What is life

[Gentleman Unknown]

Thats the hard thing about this. Somrthing im realising is the truest blessing we have as humans is freedom. Life is truly in our hands, i have the power to rob a bank if i wanted. And because of that idea, it also means that there is no necessary ideal way of life, we have the freedom to decide that for ourselves, but then the question becomes, what if you dont know what you want in life? If you want the comfort and quick pleasure or the struggle and stress?

 

[SnowyWeather]

 

[Aiwass]

what if you dont know what you want in life?

u keep living and experiencing until u do know

 

[Gentleman Unknown]

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I think a smart person wouldnt be so conflicted like i am

 

[imontheloose]

Life is rubbish. Not one positive part about it. You're an animal out its habitat chasing happiness, a conditional response to stimulus that your monkey brain uses to encourage what it believes to be useful for survival. Same goes for all emotions.

 

[EvilSatanArseRapist]

the truest blessing we have as humans is freedom

Bro what fucking freedom do we get?
Fucking retarded ass pseudodeep thread

 

[Gentleman Unknown]

u keep living and experiencing until u do know

I agree but im gonna make a change, instead ill go out and actively experience things. seek them instead of passively waiting for them to come to me.

 

[Aiwass]

I agree but im gonna make a change, instead ill go out and actively experience things. seek them instead of passively waiting for them to come to me.

based

 

[Gentleman Unknown]

Bro what fucking freedom do we get?
Fucking retarded ass pseudodeep thread

You dont understand freedom? For example i dont know your circumstances right now but. I know you have the freedom to either reply to this comment or not, you have the freedom to go on a run outside right now or not

 

[Gentleman Unknown]

Life is rubbish. Not one positive part about it. You're an animal out its habitat chasing happiness, a conditional response to stimulus that your monkey brain uses to encourage what it believes to be useful for survival. Same goes for all emotions.

Who says im chasing happiness? If anything before i was, with short dopamine hits, right now im trying to think logically, what do i want from life? Maybe not seeking happiness but fufillment. Saying life is rubbish and theres not one positive part about it just isnt true, sounds like youve had it rough but that doesnt necessarily mean theres no positive aspects to life.

 

[EvilSatanArseRapist]

You dont understand freedom? For example i dont know your circumstances right now but. I know you have the freedom to either reply to this comment or not, you have the freedom to go on a run outside right now or not

Free will is an illusion bro.
It's all a biochemical reaction in your body.
You don't have a soul.
You don't have a will.
It's really bizzare.
We are just machines in the end.

Brain monitoring has shown that the impulse to every so called decision happens quite a bit of time earlier completely subconciously.

We aren't free, but we like to tell us that we are. It's a nice thought.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Thats the hard thing about this. Somrthing im realising is the truest blessing we have as humans is freedom. Life is truly in our hands, i have the power to rob a bank if i wanted. And because of that idea, it also means that there is no necessary ideal way of life, we have the freedom to decide that for ourselves, but then the question becomes, what if you dont know what you want in life? If you want the comfort and quick pleasure or the struggle and stress?

If you don't know what you want in life then that means you're highly suggestible and mentally retarded.

 

[cristaking8]

Thats the hard thing about this. Somrthing im realising is the truest blessing we have as humans is freedom. Life is truly in our hands, i have the power to rob a bank if i wanted. And because of that idea, it also means that there is no necessary ideal way of life, we have the freedom to decide that for ourselves, but then the question becomes, what if you dont know what you want in life? If you want the comfort and quick pleasure or the struggle and stress?

Yea exactly

 

[Gentleman Unknown]

Free will is an illusion bro.
It's all a biochemical reaction in your body.
You don't have a soul.
You don't have a will.
It's really bizzare.
We are just machines in the end.

Brain monitoring has shown that the impulse to every so called decision happens quite a bit of time earlier completely subconciously.

We aren't free, but we like to tell us that we are. It's a nice thought.

The funny thing is, you’re using your illusion of free will to try and convince me yours doesn't exist. If we’re just machines, this conversation is just two programs running. I prefer the program that actually tries to do something with its existence.

 

[imontheloose]

Who says im chasing happiness? If anything before i was, with short dopamine hits, right now im trying to think logically, what do i want from life? Maybe not seeking happiness but fufillment. Saying life is rubbish and theres not one positive part about it just isnt true, sounds like youve had it rough but that doesnt necessarily mean theres no positive aspects to life.

What's positive about it? There's nothing positive nor negative about life. Everything is fundamentally neutral and whatever your brain decides to emotively chase doesn't change that. Fulfilment is the same cope as happiness, you just slap a new word to it. Does being miserable and suffering endlessly fulfil you? Of course not. Don't be so ridiculous.

