What clavicle length considered as wide

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I have 41cm(16.1in) clavicles and im 174cm(5’8), 14 years old
Is it considered as wide and can i get some good frame from this
 
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I have 41cm(16.1in) clavicles and im 174cm(5’8), 14 years old
Is it considered as wide and can i get some good frame from this
If each individual clavicle bone is straight 20 cm only giants above 2m+ could mog u perhaps but u will look shorter
 
If each individual clavicle bone is straight 20 cm only giants above 2m+ could mog u perhaps but u will look shorter
I’ll measure the single bone later, 41cm is overall clavicle length, haven’t measured bidelt yet
 
I have 41cm(16.1in) clavicles and im 174cm(5’8), 14 years old
Is it considered as wide and can i get some good frame from this
No it isn't wide but they will grow give me solution
 
If each individual clavicle bone is straight 20 cm only giants above 2m+ could mog u perhaps but u will look shorter
What ?I have each clavicle 21.5 cm and the seems normal .
20 cm clavicle isn’t giant tier
 
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What ?I have each clavicle 21.5 cm and the seems normal .
20 cm clavicle isn’t giant tier
It is, u are measuring it wrong, talking about only the bony section in a straight line and not following the curvature, I look trained and people cant stop projecting it but I am a lazy bum skinny fat with 0 deltoid, only the base of the triangle counts

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Measurement of clavicle length by computed tomography


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In Western countries (Europe and North America), average adult male clavicle bone lengths typically range between 15.3 cm and 15.9 cm (153–159 mm), with standard deviations around 1–1.2 cm. A clavicle length of 20 cm (200 mm) is far above the population mean and remains in the top percentiles (>99th) even for western male samples.visielab.uantwerpen+1

Western Male Percentile Data​

  • English males: mean ~15.2–15.4 cm, SD ~1 cm; left clavicle slightly longer than right.kumj+1
  • French males: mean ~15.4–15.5 cm.kumj
  • American whites: mean ~15.3–15.4 cm.kumj
  • Belgian study: mean 15.73 cm, SD ~1.2 cm.lirias.kuleuven
  • Upper end of distribution (97th percentile): rarely exceeds 17.5–18.0 cm.visielab.uantwerpen+2

Estimated Percentile for 20 cm​

  • Since 20 cm is over 3 standard deviations above the mean in western populations, this length is almost never recorded in large anthropometric samples, indicating it is above the 99th percentile for western men.lirias.kuleuven+2

Reference Table​

Length (cm)Percentile (Western men)
<15.0Below 16thlirias.kuleuven
15.0–16.516th–84thlirias.kuleuven
16.5–17.584th–97thvisielab.uantwerpen+1
17.5–18.597th–99thvisielab.uantwerpen+1
>18.5Above 99thvisielab.uantwerpen+1
20.0Extreme outlier (>99.9th)visielab.uantwerpen+1


A 20 cm clavicle in a Western male is an extreme outlier, vastly exceeding normal anatomical variation, and would be considered far above the 99th percentile in all studied western populations.visielab.uantwerpen+2

  1. https://visielab.uantwerpen.be/sites/default/files/ca.22288.pdf
  2. https://lirias.kuleuven.be/retrieve/a5863408-6317-485f-a978-6964b8cfab77
  3. http://kumj.com.np/issue/35/193-197.pdf
  4. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4819086/
  5. https://jccpractice.com/article/mor...es-curvatures-and-clinical-implications-1541/
  6. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214854X16300048
  7. https://juniperpublishers.com/oroaj/OROAJ.MS.ID.556066.php
  8. https://multisite.eos.ncsu.edu/www-...16/06/Anthropometric-Detailed-Data-Tables.pdf
  9. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7479165/
  10. https://www.healthline.com/health/average-shoulder-width
 
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It is, u are measuring it wrong, talking about only the bony section in a straight line and not following the curvature, I look trained and people cant stop projecting it but I am a lazy bum skinny fat with 0 deltoid

View attachment 4289398

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In Western countries (Europe and North America), average adult male clavicle bone lengths typically range between 15.3 cm and 15.9 cm (153–159 mm), with standard deviations around 1–1.2 cm. A clavicle length of 20 cm (200 mm) is far above the population mean and remains in the top percentiles (>99th) even for western male samples.visielab.uantwerpen+1

Western Male Percentile Data​

  • English males: mean ~15.2–15.4 cm, SD ~1 cm; left clavicle slightly longer than right.kumj+1
  • French males: mean ~15.4–15.5 cm.kumj
  • American whites: mean ~15.3–15.4 cm.kumj
  • Belgian study: mean 15.73 cm, SD ~1.2 cm.lirias.kuleuven
  • Upper end of distribution (97th percentile): rarely exceeds 17.5–18.0 cm.visielab.uantwerpen+2

