What causes UEE overtime ?

[ibetucnt]

What are the reasons behind UEE showing up more over time ?

looking at my pictures from teen to adult, i can notice the same problem

 

[Golden Glass]

Orbital fat loss. Have you by chance ever tried to use something like latisse for your lashes?

 

[Deleted member 3043]

latisse for your lashes

bad thing for it ?

 

[Golden Glass]

bad thing for it ?

I will make a thread on this. But yeah. Latisse destroys any hope at having a nice eye area, quite ironically.

 

[ibetucnt]

Orbital fat loss. Have you by chance ever tried to use something like latisse for your lashes?

no.
fat grafting is then the only way to fix it ?

 

[Golden Glass]

Either this or fillers. I will make a thread on this too.

 

[Bewusst]

I will make a thread on this. But yeah. Latisse destroys any hope at having a nice eye area, quite ironically.

Finally someone knowledgeable here. Have to agree that eyelash serums containing prostaglandin analogues (latisse is just one of them, there are others containing similar pa too) cause local fat loss - BUT - it's usually temporary and should resolve after discontinuation, at least partially.

 

[samm735]

I will make a thread on this. But yeah. Latisse destroys any hope at having a nice eye area, quite ironically.

interesting do elab, see foids use it on their lashes for growth all the time

Finally someone knowledgeable here. Have to agree that eyelash serums containing prostaglandin analogues (latisse is just one of them, there are others containing similar pa too) cause local fat loss - BUT - it's usually temporary and should resolve after discontinuation, at least partially.

this local fat loss would pertain only to the eye area if applied there or could it be utilised elsewhere on the face? out of curiosity

 

[Bewusst]

interesting do elab, see foids use it on their lashes for growth all the time

this local fat loss would pertain only to the eye area if applied there or could it be utilised elsewhere on the face? out of curiosity

https://www.reviewofophthalmology.com/article/pap-new-concerns-for-prostaglandin-use

Latisse contains the same prostaglandin analogue (bimatoprost) as eye drops used for glaucoma.

 

[Golden Glass]

Finally someone knowledgeable here. Have to agree that eyelash serums containing prostaglandin analogues (latisse is just one of them, there are others containing similar pa too) cause local fat loss - BUT - it's usually temporary and should resolve after discontinuation, at least partially.

I still haven’t recovered the slight fat loss I got from Latisse. Btw I just posted my thread on Latisse. Hope it’s good enough to sticky because I’d hate to see people still buying that crap.

 

[2peasinapod]

whats uee?

i think hormones and gh play a role

 

[nastynas]

loss of bone and fat due to aging in the orbital region

 

[Golden Glass]

whats uee?

i think hormones and gh play a role

upper eyelid exposure

 

[BigBoy]

upper eyelid exposure

do u know why i had no uee when i was a freshman in hs, but now as a senior have slight uee?

 

[Golden Glass]

do u know why i had no uee when i was a freshman in hs, but now as a senior have slight uee?

Well I mean maybe you lost a bit of fat there just naturally. If you think about it, you do store a ton more fat in your face when you are younger (hence, “baby face”). I don’t think there’s a single baby with upper eyelid exposure. So maybe you just still had some babyfat there when you were a freshman—plenty of guys don’t go through the big stages of puberty until high school, so losing some babyfat you still had there at that age is the most plausible explanation I can think of.

 

[Golden Glass]

I will make a thread on this tomorrow most likely; it is focused on how to achieve natural looking hooded eyes with fillers, however, I imagine the same principle applies to fat injections. Can I ask why you want fat injections and not fillers?

 

[ldar = cope]

I will make a thread on this. But yeah. Latisse destroys any hope at having a nice eye area, quite ironically.

what if I put it on certain areas for local fat loss ?

 

[Deleted member 3043]

I will make a thread on this tomorrow most likely; it is focused on how to achieve natural looking hooded eyes with fillers, however, I imagine the same principle applies to fat injections. Can I ask why you want fat injections and not fillers?

for the duration imo + fillers for the eyes are dangerous

 

[Deleted member 1100]

This area is the first one to lose fat volume with age, it's over for hoodedcels with no hunter eyes

 

[Deleted member 3043]

This area is the first one to lose fat volume with age, it's over for hoodedcels with no hunter eyes

you mean with not low set brow Ridge ?

 

[Deleted member 1100]

I just know that fat injections aren't temporary like fillers, if I'm wrong u can correct me

fat injection is permanent, 70-90% of the fat injected in the facial region becomes permanent, around 50% if injected on the body

you mean with not low set brow Ridge ?

Yes

 

[Deleted member 3043]

fat injection is permanent, 70-90% of the fat injected in the facial region becomes permanent, around 50% if injected on the body


Yes

is it good for cheekbones projection and having hollow cheeks ? or only implants

 

[Deleted member 1100]

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There's lens distortion here too, lens distortion can give you UEE

 

[Golden Glass]

for the duration imo + fillers for the eyes are dangerous

Depends where you inject, and isn’t it true that fat injections easily get reabsorbed?

