What does a ltn actually look like? Compare me to what I thought a ltn originally looked like:

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I was told my side profile looks ltn..
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If this is true, what does that make these examples?
Because I easily mog their side profiles..
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Ur not ltn
 
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Your side profile looks midtier.
 
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The other examples look like mid - high 3/10 or low LTN.
 
Your side profile looks midtier.
Perhaps so but those examples are not at my level at all. I mog their side profile. No way my side is comparable to theirs. They gotta be ltn’s.
 
So how am I a ltn?! My side is way better than theirs overall.
I think you're midtier not LTN. You hav better proportions and better skinquality than those other examples. Better features too.
 
I think you're midtier not LTN. You hav better proportions and better skinquality than those other examples. Better features too.
Oh I thought you rated theirs mid
 
I think you're midtier not LTN. You hav better proportions and better skinquality than those other examples. Better features too.
What could raise my side to htn level or at least high-mtn? I was thinking a rhinoplasty and some chin exercises to improve the size by a little. Maybe get some fillers around my cheek/eye area. My skin is okay but if I got glass skin it would improve my face overall and compensate for some of the flaws. What do you think?
 
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What could raise my side to htn level or at least high-mtn? I was thinking a rhinoplasty and some chin exercises to improve the size by a little. Maybe get some fillers around my cheek/eye area. My skin is okay but if I got glass skin it would improve my face overall and compensate for some of the flaws. What do you think?
Chin exercises are cope and wont add bone mass. You need genioplasty to improve chin projection. Rhinoplasty is not neccesary if you have a good jaw area and glass skin is not ideal for men, you just have to look healthy so get rid of acne/blemishes and improve colouring.
 
Ur side profile ltn for sure the other guy is subhuman. Youre a rat the other guy is sub-rat.
 
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I thought you said mine was was midtier?
Yes, but I also said you're "atleast mid LTN" since I cant know for sure because you suck at taking pictures.
 
Ur side profile ltn for sure the other guy is subhuman. Youre a rat the other guy is sub-rat.
Your ratings are unrealistic and too harsh, assuming you trying to be funny on here or just troll. Those two guys are NOT subhuman level, they are for sure ltn. And I can comfortably say that my side profile is mtn-level at least..

THIS is true subhuman level, deformities and such..
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God rest their soul or I hope them best in the next life.
 
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Yes, but I also said you're "atleast mid LTN" since I cant know for sure because you suck at taking pictures.
How do I suck at taking pictures? They’re just regular side selfies of me..
 
How do I suck at taking pictures? They’re just regular side selfies of me..
You're frauding with a hat in second picture and the first picture taken from a bad angle. But you're still recessed and downgrown so look at the advice I gave to you.
 
You're frauding with a hat in second picture and the first picture taken from a bad angle. But you're still recessed and downgrown so look at the advice I gave to you.
Okay here’s some more. I’ll show my best ones and worst ones without a hat and a good angle..

The good ones:
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The bad ones:
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Okay here’s some more. I’ll show my best ones and worst ones without a hat and a good angle..

The good ones:
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The bad ones:
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You are LTN. Still mog the subhumans you sent because they are below LTN. You'd benefit from more forward growth, so get jaw surgery and your breathing will most likely improve as well along with appearance.
 
Your ratings are unrealistic and too harsh, assuming you trying to be funny on here or just troll. Those two guys are NOT subhuman level, they are for sure ltn. And I can comfortably say that my side profile is mtn-level at least..

THIS is true subhuman level, deformities and such..
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God rest their soul or I hope them best in the next life.
These are examples of 1-2/10, the pictures you sent that was not you was 3/10. Congratulations you are LTN nigga
 
. Congratulations you are LTN nigga
But that is only my side profile. My front view is much better..
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Meeks has a similar issue. His side profile is just shit.
 
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You are LTN. Still mog the subhumans you sent because they are below LTN. You'd benefit from more forward growth, so get jaw surgery and your breathing will most likely improve as well along with appearance.
Jaw surgery is 1. too expensive and 2. way too high risk. I don’t even think my jawline is bad, only in some lighting. My chin is the only issue.. and my nose. Is there anything else I could do? I figured if I get a rhinoplasty, clear some of my blemishes and fraud with a short-length goatee my side could be mtn at least..
 
These are examples of 1-2/10, the pictures you sent that was not you was 3/10. Congratulations you are LTN nigga
If my first two examples who were not me were 3/10’s, what does that make my side profile, a 4.5?
 
Jaw surgery is 1. too expensive and 2. way too high risk. I don’t even think my jawline is bad, only in some lighting. My chin is the only issue.. and my nose. Is there anything else I could do? I figured if I get a rhinoplasty, clear some of my blemishes and fraud with a short-length goatee my side could be mtn at least..
chin is literally part of mandible (its part of jawline) just get chin implants if you dont wanna do jaw surgery.
 
