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Leamsefmare

Leamsefmare

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I'm 17 and I look almost exactly like this, about to rope:
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Dark undereye circles from lack of bones, NW2, skinny fat, bug eyes, recessed chin, and almost no forward growth.
I know how to fix nw2 and skinny fat but the rest seems impossible.
Fixing my lower third is my priority, what surgeries fix recessed chin and forward growth? What surgeries fix bug eyes? And what's the chance that the surgeries actually work and where do I get them?
I'll post results of these surgeries when I get them if I don't rope first.
 
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Nigga you cant affoard a burger how you wanna affoard multiple surgeries
 
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Better post a pic of yourself bro
 
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pics of side profile so we can see how bad it is
 
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FYI I'm not an incel, just looksmaxing for self improvement purposes
 
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FYI I'm not an incel, just looksmaxing for self improvement purposes
I know exactly how you feel, people are forgetting this forum isn’t inceltears, it’s looksmaxxing. Attractive people looksmax as well (shocker)

When it comes to your face, you look extremely feminine, how old are you and have you fully undergone puberty?
 
idek dude all ik is its probs going to cost alot. Surgery is needed to atleast ascend to a high tier normie
Cost doesn't matter unless it's like 300k, I can make money. Ascend or rope.
I know exactly how you feel, people are forgetting this forum isn’t inceltears, it’s looksmaxxing. Attractive people looksmax as well (shocker)

When it comes to your face, you look extremely feminine, how old are you and have you fully undergone puberty?
Yeah. 17 but i don't think i have because i can't grow out my facial hair. My voice is hella deep though.
 
Cost doesn't matter unless it's like 300k, I can make money. Ascend or rope.

Yeah. 17 but i don't think i have because i can't grow out my facial hair. My voice is hella deep though.
That is nothing to do with facial hair, ill use myself as an example:
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Notice how subtle changes instantly make me more masculine, yet no facial hair was added, you have a baby face so assuming you went through puberty late and so did I (I’m 16-17 atm).

When it comes to your online business, assuming you’re making good money it’s impressive you’re able to make serious money at your age through entrepreneurship, it’s a good base start for looksmaxxing to have a promising career that could fund surgeries
 
That is nothing to do with facial hair, ill use myself as an example: View attachment 248573View attachment 248574

Notice how subtle changes instantly make me more masculine, yet no facial hair was added, you have a baby face so assuming you went through puberty late and so did I (I’m 16-17 atm).

When it comes to your online business, assuming you’re making good money it’s impressive you’re able to make serious money at your age through entrepreneurship, it’s a good base start for looksmaxxing to have a promising career that could fund surgeries
U look decently masculine already and yeah I see the difference w/o facial hair being involved
But what I meant by my post is, I don't think I've finished puberty yet because I can't grow a beard or mustache or whatever.
 
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U look decently masculine already and yeah I see the difference w/o facial hair being involved
But what I meant by my post is, I don't think I've finished puberty yet because I can't grow a beard or mustache or whatever.
In that case, continue your business and moneymax, that’s the best thing you can do long term. You’d be surprised what late puberty can do to your face, wishing all the best to your transformation. Wait till you finish puberty, if unsure ask a doctor and they’ll be able to measure how far into it you are through your testicle size. Worst case scenario you stay the same and just spend your money on surgery. Just please wait for puberty before trying to do any work
 
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In that case, continue your business and moneymax, that’s the best thing you can do long term. You’d be surprised what late puberty can do to your face, wishing all the best to your transformation. Wait till you finish puberty, if unsure ask a doctor and they’ll be able to measure how far into it you are through your testicle size. Worst case scenario you stay the same and just spend your money on surgery. Just please wait for puberty before trying to do any work
Aight thx bro. Do you think I should get HT and lower third work done asap though?
 
