What do you think the peak natty limit physique is?

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Taking into account they are training and eating right?

I think it would be like the ken doll shirtless :feelshah:

I may be wrong but I think zyzz is impossible without gear
 
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Istg it's been 2 years and this nigga is still posting threads under looksmaxxing subforum, holy fuck dude the dedication is crazy I hope ur Chad. Remember back in the day when u rated me LTN?
 
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There's no limit on what can be done naturally. The odds are out of 8 billion people on earth a couple people have the genetics to be open class bodybuilder level huge naturally, However the amount of people that can achieve this level is incredibly minute.
 
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Istg it's been 2 years and this nigga is still posting threads under looksmaxxing subforum, holy fuck dude the dedication is crazy I hope ur Chad. Remember back in the day when u rated me LTN?
No who r u bruh

How you keep tabs on this stuff
 
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There's no limit on what can be done naturally. The odds are out of 8 billion people on earth a couple people have the genetics to be open class bodybuilder level huge naturally, However the amount of people that can achieve this level is incredibly minute.
I disagree. I think comic book-like superhero physiques or physiques like peak arnold are not possible naturally with just training and diet.
 
zyzz is possible without gear

he wasnt actually that big despite blasting a fuck ton of gear

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zyzz is nothing too impressive ngl. i guess after 5-6 years of training you can look like him
 
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Tyler Von Lohen has my dream natty physique
His insertions are perfect
 
+ this nigga was tanning like crazy and wouldn’t even be surprised if he used fake tan. and as you know tan makes you twice as lean
 
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Taking into account they are training and eating right?

I think it would be like the ken doll shirtless :feelshah:

I may be wrong but I think zyzz is impossible without gear
jeff seid in his latest comp
 
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Prime Mark Wahlberg but he's kind of short tbh, probably NFL physiques may be the best looking natty ones (i know they roid but not for hypertrophy)
 
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This is ideal natty physique but he has 99 percentile insertions and proportions

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This is ideal natty physique but he has 99 percentile insertions and proportions

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mf is showing me top 0.1% genetical beast.

Retard we are talking about op in this shit. You don’t have great genetics and neither does op.

You could be top 0.1% sprinters of all time after only 6 months of training. It would take 10+ years and hard dedication for the average joe to get close to there.
 
mf is showing me top 0.1% genetical beast.

Retard we are talking about op in this shit. You don’t have great genetics and neither does op.

You could be top 0.1% sprinters of all time after only 6 months of training. It would take 10+ years and hard dedication for the average joe to get close to there.
Maybe him yeah I was just showing peak natty mogger but it doesn’t take 99.9 percentile genetics to look like Zyzz within 2 years unless u are giant subhuman Lanklet with FAS and kleinfelters
He looks natty as fuk cuz he jumped on gear after like a month of lifting
 
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Maybe him yeah I was just showing peak natty mogger but it doesn’t take 99.9 percentile genetics to look like Zyzz within 2 years unless u are giant subhuman Lanklet with FAS and kleinfelters
He looks natty as fuk cuz he jumped on gear after like a month of lifting
yea probably 2-3 yrs i guess. never liked zyzz. i am just guessing op is a spineless creature who will quit the gym after 1 yr or sth.

that being said zyzz physique is still difficult to achive since it does require dedication. but if you do go to the gym constantly, have a good base, and be on a strict diet, you would be able to achive it in under under 2 yrs even.

i am just guessing op is going to be the average manlet in the gym. so it would realistically take him way more
 
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yea probably 2-3 yrs i guess. never liked zyzz. i am just guessing op is a spineless creature who will quit the gym after 1 yr or sth.

that being said zyzz physique is still difficult to achive since it does require dedication. but if you do go to the gym constantly, have a good base, and be on a strict diet, you would be able to achive it in under under 2 yrs even.

i am just guessing op is going to be the average manlet in the gym. so it would realistically take him way more
Oh understood
Ur right OP is a lazy faggot so might take a decade
 
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it depends on your frame and insertions which are all that matter at the end of the day
 
Bro science:

It varies wildly based on your starting point.

I think because there is a limit on muscle hypertrophy and muscle hyperplasia is for the most part impossible.

Number of muscle fibres is determined prenatally so basically some guys will have far better potential than others and there’s nothing you can do about it. Steroids or not - steroids only increase hypertrophy but they can’t induce hyperplasia.

This is my excuse for barely benching 100kg after being on roids for six years - when I started lifting completely untrained I only could bench 15kg 1RM so I’ve increased by about 6.5x.

Would be interested to know if anyone’s managed more than a 6.5x from their untrained starting point.
 
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