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If my first two examples who were not me were 3/10’s, what does that make my side profile, a 4.5?
I already said why. Youve got more bone mass then them for example.
 
which ones are you?
 
chin is literally part of mandible (its part of jawline) just get chin implants if you dont wanna do jaw surgery.
The only issue is that my chin is actually too prominent when I smile, so I’m afraid if I do get an implant that I will look like the crimson chin or like the green goblin..
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That’s why I figured if I just get a rhinoplasty, cleared my blemishes and fraud with a short-length goatee I should have a high mtn side profile at least..
 
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I already said why. Youve got more bone mass then them for example.
I know. That’s why I’m asking, if they are 3/10’s then what does that make mine, like a 4.5? What is the ltn range on a number scale anyway? I’m curious.
 
The only issue is that my chin is actually too prominent when I smile, so I’m afraid if I do get an implant that I will look like the crimson chin or like the green goblin..
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Thats not gonna happen. But If you do rhinoplasty alongside chin implants it will make you look less like a goblin or whatever. Your nose is a bit of a flaw tbh but it doesnt matter that much if you have good jaw area. Btw if you do bimax your maxilla will probably be advanced too and your midface (nose included) will look more proportionate with jaw than just doing chin implants would.
 
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I know. That’s why I’m asking, if they are 3/10’s then what does that make mine, like a 4.5? What is the ltn range on a number scale anyway? I’m curious.
LTN means 4/10, if you are mid tier LTN youd be around 4,5/10
 
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I already said why. Youve got more bone mass then them for example.
So based on these two side profiles alone, are they still ltn? They gotta be mtn at least..
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these have the most accurate lighting and angles of how’s you’d see me in real life most likely.
 
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So I based on these two side profiles alone, are they still ltn? They gotta be mtn at least..
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these have the most accurate lighting and angles of how’s you’d see me in real life most likely.
So my side is high ltn while those other two guys are low ltn?
Those other guys are 3/10 not 4/10. And idk for sure, pics are still slightly frauded but you are 4 -5 NOT 5 - 6 and thats all you have to know also stop being a copecel with "jawsurgery too expensive muh to risky" because you get zero iois from women.
 
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. And idk for sure, pics are still slightly frauded but you are 4 -5 NOT 5 - 6 and thats all you have to know also stop being a copecel with "jawsurgery too expensive muh to risky" because you get zero iois from women.
Those are not fruaded. Just candid side pics in normal lighting. I’ll show you one I took a second ago..


And zero girls? I have at least 10 bodies. It’s not a lot, but still more than the average guy nowadays.
 
Those are not fruaded. Just candid side pics in normal lighting. I’ll show you one I took a second ago..


And zero girls? I have at least 10 bodies. It’s not a lot, but still more than the average guy nowadays.
first pic blurry second pic hat and i dont care about your bodies nga stop coping now it doesnt matter what pic you send chad still mogs you
 
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first pic blurry second pic hat and i dont care about your bodies nga stop coping now it doesnt matter what pic you send chad still mogs you
In clarity it would be even better. I’m not coping I just don’t believe I am as ugly as ltn there’s no fucking way. I have a visible ramus and sharp jawline overall..
 
first pic blurry second pic hat and i dont care about your bodies nga stop coping now it doesnt matter what pic you send chad still mogs you
I don’t think I’m a chad but I’m higher than ltn. My front is htn and side is mtn. You just changed your mind over two bad photos with poor lighting..
 
Thats not gonna happen. But If you do rhinoplasty alongside chin implants it will make you look less like a goblin or whatever. Your nose is a bit of a flaw tbh but it doesnt matter that much if you have good jaw area. Btw if you do bimax your maxilla will probably be advanced too and your midface (nose included) will look more proportionate with jaw than just doing chin implants would.
What about chin implant and cheekbone fillers? Plus rhinoplasty of course.
 
What about chin implant and cheekbone fillers? Plus rhinoplasty of course.
Fillers are bad because they're not permanent. Id still recommen jaw surgery rather than chin implants, but i dont give a shit what you do so no need to argue.
 
Fillers are bad because they're not permanent. Id still recommen jaw surgery rather than chin implants, but i dont give a shit what you do so no need to argue.
Is jaw surgery safe or no.
 
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Depends i guess, look it up
Rebabroom says it’s high risk. Like I said you can call it cope if you want but I don’t think my side is ltn.. I think it’s mtn and would do just fine with minor changes. You changed your mind over a couple bad photos with poor lighting, nor even accurate. I agree with your original observation though..
 

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