What are my biggest failos that make me ltn?

[HappyCake07]

Thanks for replying

 

[SQL2VD]

your chin looks recessed asf

 

[idkusernameidk]

Horrible eye area and narrow face

 

[HappyCake07]

your chin looks recessed asf

Here is a side profile, how recessed am I? Is it severe or just a bit?

 

[HappyCake07]

Horrible eye area and narrow face

What steps can I take to fix? Without surgery since im 16

 

[LiteralChud]

View attachment 4333726Here is a side profile, how recessed am I? Is it severe or just a bit?

your face lacks forward growth a lot.

 

[HappyCake07]

your face lacks forward growth a lot.

How can I promote forward growth?

 

[insignia_]

Your lower third in general is your biggest issue

 

[TheOsei]

Thanks for replying

Nose deviation (rhino later)
Light brows and lashes (oral minoxidil)
Thin upper lip (filler)
start squintmaxxing too
weak zygos & ogee curve

 

[shngstaaaa107]

Thanks for replying

not ltn, LMTN, your eyes and chin are your weak points as everone here says

chin is hard to solve without surgery

 

[HappyCake07]

Your lower third in general is your biggest issue

Is it just genetic or is there anything I can do?

 

[insignia_]

How can I promote forward growth?

There’s no way to, surgery is the only way. You need lefort 1, bsso, and genio

 

[HappyCake07]

not ltn, LMTN, your eyes and chin are your weak points as everone here says

chin is hard to solve without surgery

What softmaxes would work (not for specifically the chin but in general)

 

[HappyCake07]

There’s no way to, surgery is the only way. You need lefort 1, bsso, and genio

I see okay, thanks for the reply

 

[HappyCake07]

Nose deviation (rhino later)
Light brows and lashes (oral minoxidil)
Thin upper lip (filler)
start squintmaxxing too
weak zygos & ogee curve

Thanks

 

[TheOsei]

Thanks

do 6iu hgh and 200mg test for bones

 

[shngstaaaa107]

What softmaxes would work (not for specifically the chin but in general)

debloat n skincare as well as what TheOsei said

 

[HappyCake07]

do 6iu hgh and 200mg test for bones

At 16? Will this shut down my natural system?

 

[insignia_]

I see okay, thanks for the reply

Those are surgeries you can and should consider, but there are plenty of softmaxxes you can do to look better before ever considering any surgery

 

[HappyCake07]

Thank you

debloat n skincare as well as what TheOsei said

 

[HappyCake07]

Those are surgeries you can and should consider, but there are plenty of softmaxxes you can do to look better before ever considering any surgery

What would you suggest?

 

[TheOsei]

At 16? Will this shut down my natural system?

hgh wont. test will tho but stop at 18 or whenever ur done growing and should be fine on PCT after

 

[HappyCake07]

hgh wont. test will tho but stop at 18 or whenever ur done growing and should be fine on PCT after

Thanks bro

 

[insignia_]

hgh wont. test will tho but stop at 18 or whenever ur done growing and should be fine on PCT after

he should probably also be on hcg throughout his entire cycle. ive never been on test but i heard hcg makes it easier to get off & get your balls working again

 

[shngstaaaa107]

hgh wont. test will tho but stop at 18 or whenever ur done growing and should be fine on PCT after

Exogenous growth hormone inhibits growth hormone-releasing factor-induced growth hormone secretion in normal men - PMC

Previous studies from this laboratory and by others in rats, monkeys, and humans support the concept that growth hormone (GH) can regulate its own secretion through an autofeedback mechanism. With the availability of human growth hormone-releasing ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[darkromantica]

How can I promote forward growth?

beltpulling 3x a day for 5 min

 

[TheOsei]

Exogenous growth hormone inhibits growth hormone-releasing factor-induced growth hormone secretion in normal men - PMC

Previous studies from this laboratory and by others in rats, monkeys, and humans support the concept that growth hormone (GH) can regulate its own secretion through an autofeedback mechanism. With the availability of human growth hormone-releasing ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I'm saying it doesnt surpress long-term. It only surpresses like 24-48 hours

 

[TheOsei]

he should probably also be on hcg throughout his entire cycle. ive never been on test but i heard hcg makes it easier to get off & get your balls working again

yeah hcg 500iu twice a week, also split T dose into twice a week

 

[darkromantica]

hgh wont. test will tho but stop at 18 or whenever ur done growing and should be fine on PCT after

you have to do pct throughout u cant just blast test for 2 years with no pct

 

[shngstaaaa107]

I'm saying it doesnt surpress long-term. It only surpresses like 24-48 hours

It can be from a few days to weeks even (after last injection)

 

[insignia_]

What would you suggest?

you already seem pretty lean but aim for 12-14% bf. start taking 2.5mg oral minoxidil, it'll ascend your eyebrows, eyelashes, and hair, along with also applying topical minoxidil on your eyebrows to really thicken and grow them. dye your eyebrows a few shades darker to try and frame your eyes better. start doing some kind of skincare; i usually recommend 0.025% tretinoin (will just make everything about your skin better, this shit saves lives. needs a prescription from a derm) + azelaic acid (reduces redness). maybe try a new hairstyle if you dont have a massive forehead that youre trying to hide, but even if you do have one, there are probably other hairstyles you can try. this is all i can rlly think of rn

after you do all of this, then start considering surgeries like lefort 1, BSSO, and genioplasty. if you do everything here, you'll def ascend

 

[TheOsei]

It can be from a few days to weeks even (after last injection)

still neglible. you're injecting hgh daily anyways

 

[LiteralChud]

How can I promote forward growth?

well you are 16 i don't know i would say save up for surgeries.

