What % of gen z men have porn induced erectile dysfunction?

[Recessed Life]

Men are being spammed porn and hypersexualised content by billion dollar companies. There are teams of people dedicating to analysing data farmed by smartphones and other devices and working out how to best manipulate and destroy a human brain.

Men are being mass manipulated into porn addicts by factors outside of our control, with a quick look through this forum you can see this for yourself. So how widespread do you think this issue is?

 

[Deleted member 95452]

men are born as porn addicts, take a caveman from 40Kya and show him pornography, he will be instantly "addicted"

every man in history who had any testosterone whatsoever fantasized about sexual things daily

these anti-porn types just wanna scapegoat something for all their problems

 

[GreekGenes]

Probably 0%

 

[Recessed Life]

men are born as porn addicts, take a caveman from 40Kya and show him pornography, he will be instantly "addicted"

every man in history who had any testosterone whatsoever fantasized about sexual things daily

these anti-porn types just wanna scapegoat something for all their problems

If the caveman had access to millions of different naked women doing all kinds of extreme sex acts do you think it would affect his ability to hunt and mate?

 

[Deleted member 95452]

If the caveman had access to millions of different naked women doing all kinds of extreme sex acts do you think it would affect his ability to hunt and mate?

would it? yes, probably
but so does everything in modern society

 

[nuisance]

men are born as porn addicts, take a caveman from 40Kya and show him pornography, he will be instantly "addicted"

every man in history who had any testosterone whatsoever fantasized about sexual things daily

these anti-porn types just wanna scapegoat something for all their problems

there is a difference, men arent supposed to be able to see hundreds of the hottest women possible getting fucked. It does something to the brain in a negative way its not natural.

 

[Deleted member 95452]

there is a difference, men arent supposed to be able to see hundreds of the hottest women possible getting fucked. It does something to the brain in a negative way its not natural.

men have always imagined hundreds of hot women being fucked in their fantasies tho, so its not really a new thing

 

[nuisance]

men have always imagined hundreds of hot women being fucked in their fantasies tho, so its not really a new thing

Imagining something does not even come close to the same amount of dopamine rush and other chemicals your body releases while watching porn, the visuals/moaning and different genres of porn.

that's what porn induced ED is you get so much mental stimulation from porn, then just thinking about sex wont be enough to get you hard eventually.

 

[Deleted member 95452]

Imagining something does not even come close to the same amount of dopamine rush and other chemicals your body releases while watching porn, the visuals/moaning and different genres of porn.

why? you're seeing an image in both scenarios

that's what porn induced ED is you get so much mental stimulation from porn, then just thinking about sex wont be enough to get you hard eventually.

i highly doubt this exists, makes 0 sense to not get hard from imagining an image as compared to sensing it

 

[nuisance]

why? you're seeing an image in both scenarios


i highly doubt this exists, makes 0 sense to not get hard from imagining an image as compared to sensing it

It sounds like you're just trying to find a way to cling on to your porn use.

There is no way in hell you can say imagining sex is the same as looking at a perfect woman getting fucked in studio lighting with the sounds of her moaning and being a slut. Thats like saying Imagining the feeling of heroin is close to the effect of real heroin.

Dont lie to yourself when you watch porn you bust way more nut and orgasm harder than just thinking of sex, way more dopamine.

Eventually this constant amount of heavy dopamine rushes won't give the same feelings and it used to, leading to a loss of interest in other weaker dopamine releases, working out, just plain sex, etc.

Thats how most drugs work aswell, they give you a hormone rush and later you will always need more, do you think a heroin user will feel good off some oxycontin?

 

[XxW33dSm0k3rxX]

men are born as porn addicts, take a caveman from 40Kya and show him pornography, he will be instantly "addicted"

every man in history who had any testosterone whatsoever fantasized about sexual things daily

these anti-porn types just wanna scapegoat something for all their problems

how is that the same thing at all?

 

[Blonde]

It sounds like you're just trying to find a way to cling on to your porn use.

There is no way in hell you can say imagining sex is the same as looking at a perfect woman getting fucked in studio lighting with the sounds of her moaning and being a slut. Thats like saying Imagining the feeling of heroin is close to the effect of real heroin.

Dont lie to yourself when you watch porn you bust way more nut and orgasm harder than just thinking of sex, way more dopamine.

Eventually this constant amount of heavy dopamine rushes won't give the same feelings and it used to, leading to a loss of interest in other weaker dopamine releases, working out, just plain sex, etc.

