what is an ideal mouth width

mine is around 55 mm rn
 
why would absolute measures matter
 
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one and a half times your nose width, but how large it's perceived as depends on a lot of factors including the size of your lips and the upper to lower distribution, the shape also matters, and the tilt of the corners.

also chad looks fine with both a tiny and a huge mouth.
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Mine is at least 65 mm cuz of my wide face it doesn't look extremely wide
 
one and a half times your nose width, but how large it's perceived as depends on a lot of factors including the size of your lips and the upper to lower distribution, the shape also matters, and the tilt of the corners.

also chad looks fine with both a tiny and a huge mouth.
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Looks better xd
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one and a half times your nose width, but how large it's perceived as depends on a lot of factors including the size of your lips and the upper to lower distribution, the shape also matters, and the tilt of the corners.

also chad looks fine with both a tiny and a huge mouth.
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Looks fine with a tiny mouth but it’s still a flaw.
 
that wasn't the argument I was making, he looks more balanced with a smaller mouth but it doesn't really ascend or descent anyone significantly.

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I do see a very big difference. His lips are still too big in the after, with thinner ones he would look like a universally handsome man and not like the homosexual alien he looks like with that mouth. Same with that Alborzian dude who ttcels love
 
I do see a very big difference. His lips are still too big in the after, with thinner ones he would look like a universally handsome man and not like the homosexual alien he looks like with that mouth. Same with that Alborzian dude who ttcels love
the after is the before, those are his real lips.

I left the editing cursor in the edited picture on purpose, or do you mean that they're still too big even after being edited?
 
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the after is the before, those are his real lips.

I left the editing cursor in the edited picture on purpose.
That's what I meant, usually the afters go in the right as this one. His lips are still probably too big. Good morph
 
That's what I meant, usually the afters go in the right as this one. His lips are still probably too big. Good morph
I feel like the mouth isn't really an attractive feature in men and the ideal mouth is whatever distracts the least from the rest of the face.

at best the mouth, even if it meets all standards, is neutral.
 
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I feel like the mouth isn't really an attractive feature in men and the ideal mouth is whatever distracts the least from the rest of the face.

at best the mouth, even if it meets all standards, is neutral.
I would say it can be a halo if the mouth is proportional, defined and with well supported competent lips. What I don't understand is the obsession with big lips some have.
 
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I would say it can be a halo if the mouth is proportional, defined and with well supported competent lips. What I don't understand is the obsession with big lips some have.
wide, thick lips mog
 
I would say it can be a halo if the mouth is proportional, defined and with well supported competent lips. What I don't understand is the obsession with big lips some have.
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btw do u think im forwardly grown enough or i do need lf1/paranasal implants/rhino?
 
I would say it can be a halo if the mouth is proportional, defined and with well supported competent lips. What I don't understand is the obsession with big lips some have.
or should kms
 
Between 1.48 and 1.58 of your nose width.
40% of your bigonial width.
Lower lip around 1.5 times thicker than your upper lip, both fairly full.
 
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Between 1.48 and 1.58 of your nose width.
40% of your bigonial width.
Lower lip around 1.5 times thicker than your upper lip, both fairly full.
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Between 1.48 and 1.58 of your nose width.
40% of your bigonial width.
Lower lip around 1.5 times thicker than your upper lip, both fairly full.
is it good that my lips are so feminine
 
is it good that my lips are so feminine
I also instantly thought "those must be a womans' lips". They're arguably not PSL-ideal, but might have IRL female gaze appeal.
 
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I also instantly thought "those must be a womans' lips". They're arguably not PSL-ideal, but might have IRL female gaze appeal.
i have a nigger name (Jamal) and lips, so brutal
 
I would say it can be a halo if the mouth is proportional, defined and with well supported competent lips. What I don't understand is the obsession with big lips some have.
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Lips are very important
 
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wide, thick lips mog
I disagree with thick, neutral between thin and thick looks the best at least in men.
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btw do u think im forwardly grown enough or i do need lf1/paranasal implants/rhino?
maybe I would consider surgery, it's not close to a bad case but you can improve. ask surgery doubts to other people because I prefer to not talk about something I'm not sure about
i have a nigger name (Jamal) and lips, so brutal
Do you know what? Your lips are most likely that size not because of only genes but mainly because you seem to have been a chronically predominantly mouthbreather since childhood giving you undefined incompetent big lips
 
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