What are actually good shoulder/hip and shoulder/waist ratios ?

[Almu]

What is a good ratio and what is framecel

 

[Almu]

 

[Deleted member 2846]

ask in looksmax section jfl

 

[william]

the golden ratio, son

your circumference of your shoulders should be your waist multiplied by the golden ratio.

for example if your waist circumference is 70cm, your shoulder circumference should be 70 x 1.61803398875

which is a shoulder circumference of 113cm

 

[Golden Glass]

the golden ratio, son

your circumference of your shoulders should be your waist multiplied by the golden ratio.

for example if your waist circumference is 70cm, your shoulder circumference should be 70 x 1.61803398875

which is a shoulder circumference of 113cm

Circumference is a retarded way of measuring that.

You building up your upper pecs and rear delts a lot will increase your shoulder circumference, it will do nothing to improve how wide your shoulders look in comparison to how wide your hips/waist are.

You need to be comparing WIDTH. Not circumference.

So your shoulder WIDTH aka bideltoid, should be what’s at least 1.618 times your waist WIDTH.

 

[Almu]

Circumference is a retarded way of measuring that.

You building up your upper pecs and rear delts a lot will increase your shoulder circumference, it will do nothing to improve how wide your shoulders look in comparison to how wide your hips/waist are.

You need to be comparing WIDTH. Not circumference.

So your shoulder WIDTH aka bideltoid, should be what’s at least 1.618 times your waist WIDTH.

Do I measure it by talking the wides part of my shoulders.I saw different methods

 

[william]

So your shoulder WIDTH aka bideltoid, should be what’s at least 1.618 times your waist WIDTH.

indeed but unless you have calipers you will definitely not measure it accurately. the amount of people that claim ridiculous bideltoid is so high.

whereas i can just use a tailors tape and measure circumference easily and since the circumference is near my collarbones, my pecs will barely make the measurement different.

 

[Swolepenisman]

Idk tbh

 

[Almu]

indeed but unless you have calipers you will definitely not measure it accurately. the amount of people that claim ridiculous bideltoid is so high.

whereas i can just use a tailors tape and measure circumference easily and since the circumference is near my collarbones, my pecs will barely make the measurement different.

I will just do the ratio in photoshop I guess. But Shouldnt be hip also be the same size as waist ? Isn't that really rare ?

 

[Golden Glass]

indeed but unless you have calipers you will definitely not measure it accurately. the amount of people that claim ridiculous bideltoid is so high.

whereas i can just use a tailors tape and measure circumference easily and since the circumference is near my collarbones, my pecs will barely make the measurement different.

Yes but where do you get the assumption that someone with a 1.61 shoulder to waist width ratio would have the same ratio when it comes to circumference? If are lean, your waist will be far less “thick”, from a front to back measurement, than your upper torso where your shoulders are. This difference in “thickness”, will overestimate your true ratio.

And yes I agree most people won’t even properly physically measure their bideltoid or waist width, however, all you have to do is take a picture of your torso from the front, and then measure the ratio based off the shoulder width and waist width of the picture. You won’t get an inches measurement, but you will know your ratio.

 

[william]

Yes but where do you get the assumption that someone with a 1.61 shoulder to waist width ratio would have the same ratio when it comes to circumference? If are lean, your waist will be far less “thick”, from a front to back measurement, than your upper torso where your shoulders are. This difference in “thickness”, will overestimate your true ratio.

And yes I agree most people won’t even properly physically measure their bideltoid or waist width, however, all you have to do is take a picture of your torso from the front, and then measure the ratio based off the shoulder width and waist width of the picture. You won’t get an inches measurement, but you will know your ratio.

indeed i forgot about measuring it that way. i always just used circumference because it seemed closer to the number and the ratio seemed high when i did it.

 

[Swolepenisman]

Think my ratio is decent I have nice joocy ass and thighs too

 

[Chad69]

What is a good ratio and what is framecel

Good ratio is 1.6 shoulder waist...everything bellow is framecel

 

[Almu]

Good ratio is 1.6 shoulder waist...everything bellow is framecel

What about hip ?

 

[Chad69]

What about hip ?

Iam not sure about hips but...hips needs to be narow (a little bit wider than your waist)

 

[Golden Glass]

Good ratio is 1.6 shoulder waist...everything bellow is framecel

I even think 1.618 isn’t even “ideal” for shoulder-waist ratio.

It’s literally just a ratio that’s found a lot in nature; it became a sort of widely accepted idea after some fitness blogs starting preaching it as being applicable to shoulder-waist.

I‘ve morphed a body that was about 1.6, to 1.7 and above and there’s absolutely no way to argue that 1.6 looks better, maybe you can argue they look equal in attractiveness, but assuming 1.618 is an ideal is unwarranted—unless there’s studies showing women prefer this ratio for shoulder-waist width over anything even slightly higher.

 

[Almu]

Iam not sure about hips but...hips need to be narow (a little bit wider than your waist)

And where is the waist exactly. Is it the thinnist part ? I see so many pics where they show different

 

[Chad69]

And where is the waist exactly. Is it the thinnist part ? I see so many pics where they show different

Yes,the thinnest part..those who tell difrent are retarded

 

[Almu]

Yes,the thinnest part..those who tell difrent are retarded

Its 1.79 but Im ausschwitzmaxxed.

 

[Chad69]

Its 1.79 but Im ausschwitzmaxxed.

Seems like you have good genetics....just workout your middle shoulder to get even wider shoulders

 

[Almu]

Seems like you have good genetics....just workout your middle shoulder to get even wider shoulders

Dude my frame is shit. This cant be accurate.

 

[Chad69]

Dude my frame is shit. This cant be accurate.

Send me pic in pm bro....i will respond in the morning

 

[Deleted member 2227]

Yes

 

[Almu]

Send me pic in pm bro....i will respond in the morning

Nah dude. Actually high inhib to send this shit frame to anyone. I legit look like Im coming from a kz

 

[Pietrosiek]

2.0 shoulder to waist and 1.0 hip to waist

 

[Chad69]

Nah dude. Actually high inhib to send this shit frame to anyone. I legit look like Im coming from a kz

Just bulk up than

 

[Swolepenisman]

Nah dude. Actually high inhib to send this shit frame to anyone. I legit look like Im coming from a kz

Take a pic then outline the picture with photo tool and send

 

[Almu]

Take a pic then outline the picture with photo tool and send

Thats actually high IQ

 

[SuicideBomber]

Mine is good. tbh

 

[Swolepenisman]

Thats actually high IQ

Yes

 

[Jack Storm]

How would you rate this frame?