what moviments would be needed to achieve this result? Eye area

[Tenshi]

As far a surgery wise I'm pretty sure what is necessary here: canthopexy, ptosis repair and possibly lower lid retraction (I don't think infras would be necessary from what I've seen) but I would like to know at what ranges we're talking here to discuss with the surgeon:

I believe for the lateral canthopexy 2-3mm movement but I got no idea how much is necessary for the lower eyelid to retract this much. This is a morph I did:

I also morphed this one, which is supposed to be a bigger movement creating more of a PCT:

What do you guys think

 

[NZb6Air]

supras + infras + canthoplasty(

) + squinching = last pic

 

[Tenshi]

supras + infras + canthoplasty(View attachment 3242811) + squinching = last pic

my eyes are deep set already but I have huge congenital ptosis. second and third pic I didn't edit the upper eyelid, i'm just forcefully trying to keep my eyes opened. Infras I'm not sure yet, there might be lack of support but I don't have bad cheekbones.

canthoplasty tends to shorten a bit your PFL as oppose to a canthopexy, but I wonder if that would be necessary for the lower eyelid retraction. Don't want to be one of those people who go under the knife and it looks like they didn't change at all.

 

[NZb6Air]

my eyes are deep set already

show side then

second and third pic I didn't edit the upper eyelid, i'm just forcefully trying to keep my eyes opened

what, which one is edited and which one is unfrauded

Infras I'm not sure yet, there might be lack of support but I don't have bad cheekbones.

it doesnt have to reach zygos, it could be tear through only

canthoplasty tends to shorten a bit your PFL as oppose to a canthopexy

? plasty is reattach, pexy is tighten i.e. it's not gonna do anything on its own

the pfl change depends on your lateral orbit, most people don't see a change in PFL lol

 

[Tenshi]

show side then

what, which one is edited and which one is unfrauded

first pic is not edited, second and third I only edited the lateral canthus and lower lid. I simply opened my eyes to simulate what the ptosis repair could do.

it doesnt have to reach zygos, it could be tear through only

Hm that's good to know, that could help actually.

? plasty is reattach, pexy is tighten i.e. it's not gonna do anything on its own

the pfl change depends on your lateral orbit, most people don't see a change in PFL lol

could be me, I have the impression that most of the cantho results got their pfl screwed a bit. Whereas the results with canthopexy the eyes tend to look a bit longer, I think @RealSurgerymax said something along the lines of that but I'm not sure.

 

[NZb6Air]

View attachment 3242874


first pic is not edited, second and third I only edited the lateral canthus and lower lid. I simply opened my eyes to simulate what the ptosis repair could do.

Hm that's good to know, that could help actually.


could be me, I have the impression that most of the cantho results got their pfl screwed a bit. Whereas the results with canthopexy the eyes tend to look a bit longer, I think @RealSurgerymax said something along the lines of that but I'm not sure.

ye still needs supras lol, it's not ptosis

and he said this lol :

Whether it could minimally increase PFL depends on 2 factors:

• Whether the lateral canthus was against the bridge of the bone to begin with or hangs off slightly (as in some people genetically and as happens with aging)
• The shape of your orbits. To explain this in less of a vague way picture 3 landmarks:
  1. Medial Canthus (MC)
  2. Old Lateral Canthus (LC1)
  3. New Lateral Canthal Position after surgical repositioning (LC2)
     • In some people MC-to-LC1 will be a longer distance. In others MC-to-LC2 will be a slightly longer distance...
• So with these factors considered is that in most younger patients Bridge of Bone Canthoplasty will not effect PFL very much at all in either direction.

 

[Tenshi]

ye still needs supras lol, it's not ptosis

and he said this lol :

Is there something funny about my post?

thanks for the answer