 

[shngstaaaa107]

still neglible. you're injecting hgh daily anyways

yea just making sure this guy knows it still will shut down natural system as he asked

 

[HappyCake07]

you already seem pretty lean but aim for 12-14% bf. start taking 2.5mg oral minoxidil, it'll ascend your eyebrows, eyelashes, and hair, along with also applying topical minoxidil on your eyebrows to really thicken and grow them. dye your eyebrows a few shades darker to try and frame your eyes better. start doing some kind of skincare; i usually recommend 0.025% tretinoin (will just make everything about your skin better, this shit saves lives. needs a prescription from a derm) + azelaic acid (reduces redness). maybe try a new hairstyle if you dont have a massive forehead that youre trying to hide, but even if you do have one, there are probably other hairstyles you can try. this is all i can rlly think of rn

after you do all of this, then start considering surgeries like lefort 1, BSSO, and genioplasty. if you do everything here, you'll def ascend

Thank you bro, ill apply all the softmax and probably do hard maxes when im fully grown

 

[HappyCake07]

well you are 16 i don't know i would say save up for surgeries.

How much do they cost for my case?

 

[insignia_]

Thank you bro, ill apply all the softmax and probably do hard maxes when im fully grown

pls mark as solution

 

[insignia_]

How much do they cost for my case?

You can’t really predict it, only a surgeon can tell you

 

[LiteralChud]

How much do they cost for my case?

Depends on the surgery you are getting just do your research decide on a surgery then you will know about the price.

 

[HappyCake07]

pls mark as solution

What is that how do i do that

 

[guyxxi]

you already seem pretty lean but aim for 12-14% bf. start taking 2.5mg oral minoxidil, it'll ascend your eyebrows, eyelashes, and hair, along with also applying topical minoxidil on your eyebrows to really thicken and grow them. dye your eyebrows a few shades darker to try and frame your eyes better. start doing some kind of skincare; i usually recommend 0.025% tretinoin (will just make everything about your skin better, this shit saves lives. needs a prescription from a derm) + azelaic acid (reduces redness). maybe try a new hairstyle if you dont have a massive forehead that youre trying to hide, but even if you do have one, there are probably other hairstyles you can try. this is all i can rlly think of rn

after you do all of this, then start considering surgeries like lefort 1, BSSO, and genioplasty. if you do everything here, you'll def ascend

idk why u didn't recommend test hgh or a dht derivative. everything else good but if hes 16 this would be orime time to use those compounds. no i dont think just taking test and hgh will give u bone mass but he is in prime puberty and taking thiose compounds would improve your growth during puberty.

 

[insignia_]

idk why u didn't recommend test hgh or a dht derivative. everything else good but if hes 16 this would be orime time to use those compounds. no i dont think just taking test and hgh will give u bone mass but he is in prime puberty and taking thiose compounds would improve your growth during puberty.

I didn’t recommend it because I haven’t used any of these + i lowk just forgot to add them. I tagged him here to let him know

I do agree that test & hgh would be fantastic to use at his age, he just has to run hcg and an aromatase inhibitor or else it’s over for his balls

@HappyCake07

 

[noahwillascend]

Thanks for replying

Dk age but underdeveloped skull prob short idk if I was u I’d skip all the cope shit either start saving aggressively to afford some filler/ implants

 

[guyxxi]

I didn’t recommend it because I haven’t used any of these + i lowk just forgot to add them. I tagged him here to let him know

I do agree that test & hgh would be fantastic to use at his age, he just has to run hcg and an aromatase inhibitor or else it’s over for his balls

@HappyCake07

who cares for balls tbh ion want kids.

 

[insignia_]

who cares for balls tbh ion want kids.

Nigga he might want kids

 

[HappyCake07]

I didn’t recommend it because I haven’t used any of these + i lowk just forgot to add them. I tagged him here to let him know

I do agree that test & hgh would be fantastic to use at his age, he just has to run hcg and an aromatase inhibitor or else it’s over for his balls

@HappyCake07

Are the side effects worth it? Dont want to ruin my natural processes

 

[HappyCake07]

Nigga he might want kids

 

[HappyCake07]

I didn’t recommend it because I haven’t used any of these + i lowk just forgot to add them. I tagged him here to let him know

I do agree that test & hgh would be fantastic to use at his age, he just has to run hcg and an aromatase inhibitor or else it’s over for his balls

@HappyCake07

I would use test over hgh since its expensive and i cant sustain buying it

 

[insignia_]

Are the side effects worth it? Dont want to ruin my natural processes

In all honesty, taking care of your health, maxing out everything you can do to have the best possible sleep, working out, eating well, supplementing deficiencies, and maxing out your natural igf-1 and testosterone are better than possibly ruining your endocrine system if you know you’re probably going to do surgery anyway. Hgh would probably be good if you’re aware of any side effects there may be, but idk man I think you’re young and in the best time to be maximizing your natural testosterone

 

[insignia_]

I would use test over hgh since its expensive and i cant sustain buying it

Others might disagree with me, but personally I’d avoid pinning test if you’re so young and in the best time to maximizing your natural T