what do u guys think about this cycle

[duke007]

test c 150-200 mg
anavar
ai to prevent growth plates closing
small dose of hgh maybe 2-4 iu daily (or cjc no dac i havent decided)
igf-1 lr3 40mcg daily

im 17, 6'3.5, hit puberty at late side of 15, growth plates still open. i don't even have facial hair just peach fuzz. looking to grow to 6'5 and get male dimorphism what do u think?

 

[Yahya]

500test

 

[aids]

Why use such a long ester? 150-200mg is also basically just a high dose of TRT. Even worse that it's cypionate because it's less testosterone than that of enanthate or propionate.
Mention anavar dosage.
Mention which AI. Ideally you use steroidal for a cycle, non-steroidal for delaying epiphyseal plate closure, when not on-cycle.
2-4 IU of generic seems low. I can't be bothered to look into this.
Can't comment on IGF-1 LR3, I've never looked into it.
Mention duration of cycle and if you're taking the compounds throughout the whole cycle or only for part.

 

[dnrwarrior11]

Ideally you use steroidal for a cycle, non-steroidal for delaying epiphyseal plate closure, when not on-cycle.

really? exemestane/aromasin is a common AI that is talked about on this forum and there are threads that recommend it over letrozole or anastrozole, despite being a steroidal aromatase inhibitor. thoughts?

 

[aids]

really? exemestane/aromasin is a common AI that is talked about on this forum and there are threads that recommend it over letrozole or anastrozole, despite being a steroidal aromatase inhibitor. thoughts?

Good for on-cycle.
Unideal for off-cycle.
You can very quickly bottom your E2 with a steroidal AI if you don't know what you're doing, and it takes longer to recover without having something to increase E2 on-hand, like testosterone (so you aromatise relatively more with the fewer active aromatase enzymes).
All literature points to the use of non-steroidal AI for height, and it's safer to use for a height protocol.
Either way, you just need to consistently lower E2, but it's harder to dose a steroidal AI since it's normally used as needed on-cycle, when your person presents with symptoms of high E2.
Either will work, non-steroidal is safer imho, I'm sure the difference in final height from using a non-steroidal versus steroidal AI, will be minimal.

 

[dnrwarrior11]

Good for on-cycle.
Unideal for off-cycle.
You can very quickly bottom your E2 with a steroidal AI if you don't know what you're doing, and it takes longer to recover without having something to increase E2 on-hand, like testosterone (so you aromatise relatively more with the fewer active aromatase enzymes).
All literature points to the use of non-steroidal AI for height, and it's safer to use for a height protocol.
Either way, you just need to consistently lower E2, but it's harder to dose a steroidal AI since it's normally used as needed on-cycle, when your person presents with symptoms of high E2.
Either will work, non-steroidal is safer imho, I'm sure the difference in final height from using a non-steroidal versus steroidal AI, will be minimal.

thanks for the response, i was about to take exemestane without any test base that would be increasing aromatization. probably wouldve crashed my e2 and would've been hard to get back since im limited with bloodwork atm

 

[aids]

thanks for the response, i was about to take exemestane without any test base that would be increasing aromatization. probably wouldve crashed my e2 and would've been hard to get back since im limited with bloodwork atm

It's not like you permanently inhibit aromatase and bottom your E2, but it takes relatively longer to return to baseline E2 from a steroidal AI relative to non-steroidal.
As long as you dose appropriately, you'll be fine. Definitely get bloodwork regardless.

 

[aids]

@dnrwarrior11
I appreciate that you DYOR and obviously care for forming a proper protocol, rather than dopamine farming.
PM me anytime if you need help.

 

[duke007]

Why use such a long ester? 150-200mg is also basically just a high dose of TRT. Even worse that it's cypionate because it's less testosterone than that of enanthate or propionate.
Mention anavar dosage.
Mention which AI. Ideally you use steroidal for a cycle, non-steroidal for delaying epiphyseal plate closure, when not on-cycle.
2-4 IU of generic seems low. I can't be bothered to look into this.
Can't comment on IGF-1 LR3, I've never looked into it.
Mention duration of cycle and if you're taking the compounds throughout the whole cycle or only for part.

should i take test e or test p then?
10-20mg var (im underweight don't wanna take ridiculous amounts)
arimidex
2-4iu of gh again because im slightly underweight for my height
do you have any recommendation on how long to run this for results? i was thinking 6-12 weeks

 

[aids]

should i take test e or test p then?
10-20mg var (im underweight don't wanna take ridiculous amounts)
arimidex
2-4iu of gh again because im slightly underweight for my height
do you have any recommendation on how long to run this for results? i was thinking 6-12 weeks

I use test p because it saturates quicker.
Do 20mg anavar.
Run a steroidal AI on-cycle, have Arimidex for off-cycle.
Being underweight shouldn’t influence your dose tbh. Run as much as you can within reason.
If you’re running test p, do 12 weeks.
If test e, do 16 weeks.
Run anavar for your final 8 weeks of your cycle so that you can 1, accurately identify side effects related to specifically testosterone and then later, anavar and 2, so you can minimise hepatotoxicity (although anavar is mild regardless).

 

[duke007]

I use test p because it saturates quicker.
Do 20mg anavar.
Run a steroidal AI on-cycle, have Arimidex for off-cycle.
Being underweight shouldn’t influence your dose tbh. Run as much as you can within reason.
If you’re running test p, do 12 weeks.
If test e, do 16 weeks.
Run anavar for your final 8 weeks of your cycle so that you can 1, accurately identify side effects related to specifically testosterone and then later, anavar and 2, so you can minimise hepatotoxicity (although anavar is mild regardless).

so 200mg test p would be good?
how much gh should i use instead of 4 iu?

 

[aids]

so 200mg test p would be good?

No, ffs.

how much gh should i use instead of 4 iu?

2-4 IU of generic seems low. I can't be bothered to look into this.

DYOR