Aight thx bro. Do you think I should get HT and lower third work done asap though?
I can try morph for you? I’d recommend losing bodyfat ASAP tho, gymmaxxing is the easiest way to look more masculine
 
I can try morph for you? I’d recommend losing bodyfat ASAP tho, gymmaxxing is the easiest way to look more masculine
Yeah. And yeah gym is good, i'm starvemaxxing and gymmaxxing rn
 
Yeah. And yeah gym is good, i'm starvemaxxing and gymmaxxing rn
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There you go, did it extremely fast because I want to go sleep in a second, but as you can see your base is quite good, lift hard and get a haircut atm, that’s probably the most you could do in your current situation. Keep making money and you can easily look like my morph
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There you go, did it extremely fast because I want to go sleep in a second, but as you can see your base is quite good, lift hard and get a haircut atm, that’s probably the most you could do in your current situation. Keep making money and you can easily look like my morph

Added zygos to show you what you could look like low bodyfat
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There you go, did it extremely fast because I want to go sleep in a second, but as you can see your base is quite good, lift hard and get a haircut atm, that’s probably the most you could do in your current situation. Keep making money and you can easily look like my morph
Ah that's dope dude, thanks for the advice. My hair is like this rn cuz I'm trying to hide high hairline, but yeah I need to fix it. Gives me a jacob rosthchild skull.
 
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You look good on the morph pic imo. With gymmaxx you will slay. Whats your height
 
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Ah that's dope dude, thanks for the advice. My hair is like this rn cuz I'm trying to hide high hairline, but yeah I need to fix it. Gives me a jacob rosthchild skull.
Try getting a skinfade on the sides, life saver haircut. Just gymmax hard, wouldn’t recommend steroids until at least 1.5 years in, wait out puberty and then invest in surgery if needed, you’ve got chad potential
And also correct your posture, you seem to have a nerd neck in the picture you sent and judging by that I guess you have other posture issues as they are intertwined. There’s YouTube videos to identify and help every posture issue widely available
 
You look good on the morph pic imo. With gymmaxx you will slay. Whats your height
Hopefully lol. 5'11
Try getting a skinfade on the sides, life saver haircut. Just gymmax hard, wouldn’t recommend steroids until at least 1.5 years in, wait out puberty and then invest in surgery if needed, you’ve got chad potential
And also correct your posture, you seem to have a nerd neck in the picture you sent and judging by that I guess you have other posture issues as they are intertwined. There’s YouTube videos to identify and help every posture issue widely available
I'll look into a skinfade. You don't recommend steroids, but what about HGH?
And yeah my posture is shit lol I'll fix it
 
Hopefully lol. 5'11

I'll look into a skinfade. You don't recommend steroids, but what about HGH?
And yeah my posture is shit lol I'll fix it
It’s not that I don’t recommend em, under good conditions and a lot of research they’re really good, I’m planning to get on something soon, but without basic gym experience and knowledge steroids will just do you harm, this is ms after 1.5 years of natty lifting, if I can get from 40kg underweight faggot to this right now then so can you, after you get a decent natural physique and have knowledge and researched steroids and how to cycle then the world is yours really
 

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Fixing my lower third is my priority, what surgeries fix recessed chin and forward growth?
@17, you're already finished growing?? Otherwise maybe a Chad Chin and stuff is still developing.
Mewing = cope for older people. But for you at teens, it's also a good thing to do try.

With fillers, some get some results. In a way, mybe fillers can kinda make you see also, what you need/want with surgery.
 
same here

total prey pheno
 
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Cost doesn't matter unless it's like 300k, I can make money. Ascend or rope.

Yeah. 17 but i don't think i have because i can't grow out my facial hair. My voice is hella deep though.

I like your mentality
 
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what's your slay count
 
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I wouldn't have surgery done at all.
Why not? Too young?
@17, you're already finished growing?? Otherwise maybe a Chad Chin and stuff is still developing.
Mewing = cope for older people. But for you at teens, it's also a good thing to do try.

With fillers, some get some results. In a way, mybe fillers can kinda make you see also, what you need/want with surgery.
Yes I'm mewing rn. What age do most people finish growing? Surely if my chin is not developed by 18/19, I should consider surgery? And could I still get, for example, double jaw if I had fillers in my jaw, or would the fillers interfere?
what's your slay count
Nice sarcasm lol
 
Mse + fm + msdo

This will fix bug eyes^
 
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