What makes the lips downturned like this?

[Treasure223]

In my opinion
-braces
-cranio facial dystrophy
And idk what else.
Anyway to fix it?

 

[Deleted member 6723]

thats the philtrum.

 

[Treasure223]

thats the philtrum.

Any fixes?

 

[Deleted member 6723]

Any fixes?

wdym by downturned first the 2nd pic or 1st pic?

 

[Treasure223]

wdym by downturned first the 2nd pic or 1st pic?

I have one like the second the first is ideal

 

[Deleted member 6723]

I have one like the second the first is ideal

not sure tbh but probably something related to the lips is causing it I've heard it from someone.

 

[Treasure223]

not sure tbh but probably something related to the lips is causing it I've heard it from someone.

Might be my bite also

 

[Deleted member 6723]

Might be my bite also

yeah same I have the same philtrum and my central incisors are tilted forward. Also have an overbite

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Dude ive seen your face in pm. Just focus on double jaw bimax and speak with @DatGuyYouLike for help who had it done and ascended from low-tier normie to normie.

 

[spark]

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In my opinion
-braces
-cranio facial dystrophy
And idk what else.
Anyway to fix it?

Clockwise rotated maxilla probably. But 2nd is rare as it is still protruding. Most people with a recessed maxilla have their philtrum completely straight down or even going back.

 

[Entschuldigung]

Your mom drank too much

 

[datboijj]

it's from over bites

 

[FacialAesthetics]

Overbite/overjet/Class II crowding

Also protruding is caused by overjet, not overbite like some of these retards on here with an 8th grade education believe

 

[andy9432]

Recessed lower maxilla.

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Second one makes you look like an unevolved chimp

 

[Dr. Greenberg]

Second one makes you look like an unevolved chimp

Keep barking

 

[Deleted member 12218]

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Keep barking

Your avi literally has a convex one. Just look at the philtrum mog.

Anybody can cherry pick one attractive person who is the exception, but that doesn’t stop the convex shape from being ideal.

Look at some really attractive people’s side profile, nearly everyone has a short and convex philtrum, that’s no coincidence


If you still believe chimp mouth is ideal after reading this then there’s no helping you besides a copium overdose

 

[Treasure223]

Your avi literally has a convex one. Just look at the philtrum mog.
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Anybody can cherry pick one attractive person who is the exception, but that doesn’t stop the convex shape from being ideal.

Look at some really attractive people’s side profile, nearly everyone has a short and convex philtrum, that’s no coincidence


If you still believe chimp mouth is ideal after reading this then there’s no helping you besides a copium overdose

Which ones chimp mouth? Left or right?

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Which ones chimp mouth? Left or right?

You're serious? Obviously the left one, that's why all the male models have a chimp mouth.

 

[Treasure223]

You're serious? Obviously the left one, that's why all the male models have a chimp mouth.

Which one you think is ideal?

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Which one you think is ideal?

Obviously chimp mouth, we need to unevolve back into our chimp like ancestors

 

[Treasure223]

Obviously chimp mouth, we need to unevolve back into our chimp like ancestors

Then what did you mean by this]

If you still believe chimp mouth is ideal after reading this then there’s no helping you besides a copium overdose

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Then what did you mean by this]

 

[Treasure223]

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True but you said "if you think itz ideal then idk" like as if your saying it isnt.

 

[Deleted member 12218]

True but you said "if you think itz ideal then idk" like as if your saying it isnt.

Bro you are so slow, do you not see the sarcasm I put into my comments? You remind me of this one autistic kid in my class who never got any of my jokes

 

[Treasure223]

Bro you are so slow, do you not see the sarcasm I put into my comments? You remind me of this one autistic kid in my class who never got any of my jokes

How would i ffix

 

[LebenistneHure]

How would i ffix

Lip lift

 

[Deleted member 5061]

The cause for the concavity of the philtrum like shown on this example is not always an overbite or some jaw related stuff.

Since I have something similar, but no overbite, Im trying to figure out how this could be fixed.

One of my theories is that the curvature of the front teeth is too steep (slightly too narrow palate might be the reason for it) so that the front of the upper teeth causes that.

My upper teeth look more like the black line, I wonder if the curvature of the front teeth and palate could be changed with invisalign to look more like the red line. It would result in some lower jaw retrusion by like 5-8 millimeters, but if the philtrum ends up looking normal (convex) after that, it would be worth it imo.

Good thread op, tag me if you find some new info about this. Also when the philtrum is too long, it usually ends up looking like in the op.

 

[GigaAscender]

Gay