 

[Deleted member 1100]

is it good for cheekbones projection and having hollow cheeks ? or only implants

basically the same results as fillers

Can u looksmin with fat grafting for uee?
And if so would they have to take the fat out again or would it be too late and its irreversible?

Unless you're going on a unexperienced doctor, I doubt that could happen

Depends where you inject, and isn’t it true that fat injections easily get reabsorbed?

Structural Fat Transfer doesn't get reasbsorbed (most part of it 70-90) because it's injected in tiny pieces so it gives space for new blood vessels to grow between the fat cells and nourish them

 

[Golden Glass]

Structural Fat Transfer doesn't get reasbsorbed (most part of it 70-90) because it's injected in tiny pieces so it gives space for new blood vessels to grow between the fat cells and nourish them

Hmm okay, I need to get more knowledgeable when it comes to fat transfer, filler, and filler materials, as well as different methods. Thanks

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There's lens distortion here too, lens distortion can give you UEE

Idk...it seems unlikely that Lens distortion on its own would produce that much upper eyelid exposure. This individual honestly looks like he’d have UEE regardless of Lena distortion, as he seems to have very little fat in that area.

I know different lenses can distort the face in general... maybe someone should create a thread comparing how different lenses affects UEE specifically. If it does have that drastic an affect, it should be very informative.

 

[Deleted member 1100]

Hmm okay, I need to get more knowledgeable when it comes to fat transfer, filler, and filler materials, as well as different methods. Thanks



Idk...it seems unlikely that Lens distortion on its own would produce that much upper eyelid exposure. This individual honestly looks like he’d have UEE regardless of Lena distortion, as he seems to have very little fat in that area.

I know different lenses can distort the face in general... maybe someone should create a thread comparing how different lenses affects UEE specifically. If it does have that drastic an affect, it should be very informative.

It makes the UEE way more drastic

It depends on where the camera center is too tbh

 

[Golden Glass]

It makes the UEE way more drastic

It depends on where the camera center is too tbh

Wow now there’s the quality content I joined this forum for

My mind is changed regarding lens distortion, but the fact remains you need to have UEE to begin with, in order for it to be exaggerated through lens distortion. You can’t have hooded eyes and then through lens distortion have your upper eyelid area look hollow. So whoever was in the picture I was commenting on, definitely has at least mild UEE. Thanks for the good reply

I’m also wondering, are all three photos in the OP the same man?

 

[BigBoy]

It makes the UEE way more drastic

It depends on where the camera center is too tbh

holy shit that makes so much more sense. i took a pic of my face from really close and had slight uee and was worried

 

[Deleted member 2205]

Either this or fillers. I will make a thread on this too.

Good poster tbh. Are fat grafts required for hooded eyes? I imagine pitosis surgery or blepheroplasty wouldn't be enough and you'd have to get both.

 

[FatJattMofo]

Good poster tbh. Are fat grafts required for hooded eyes? I imagine pitosis surgery or blepheroplasty wouldn't be enough and you'd have to get both.

i haven't seen anyone surgery in hooded eyes

 

[Golden Glass]

i haven't seen anyone surgery in hooded eyes

A bit confused as to what you mean, can you clarify?

 

[FatJattMofo]

A bit confused as to what you mean, can you clarify?

haven't seen anyone get hooded eyes by surgery. pretty sure anyone can't
get it by that

 

[Golden Glass]

Good poster tbh. Are fat grafts required for hooded eyes? I imagine pitosis surgery or blepheroplasty wouldn't be enough and you'd have to get both.

Thanks I appreciate it. For “hooded eyes” on their own you really just need enough fat right above your upper eyelid and under your brow. However, in my opinion, the best aesthetic version of hooded eyes is where you have this fat present, as well as a prominent brow ridge.

Brad Pitt is an example of a man with just the fat and little to no brow ridge.

Brian Shimansky is an example of a man with an incredibly prominent browridge, as well as some fat (ideally imo, he might have a bit more fat, also maybe even a less prominent brow, in some angles it almost looks weird, Neanderthal like).

Both of these characteristics for hooded eyes can be achieved surgically—of course the starting point is important as well; if you already have a decent browridge, as well as some fat in that area, then you can without a doubt end up with hooded eyes, so hooded they’d only show UEE if you are looking down at someone, but in any neutral position you’d have constant hooded eyes. The counter example to this would be someone with minimal to no fat at all in that region, as well as a very high-set browridge (an earlier thread showed that this seems common in some South Asians); it would be incredibly difficult to achieve truly hooded eyes for this person, although improvement can be made.

haven't seen anyone get hooded eyes by surgery. pretty sure anyone can't
get it by that

You’re wrong on this; I’ll make the thread on fillers for hooded eyes later.