What do you incels think of Ex PUAs?

[Deleted member 100787]

I, for example, was once a PUA

 

[lestoa]

PUA are retarded, its all about looks
PUAs doesnt teach you how to get women and doesnt focus on important things

 

[Deleted member 100787]

PUA are retarded, its all about looks
PUAs doesnt teach you how to get women and doesnt focus on important things

in fact until 2020 it worked well, it doesn't really teach much human development

 

[lestoa]

in fact until 2020 it worked well

wtf

 

[Deleted member 100787]

wtf

how old are you?15?

 

[Mr.Proper]

Got ruined by social media overexposure to legit and frauded chads, girls upping their standards.
I think it would make sense to learn how to act with girls specifically, but only after you already achieved some level of looks at least, trying to ntmaxx while you are sub5 may result in reinforcing negative experience unless you are dealing with low tier girls.

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

Im not an incel but us in this community think you guys are piece of shit scammers taking advantage of the desperation and sexual frustration of incels

 

[lestoa]

how old are you?15?

how high is your iq?80?

 

[Deleted member 100787]

how high is your iq?80?

110

 

[UglyGod360]

PUA are retarded, its all about looks
PUAs doesnt teach you how to get women and doesnt focus on important things

They’re not retarded

 

[lestoa]

110

11*

They’re not retarded

Yes they are, just like you are.

 

[Deleted member 100787]

11*

Yes they are, just like you are.

IQ 300 and never fucked anyone

 

[UglyGod360]

11*

Yes they are, just like you are.

Bro you’re rude af

 

[noodlelover]

Pickup isn't a magic bullet, you have to have to be better looking than most guys (usually tall visible abs muscles and location maxed) with a decent income (no signs of being poor).

But women's minimum standards, even for fat girls, rises every year.

 

[Deleted member 100787]

Bro you’re rude af

he is sensitive

 

[Deleted member 100787]

Pickup isn't a magic bullet, you have to have to be better looking than most guys (usually tall visible abs muscles and location maxed) with a decent income (no signs of being poor).

But women's minimum standards, even for fat girls, rises every year.

I agree

 

[noodlelover]

I agree

I always found it funny watching pickup guru's teaching students, when the guru is tall, muscular, and in shape, and the students are either pudgy or look like they don't lift, or wearing glasses, balding (but not shaved or wearing a hat), and other huge looks flaws.

I was part of a lair (pickup group) back in the day, and all of the successful guys were very lean and muscular. The one exception was a tall white rich guy that did "ok" with less attractive Asian tourists but even he was lean, and not too skinny.

The chubby guys had zero success. So pickup guys like "Owen cook" I can guarantee you don't get much results IRL, though they edit their videos to make it appear like he does.

It's also how I knew Ross Jeffries was not that good IRL, because you wouldn't be chubby if you were good with women. But I do think of him like a military strategists, that might not have battle practiced his ideas, his ideas are still a good starting point for a guy that is looks maxed and in the top 10% of looks for his area.

NLP, Charisma, Humor, Pacing and Leading, Frame Control, Leading, Push Pull, Kino Escalation, DHV stories, DHV routines authentic to you, etc. are all useful to get girls where you are the best looking guy she's met in the last few weeks at least. But a better looking guy comes along, and none of that shit means anything.

I can't tell you how much I wanted, and still do, to believe things like covert hypnosis can make a huge difference on girls. We always want easy answer to difficult problems. Pickup might be necessary for some guys, but not sufficient on it's own without full looksmaxing and decent money and status maxing most of the time to even land a single girlfriend or get a lay.

 

[Deleted member 100787]

I always found it funny watching pickup guru's teaching students, when the guru is tall, muscular, and in shape, and the students are either pudgy or look like they don't lift, or wearing glasses, balding (but not shaved or wearing a hat), and other huge looks flaws.

I was part of a lair (pickup group) back in the day, and all of the successful guys were very lean and muscular. The one exception was a tall white rich guy that did "ok" with less attractive Asian tourists but even he was lean, and not too skinny.

The chubby guys had zero success. So pickup guys like "Owen cook" I can guarantee you don't get much results IRL, though they edit their videos to make it appear like he does.

It's also how I knew Ross Jeffries was not that good IRL, because you wouldn't be chubby if you were good with women. But I do think of him like a military strategists, that might not have battle practiced his ideas, his ideas are still a good starting point for a guy that is looks maxed and in the top 10% of looks for his area.

NLP, Charisma, Humor, Pacing and Leading, Frame Control, Leading, Push Pull, Kino Escalation, DHV stories, DHV routines authentic to you, etc. are all useful to get girls where you are the best looking guy she's met in the last few weeks at least. But a better looking guy comes along, and none of that shit means anything.

I can't tell you how much I wanted, and still do, to believe things like covert hypnosis can make a huge difference on girls. We always want easy answer to difficult problems. Pickup might be necessary for some guys, but not sufficient on it's own without full looksmaxing and decent money and status maxing most of the time to even land a single girlfriend or get a lay.

I agree, but I'm very athletic

 

[ectomorpher]

how old are you?15?

Most people up here are 15 you shouldn't be surprised lol

 

[dravidchad]

I, for example, was once a PUA

pua is cringe asl bro, try this in chatelet les halles in France

 

[RealNinja]

Most people here would benefit from reading some PUA stuff… not about cold approaching in public like an Indian. But PUA content is valuable for learning how to flirt with girls, how to act around them, what to do on dates, etcetera. Of course you also need to look good… that is when you can actually apply what you learn. I’ve learned a lot of good stuff from r/seduction. I grew up fat and ugly, never got socialized properly or learned how to talk to girls. Had a major glow up and still didn’t know how to talk to girls. A lot of users here have similar stories

 

[Deleted member 100787]

Most people up here are 15 you shouldn't be surprised lol

exactly, I don't even know why someone aged 15 should consider themselves incel

 

[Deleted member 100787]

Most people here would benefit from reading some PUA stuff… not about cold approaching in public like an Indian. But PUA content is valuable for learning how to flirt with girls, how to act around them, what to do on dates, etcetera. Of course you also need to look good… that is when you can actually apply what you learn. I’ve learned a lot of good stuff from r/seduction. I grew up fat and ugly, never got socialized properly or learned how to talk to girls. Had a major glow up and still didn’t know how to talk to girls. A lot of users here have similar stories

Dude, I think that an MTN would actually get some benefit, but I don't understand why a sub5 would think that a Stacy would be attracted to him?

 

[Deleted member 100787]

pua is cringe asl bro, try this in chatelet les halles in France

I don't live in Europe