One should optimize hormones as well. Just low body-fat isn't enough. As I explained in another thread there was this 10/10 foid, who had basically same body-fat but just in span of 2 years become 6/10 because of facial fat deposition.
There is also the example of 17% body-fat DEXA scan chad mogging 6% body-fat facially fat-wise:
I think the general consensus is that if you're not already reasonably lean in your face at 15-20% body-fat, cutting won't do much for you. Often you see facial transformations from obesecels, but I rarely see someone drop from 15% to 7.5% and lose much facial fat. This is because facial fat is always the first to go.
Look at these marathon runners/anorexics, they have facial bloat even at low body-fat %:
Notice the last girl still has facial fat and tits while her body is basically lean as fuck.
Facial bloat even at low body-fat dexa verified:
I urge you to also look at this video:
Notice how low body-fat just doesn't really improve their face much and mostly makes it worse. Your face is actually highly correlated to your health and athletic ability. Also notice how over long-term the fruitarian face becomes fat and round-shaped with pronounced malars. Classical sign of metabolic disease.
a lot of guys have good jaw structure under their bodyfat but might opt for procedures to make their bones more pronounced (e.g. fillers bimax etc.)
One should optimize hormones as well. Just low body-fat isn't enough. As I explained in another thread there was this 10/10 foid, who had basically same body-fat but just in span of 2 years become 6/10 because of facial fat deposition.
There is also the example of 17% body-fat DEXA scan chad mogging 6% body-fat facially fat-wise:
I think the general consensus is that if you're not already reasonably lean in your face at 15-20% body-fat, cutting won't do much for you. Often you see facial transformations from obesecels, but I rarely see someone drop from 15% to 7.5% and lose much facial fat. This is because facial fat is always the first to go.
Look at these marathon runners/anorexics, they have facial bloat even at low body-fat %:
Notice the last girl still has facial fat and tits while her body is basically lean as fuck.
Facial bloat even at low body-fat dexa verified:
I urge you to also look at this video:
Notice how low body-fat just doesn't really improve their face much and mostly makes it worse. Your face is actually highly correlated to your health and athletic ability. Also notice how over long-term the fruitarian face becomes fat and round-shaped with pronounced malars. Classical sign of metabolic disease.
im sure it happens (albeit rarely). and hard for me to know peoples bodyfat without seeing photos of their bodies first
One should optimize hormones as well. Just low body-fat isn't enough. As I explained in another thread there was this 10/10 foid, who had basically same body-fat but just in span of 2 years become 6/10 because of facial fat deposition.
There is also the example of 17% body-fat DEXA scan chad mogging 6% body-fat facially fat-wise:
I think the general consensus is that if you're not already reasonably lean in your face at 15-20% body-fat, cutting won't do much for you. Often you see facial transformations from obesecels, but I rarely see someone drop from 15% to 7.5% and lose much facial fat. This is because facial fat is always the first to go.
Look at these marathon runners/anorexics, they have facial bloat even at low body-fat %:
Notice the last girl still has facial fat and tits while her body is basically lean as fuck.
Facial bloat even at low body-fat dexa verified:
I urge you to also look at this video:
Notice how low body-fat just doesn't really improve their face much and mostly makes it worse. Your face is actually highly correlated to your health and athletic ability. Also notice how over long-term the fruitarian face becomes fat and round-shaped with pronounced malars. Classical sign of metabolic disease.