Thats how most drugs work aswell, they give you a hormone rush and later you will always need more, do you think a heroin user will feel good off some oxycontin?

how do we fix this problem? asking for a friend

 

[Deleted member 95452]

There is no way in hell you can say imagining sex is the same as looking at a perfect woman getting fucked in studio lighting with the sounds of her moaning and being a slut. Thats like saying Imagining the feeling of heroin is close to the effect of real heroin.

but it isnt.
you can't imagine the material reality of having heroin in your system, because imagination is immaterial

the mental representation of the visual input you get from porn is just as immaterial as a sexual fantasy - and i can attest that imagining a sexual situation feels the same as watching porn

 

[Deleted member 95452]

how is that the same thing at all

how is it not? at the end of the day, both simulate the same phenomenon in your mind, as if you're actually observing it

and real sex is pretty much just pornography + physical interaction with another person, if you think about it

 

[XxW33dSm0k3rxX]

how is it not? at the end of the day, both simulate the same phenomenon in your mind, as if you're actually observing it

and real sex is pretty much just pornography + physical interaction with another person, if you think about it

still not the same thing porn gives brain damage real sex doesnt

 

[Deleted member 95452]

still not the same thing porn gives brain damage real sex doesnt

why is it not the same thing?
to your brain, it is the same thing - and porn is just brain stimulus

youre not making any sense

 

[The Dark Phoenix]

I have college induced erectile dysfunction, 4 hours of sleep 24 hours of stress and 1 meal a day

 

[nuisance]

but it isnt.
you can't imagine the material reality of having heroin in your system, because imagination is immaterial

the mental representation of the visual input you get from porn is just as immaterial as a sexual fantasy - and i can attest that imagining a sexual situation feels the same as watching porn

Imagining sex ----> Not much dopamine release

Watching porn and edging to it ------> literal drug levels of dopamine release

Everybody knows porn is addictive if you deny that you are stupid and multiple scientific studies back up porns addictiveness, the way it is addictive is because of dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin, and some other hormones and neurotransmitters.

Every addictive substance on the earth that deals with those brain chemicals eventually leads the person using those substances to not find pleasure in things that release those chemicals in small amounts such as hard work, going out, working out, talking to people.

 

[XxW33dSm0k3rxX]

why is it not the same thing?
to your brain, it is the same thing - and porn is just brain stimulus

youre not making any sense

stop gaslighting your the one making no sense

 

[nuisance]

stop gaslighting your the one making no sense

hes and addict addicts always try to find a way to justify their addiction

 

[SoundnVision]

95 minimum probably even higher

 

[Deleted member 95452]

Imagining sex ----> Not much dopamine release

Watching porn and edging to it ------> literal drug levels of dopamine release

source? there is literally no reason for why this would be the case

Everybody knows porn is addictive if you deny that you are stupid and multiple scientific studies back up porns addictiveness, the way it is addictive is because of dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin, and some other hormones and neurotransmitters.

what about studies on sexual fantasies? if you want to prove its different, you need to have data on both
even food is addictive, that doesnt make it bad - except that food is physical, and porn is visual, an image, one you can imagine out of thin air

the anti-porn conspiracy must be the dumbest one yet

 

[Deleted member 95452]

hes and addict addicts always try to find a way to justify their addiction

i only read erotica, porn is cringeworthy to me, but most guys dont care about that so i get why they like it

 

[nuisance]

how do we fix this problem? asking for a friend

cold turkey, no more porn use at all.

Its actually extremely hard, that really shows its a addiction.

You even get withdrawal symptoms super moody and then a flatline in emotions that lasts about 60-90 days. Its a well-known phenomenon and I myself quit porn twice and felt mentally horrible for a couple of months because of a lack of dopamine and serotonin. Eventually things get better and your tolerance to dopamine and seritonin lowers and you get happy again.

 

[Deleted member 95452]

how do we fix this problem? asking for a friend

its not a problem, just keep watching porn and fix the problems in your life that you wanna fix, instead of thinking doing this one thing is gonna reverse all your issues automatically

 

[nuisance]

source? there is literally no reason for why this would be the case


what about studies on sexual fantasies? if you want to prove its different, you need to have data on both
even food is addictive, that doesnt make it bad - except that food is physical, and porn is visual, an image, one you can imagine out of thin air

the anti-porn conspiracy must be the dumbest one yet

Its proven porn releases more dopamine than actual sex and lasts longer, so how can you say fantasies are on the same level as PORN AND SEX!

The difference between porn, food, nicotine, and actual sex is drastically different as seen below.


"The value that is assigned to an addictive stimulus depends on how much dopamine is released when the stimulus is encountered. As you can see in Figure 2, food increases dopamine output to 150% of normal production. The widely accepted addictive drug nicotine, found in cigarettes, increases dopamine production to 200%. Sexual intercourse increases dopamine to 250%. The use of pornography increases dopamine output even higher than sex and maintains that output for far longer. Even an extremely addictive drug like cocaine, which has an initially higher spike of dopamine, starts decreasing in output much faster than pornography. As shown in Figure 2, the brain interprets pornography to be extremely valuable and essential for survival, thus important to maintain. This results in biological processes that activate to maintain this resource. These processes result in addiction."



Simone, K. and Gallinat, J. 2014. Brain Structure and Functional Connectivity Associated with Pornography Consumption.JAMA Psychiatry, 71(7), 827-834.