Estimated Percentile for 20 cm​

  • Since 20 cm is over 3 standard deviations above the mean in western populations, this length is almost never recorded in large anthropometric samples, indicating it is above the 99th percentile for western men.lirias.kuleuven+2

Reference Table​

Length (cm)Percentile (Western men)
<15.0Below 16thlirias.kuleuven
15.0–16.516th–84thlirias.kuleuven
16.5–17.584th–97thvisielab.uantwerpen+1
17.5–18.597th–99thvisielab.uantwerpen+1
>18.5Above 99thvisielab.uantwerpen+1
20.0Extreme outlier (>99.9th)visielab.uantwerpen+1


A 20 cm clavicle in a Western male is an extreme outlier, vastly exceeding normal anatomical variation, and would be considered far above the 99th percentile in all studied western populations.visielab.uantwerpen+2

  1. https://visielab.uantwerpen.be/sites/default/files/ca.22288.pdf
  2. https://lirias.kuleuven.be/retrieve/a5863408-6317-485f-a978-6964b8cfab77
  3. http://kumj.com.np/issue/35/193-197.pdf
  4. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4819086/
  5. https://jccpractice.com/article/mor...es-curvatures-and-clinical-implications-1541/
  6. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214854X16300048
  7. https://juniperpublishers.com/oroaj/OROAJ.MS.ID.556066.php
  8. https://multisite.eos.ncsu.edu/www-...16/06/Anthropometric-Detailed-Data-Tables.pdf
  9. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7479165/
  10. https://www.healthline.com/health/average-shoulder-width
good day to have 18.5 cm straight clavicles
 
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good day to have 18.5 cm straight clavicles
Indeed, many people have upward curvature, but u need to measure the base of the triangle with a ruler, so not following the bone but staying on the horizontal vector, not including the sternum ofc
 
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It is, u are measuring it wrong, talking about only the bony section in a straight line and not following the curvature, I look trained and people cant stop projecting it but I am a lazy bum skinny fat with 0 deltoid, only the base of the triangle counts

View attachment 4289398View attachment 4289419

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In Western countries (Europe and North America), average adult male clavicle bone lengths typically range between 15.3 cm and 15.9 cm (153–159 mm), with standard deviations around 1–1.2 cm. A clavicle length of 20 cm (200 mm) is far above the population mean and remains in the top percentiles (>99th) even for western male samples.visielab.uantwerpen+1

Western Male Percentile Data​

  • English males: mean ~15.2–15.4 cm, SD ~1 cm; left clavicle slightly longer than right.kumj+1
  • French males: mean ~15.4–15.5 cm.kumj
  • American whites: mean ~15.3–15.4 cm.kumj
  • Belgian study: mean 15.73 cm, SD ~1.2 cm.lirias.kuleuven
  • Upper end of distribution (97th percentile): rarely exceeds 17.5–18.0 cm.visielab.uantwerpen+2

Estimated Percentile for 20 cm​

  • Since 20 cm is over 3 standard deviations above the mean in western populations, this length is almost never recorded in large anthropometric samples, indicating it is above the 99th percentile for western men.lirias.kuleuven+2

Reference Table​

Length (cm)Percentile (Western men)
<15.0Below 16thlirias.kuleuven
15.0–16.516th–84thlirias.kuleuven
16.5–17.584th–97thvisielab.uantwerpen+1
17.5–18.597th–99thvisielab.uantwerpen+1
>18.5Above 99thvisielab.uantwerpen+1
20.0Extreme outlier (>99.9th)visielab.uantwerpen+1


A 20 cm clavicle in a Western male is an extreme outlier, vastly exceeding normal anatomical variation, and would be considered far above the 99th percentile in all studied western populations.visielab.uantwerpen+2

  1. https://visielab.uantwerpen.be/sites/default/files/ca.22288.pdf
  2. https://lirias.kuleuven.be/retrieve/a5863408-6317-485f-a978-6964b8cfab77
  3. http://kumj.com.np/issue/35/193-197.pdf
  4. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4819086/
  5. https://jccpractice.com/article/mor...es-curvatures-and-clinical-implications-1541/
  6. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214854X16300048
  7. https://juniperpublishers.com/oroaj/OROAJ.MS.ID.556066.php
  8. https://multisite.eos.ncsu.edu/www-...16/06/Anthropometric-Detailed-Data-Tables.pdf
  9. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7479165/
  10. https://www.healthline.com/health/average-shoulder-width
I have straight clavicle bro and it’s 21 cm .
 
Depends on height but as a rule of thumb maybe 22inch bidelt
 
20 inches is usually seen as wide ig
20 inches lean bideltoid is like my case with clavicles probably close to 20 cm for each

I have the same frame as the dude on the right untrained

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