt gonna make me flawless. i did also mention im 6'5 in those posts which i shouldnt have cuz halo but the 6'5 part does nothing irl when also 30% bf and looking how i do rn. idk if i have good bones at all especially zygo related, i optimistically thought my mandible atleast was strong but considering how it looks under my very flat maxilla my mandible might need work too. i feel the bone under my eye and they feel kinda flat so i might have flat zygos/cheekbones too

my structure is still somewhat visible even with the 30% bodyfat so any suggestions on what hardmaxxes (after fatloss) and softmaxxes would benefit me the most are greatly appreciated. sorry for the paragraphs im just really tired of this. im willing to hardmax esp if im still boneless after fat loss (wouldnt do very much when covered with fat)
Quick and fast working tips from me is shaving beard , getting better sleep + strong dosed caffeine serum , and only cleaning up ur eyebrows not changing the shape ,
Ur very highest achiebanle level is high mtn maybe at most low htn my personal opinion but u need to have fat grafting done on eye brows and “almond eye “ surgery too , double jaw implants , titanium zygo implants ,eye brightening drops or laser treatment , extreme chemical skin peel treatment for possible ( scars ) acne or discolouration , btw all those in total cost around 350 k dollars at the minimum and will take minimum 5-8 years of just consulting many surgeons and getting sometimes mutliple day long surgery’s and having to recover for months at a time . If all that is worth it to u good luck
 
Quick and fast working tips from me is shaving beard , getting better sleep + strong dosed caffeine serum , and only cleaning up ur eyebrows not changing the shape ,
Ur very highest achiebanle level is high mtn maybe at most low htn my personal opinion but u need to have fat grafting done on eye brows and “almond eye “ surgery too , double jaw implants , titanium zygo implants ,eye brightening drops or laser treatment , extreme chemical skin peel treatment for possible ( scars ) acne or discolouration , btw all those in total cost around 350 k dollars at the minimum and will take minimum 5-8 years of just consulting many surgeons and getting sometimes mutliple day long surgery’s and having to recover for months at a time . If all that is worth it to u good luck
Tbh the side profile pics were kinda old and bad

Im using caffiene serum but mtn max potential after going from 30%+ bf to 12% is harsh no?

Whats almond eye surgery

No way all that costs 350k either acne scars can be faded overtime

Do i rly need jaw implants? I thought my mandible was decent underneath all the fat
 
Tbh the side profile pics were kinda old and bad

Im using caffiene serum but mtn max potential after going from 30%+ bf to 12% is harsh no?

Whats almond eye surgery

No way all that costs 350k either acne scars can be faded overtime

Do i rly need jaw implants? I thought my mandible was decent underneath all the fat
Didn’t include getting lean in potential with 15 or less progeny body fat definitely puts u in htn area . The high cost is mostly the traveling cost ( turkey , italy , south korea only countries worth getting surgery ) and hotel , food , past surgeon meetings fee , using the highest quality price range , all of that adds up to around that but u can still do half or more of the surgery’s names with less than 100k . Gonna be honest forgot the specific term for the almond eye surgery but just look it up on tiktok and you’ll find it . And ur mandible issue , getting lean isn’t a guarantee for seeing bones or any definition in ur face and i also can’t tell u if u need jaw surgery or not without atleast 15% body fat
 
Didn’t include getting lean in potential with 15 or less progeny body fat definitely puts u in htn area . The high cost is mostly the traveling cost ( turkey , italy , south korea only countries worth getting surgery ) and hotel , food , past surgeon meetings fee , using the highest quality price range , all of that adds up to around that but u can still do half or more of the surgery’s names with less than 100k . Gonna be honest forgot the specific term for the almond eye surgery but just look it up on tiktok and you’ll find it . And ur mandible issue , getting lean isn’t a guarantee for seeing bones or any definition in ur face and i also can’t tell u if u need jaw surgery or not without atleast 15% body fat
I could see this kinda curve forming on my face even at 30% bf a couple days ago is this a good sign of potential or nah? Idk what the shape is called but under some lighting its visoble at this high bf% i wonder if it means anything
 

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Not trying to sound pessimistic but that doesn’t really mean anything since that is just ur fat,muscle,skin wrapping around ur skull , and the thing i think ur talking about is called gonial angle
 
Here are some pictures of correct examples for reference
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Not trying to sound pessimistic but that doesn’t really mean anything since that is just ur fat,muscle,skin wrapping around ur skull , and the thing i think ur talking about is called gonial angle
Gonial angle is not what im talking about brotato chip, that stuffs covered underneath my beard

im talking ab the light curve shit, i think its called an ogee curve, thats by some miracle discernible at 30% bodyfat even when im a round faced balloon. Maybe it means i have good bone mass in jaw and lateral zygos or something
 
Oh that’s what u meant okay . Also bro it’s impossible to see that bone curve at that body fat percentage even if their genetic miracles and psl 7 . I gave u some examples that might be what u mean
 
im a greycel and know almost nothing abt all the angle and ratio calculations for psl or harmony but i know some of the big flaws i have, im around 30% bodyfat rn i know thats the biggest priority but even after cutting down to 12% bf theres gonna be issues especially midface and eye area bones i think.

idk what it is but something js seems really off with my eyes or eye area i look tired/lethargic even when energetic and the outer corner of my eye goes too close to the edge of my skull i think. my eyebrows were naturally kinda high set and very arched instead of low set and straight, also they would get really thin at the outer parts of the eyebrow which makes me look unfocused and tired. im working on that with minoxidil and fatloss though.

i posted these photos before and ppl said htn but thats not true my double chin and face fat looks drastically reduced in my front camera and when i turn my head, even if these photos are somehow htn im undoubtedly ltn irl because of the facefat atleast. i couldnt get much advice other than fatloss which sucks cuz just fatloss isnt gonna make me flawless. i did also mention im 6'5 in those posts which i shouldnt have cuz halo but the 6'5 part does nothing irl when also 30% bf and looking how i do rn. idk if i have good bones at all especially zygo related, i optimistically thought my mandible atleast was strong but considering how it looks under my very flat maxilla my mandible might need work too. i feel the bone under my eye and they feel kinda flat so i might have flat zygos/cheekbones too

my structure is still somewhat visible even with the 30% bodyfat so any suggestions on what hardmaxxes (after fatloss) and softmaxxes would benefit me the most are greatly appreciated. sorry for the paragraphs im just really tired of this. im willing to hardmax esp if im still boneless after fat loss (wouldnt do very much when covered with fat)
Dethnic pheno
 

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