The only perfect moment of life is death, when you get to reach eternal peace, no sentient suffering. Everything is meaningless; your brain still works off dopamine hits entirely. You aren't a free being.

 

[Gentleman Unknown]

If you don't know what you want in life then that means you're highly suggestible and mentally retarded.

Actually, the most suggestible people are the ones who pick a path just because they were told to. Admitting you don't know what you want yet shows you're actually thinking for yourself instead of just following a script.

 

[imontheloose]

Free will is an illusion bro.
It's all a biochemical reaction in your body.
You don't have a soul.
You don't have a will.
It's really bizzare.
We are just machines in the end.

Brain monitoring has shown that the impulse to every so called decision happens quite a bit of time earlier completely subconciously.

We aren't free, but we like to tell us that we are. It's a nice thought.

Not bizarre at all. Free will is not considered real by anyone with a functioning brain. OP thinks absurdism is anything but being terrified of the truth.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Actually, the most suggestible people are the ones who pick a path just because they were told to. Admitting you don't know what you want yet shows you're actually thinking for yourself instead of just following a script.

Who says that just because you don't follow a script you don't know what you want?

 

[Gentleman Unknown]

What's positive about it? There's nothing positive nor negative about life. Everything is fundamentally neutral and whatever your brain decides to emotively chase doesn't change that. Fulfilment is the same cope as happiness, you just slap a new word to it. Does being miserable and suffering endlessly fulfil you? Of course not. Don't be so ridiculous.

The only perfect moment of life is death, when you get to reach eternal peace, no sentient suffering. Everything is meaningless; your brain still works off dopamine hits entirely. You aren't a free being.

You say life is 'fundamentally neutral’, but then you call it 'rubbish' and call death 'perfect.' You’re just as guilty of using emotive labels as everyone else, you’ve just chosen the most depressing ones. If everything is truly neutral, then my ‘cope’ is just as valid as your ‘misery’.

 

[EvilSatanArseRapist]

The funny thing is, you’re using your illusion of free will to try and convince me yours doesn't exist. If we’re just machines, this conversation is just two programs running. I prefer the program that actually tries to do something with its existence.

Yeah. Exaxtly.
We are machines and are built a certain way due to our genes and programmed by all of our experiences.
I'm also using my illusion of freewill to tell you to rep me

 

[EvilSatanArseRapist]

You are grey and it's alr, but repping people is basic org ettiquete

 

[Gentleman Unknown]

Not bizarre at all. Free will is not considered real by anyone with a functioning brain. OP thinks absurdism is anything but being terrified of the truth.

If we’re just machines with no will, then your insults and truths are just pre programmed noise you didn't choose to make. Why should I listen to a biological machine that admits it has no control over its own thoughts?

Whether freedom is a fact or a biochemical illusion, we still have to live within it. Id rather use that illusion to try and build a life I actually want than sit around acting like a victim of my own neurons. One of us is trying to figure out how to live and the other is just making excuses for why he cant

 

[Gentleman Unknown]

Who says that just because you don't follow a script you don't know what you want?

I didnt say everyone off script is lost. I said that being honest enough to admit you're still searching is a sign of a functioning brain, whereas the most suggestible people are the ones who just swallow whatever path society hands them without questioning it. My point is that uncertainty isn't a lack of intelligence it's the first step to actually finding a choice that's yours.

 

[imontheloose]

You say life is 'fundamentally neutral’, but then you call it 'rubbish' and call death 'perfect.' You’re just as guilty of using emotive labels as everyone else, you’ve just chosen the most depressing ones. If everything is truly neutral, then my ‘cope’ is just as valid as your ‘misery’.

Yes. Life is objectively neutral; there is no good nor bad. I emotively call life rubbish and death perfect, yet it still has no meaning which I accept. Do you think I have conversations by not using adjectives anymore since they're all realistically neutral? This is like talking to a deluded chat bot. I make many emotive claims because I'm an emotional animal and that isn't by choice? I don't just lack emotive reactions. This is why humans lack free will: they cannot control their own state or interpretations.

Your cope and my acceptance of truth are indeed just as valid. What's your point?

 

[fazehamster]

Thats the hard thing about this. Somrthing im realising is the truest blessing we have as humans is freedom. Life is truly in our hands, i have the power to rob a bank if i wanted. And because of that idea, it also means that there is no necessary ideal way of life, we have the freedom to decide that for ourselves, but then the question becomes, what if you dont know what you want in life? If you want the comfort and quick pleasure or the struggle and stress?

Endless suffering

 

[imontheloose]

If we’re just machines with no will, then your insults and truths are just pre programmed noise you didn't choose to make. Why should I listen to a biological machine that admits it has no control over its own thoughts?

Whether freedom is a fact or a biochemical illusion, we still have to live within it. Id rather use that illusion to try and build a life I actually want than sit around acting like a victim of my own neurons. One of us is trying to figure out how to live and the other is just making excuses for why he cant

I'm almost certain you're just replying to me using a chat bot. Maybe read what I said next time, we have no free will. We do indeed have will. There is no such libertarian freedom; your original claim was of freedom. You're also a biological machine who has no control over its own thoughts, unless you're just feeding a biological machine's uncontrolled thoughts to a digital machine to respond for you?

You can live as a coward, scared of the truth that everything you do is useless at the end of the day; no better than the serial killer or charity-giver, but that doesn't change the fact that you're living for nothing and your made up meaning is invoking meaning out of fear of the truth. There's no real point in continuing. You deluded yourself into it.

Absurdism is by far the most childish philosophy there is.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

I didnt say everyone off script is lost. I said that being honest enough to admit you're still searching is a sign of a functioning brain, whereas the most suggestible people are the ones who just swallow whatever path society hands them without questioning it. My point is that uncertainty isn't a lack of intelligence it's the first step to actually finding a choice that's yours.

No it's not. I was never uncertain.

Sounds like you're talking about jobs or careers. And even with that I've never been uncertain. From the age of 14 I was always certain that I would never have a career. I knew that I wanted to live in different places and do a myriad of things. I never had to come to any sort of conclusion that I wasn't certain to understand that.

 

[Wexilarious]

 

[Gentleman Unknown]

Yes. Life is objectively neutral; there is no good nor bad. I emotively call life rubbish and death perfect, yet it still has no meaning which I accept. Do you think I have conversations by not using adjectives anymore since they're all realistically neutral? This is like talking to a deluded chat bot. I make many emotive claims because I'm an emotional animal and that isn't by choice? I don't just lack emotive reactions. This is why humans lack free will: they cannot control their own state or interpretations.

Your cope and my acceptance of truth are indeed just as valid. What's your point?

My point is that if you admit your truth is just a result of being an 'emotional animal’ who 'cannot control his own interpretations,' then you’ve just disqualified your own argument because you aren't describing the world you're just describing your own internal hardware's glitches. If you cant trust your brain to be objective or in control, why should I trust your conclusion that life is rubbish? By your own logic, you're just a broken machine outputting noise. I’d rather trust the machine that’s actually functional enough to seek a better outcome

 

[Gentleman Unknown]

I'm almost certain you're just replying to me using a chat bot. Maybe read what I said next time, we have no free will. We do indeed have will. There is no such libertarian freedom; your original claim was of freedom. You're also a biological machine who has no control over its own thoughts, unless you're just feeding a biological machine's uncontrolled thoughts to a digital machine to respond for you?

You can live as a coward, scared of the truth that everything you do is useless at the end of the day; no better than the serial killer or charity-giver, but that doesn't change the fact that you're living for nothing and your made up meaning is invoking meaning out of fear of the truth. There's no real point in continuing. You deluded yourself into it.

Absurdism is by far the most childish philosophy there is.

Thats my point tho. You call it cowardice to create meaning but it actually takes more courage to build a life in a useless universe than it does to just lay down and rot because nothing matters. Calling the effort to live well childish is just a defense mechanism you use to protect yourself from the disappointment of actually trying.

If everything is truly neutral, then my delusion of a good life is objectively better than your truth of a miserable one. My meaningless neurons are having a much better time than yours

 

[Gentleman Unknown]

No it's not. I was never uncertain.

Sounds like you're talking about jobs or careers. And even with that I've never been uncertain. From the age of 14 I was always certain that I would never have a career. I knew that I wanted to live in different places and do a myriad of things. I never had to come to any sort of conclusion that I wasn't certain to understand that.

If you’ve known your path since you were 14 and never wavered, thats a rare level of clarity. But for most people, realizing that the default 'scripts' don't work leads to a period of uncertainty. I dont see that uncertainty as being slow or suggestible, I see it as making sure the next move I make is actually mine and not just another reaction

 

[Lefty Rankin]

If you’ve known your path since you were 14 and never wavered, thats a rare level of clarity. But for most people, realizing that the default 'scripts' don't work leads to a period of uncertainty. I dont see that uncertainty as being slow or suggestible, I see it as making sure the next move I make is actually mine and not just another reaction

Don't be reactive to anything, as a default, and your problem's solved.

 

[Gentleman Unknown]

Don't be reactive to anything, as a default, and your problem's solved.

Being non reactive is the goal, but getting there usually requires the exact period of questioning you were calling suggestible

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Being non reactive is the goal, but getting there usually requires the exact period of questioning you were calling suggestible

Look, I think you already know what you want. It's just that whatever it is doesn't fit in any prescribed box.

 

[Gentleman Unknown]

Over for black brah

 

[adderallx]

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[Gentleman Unknown]

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