"Taken together, one may be tempted to assume that the frequent brain activation caused by pornography exposure might lead to wearing and downregulation of the underlying brain structure, as well as function, and a higher need for external stimulation of the reward system and a tendency to search for novel and more extreme sexual material. This hypothesized self-perpetuating process could be interpreted in light of proposed mechanisms in drug addiction where individuals with lower striatal dopamine receptor availability are assumed to medicate themselves with drugs.63 However, the observed volumetric association with PHs in the striatum could likewise be a precondition rather than a consequence of frequent pornography consumption. Individuals with lower striatum volume may need more external stimulation to experience pleasure and might therefore experience pornography consumption as more rewarding, which may in turn lead to higher PHs. Future studies should investigate the effects of pornography longitudinally or expose naïve participants to pornography and investigate the causal effects over time to provide further evidence for the proposed mechanism of intense exposure to pornographic stimuli, resulting in a downregulation of the reward system."

 

[Deleted member 95452]

Its proven porn releases more dopamine than actual sex and lasts longer, so how can you say fantasies are on the same level as PORN AND SEX!

The difference between porn, food, nicotine, and actual sex is drastically different as seen below.


"The value that is assigned to an addictive stimulus depends on how much dopamine is released when the stimulus is encountered. As you can see in Figure 2, food increases dopamine output to 150% of normal production. The widely accepted addictive drug nicotine, found in cigarettes, increases dopamine production to 200%. Sexual intercourse increases dopamine to 250%. The use of pornography increases dopamine output even higher than sex and maintains that output for far longer. Even an extremely addictive drug like cocaine, which has an initially higher spike of dopamine, starts decreasing in output much faster than pornography. As shown in Figure 2, the brain interprets pornography to be extremely valuable and essential for survival, thus important to maintain. This results in biological processes that activate to maintain this resource. These processes result in addiction."



Simone, K. and Gallinat, J. 2014. Brain Structure and Functional Connectivity Associated with Pornography Consumption.JAMA Psychiatry, 71(7), 827-834.

"Taken together, one may be tempted to assume that the frequent brain activation caused by pornography exposure might lead to wearing and downregulation of the underlying brain structure, as well as function, and a higher need for external stimulation of the reward system and a tendency to search for novel and more extreme sexual material. This hypothesized self-perpetuating process could be interpreted in light of proposed mechanisms in drug addiction where individuals with lower striatal dopamine receptor availability are assumed to medicate themselves with drugs.63 However, the observed volumetric association with PHs in the striatum could likewise be a precondition rather than a consequence of frequent pornography consumption. Individuals with lower striatum volume may need more external stimulation to experience pleasure and might therefore experience pornography consumption as more rewarding, which may in turn lead to higher PHs. Future studies should investigate the effects of pornography longitudinally or expose naïve participants to pornography and investigate the causal effects over time to provide further evidence for the proposed mechanism of intense exposure to pornographic stimuli, resulting in a downregulation of the reward system."

because fantasies provide you with the specific stimulus you actually want, so they might release even more dopamine than porn, which isnt strictly tailored to your preferences

it makes sense for sex to release less dopamine than porn, because sex is even less tailored to your sexual preferences, while fantasies are the most tailored, with the most pleasurable and dopaminergic image possible being produced inside your imagination

 

[Deleted member 95452]

also, lol - porn increases dopamine more in porn users, because in porn users its a sign of an upcoming orgasm, so no shit
if you use fantasies instead of porn, they'll be the ones increasing dopamine

if you have sex less often than you watch porn, ofc its gonna be less associated with orgasms, so it will release less dopamine

 

[nuisance]

because fantasies provide you with the specific stimulus you actually want, so they might release even more dopamine than porn, which isnt strictly tailored to your preferences

it makes sense for sex to release less dopamine than porn, because sex is even less tailored to your sexual preferences, while fantasies are the most tailored, with the most pleasurable and dopaminergic image possible being produced inside your imagination

I don't know why you are avoiding the obvious

Tell someone to jerk off to the thought of them having sex with the woman of their dreams, the tell someone that never watched porn in their life to jerk off to it.

The person who never saw porn will bust in like 20 seconds, orgasm way harder, and shoot a bigger load. That is all because of dopamine, serotonin, and oxytocin.

Porn has perfect women, moaning, clapping, wetness, noises hitting all of your senses. Mabye you have some extraordinary imagination i don't know but for everybody else porn will get them turned on 10x more and release way more brain chemicals which is scientifically proven..

 

[Deleted member 95452]

I don't know why you are avoiding the obvious

Tell someone to jerk off to the thought of them having sex with the woman of their dreams, the tell someone that never watched porn in their life to jerk off to it.

The person who never saw porn will bust in like 20 seconds, orgasm way harder, and shoot a bigger load. That is all because of dopamine, serotonin, and oxytocin.

Porn has perfect women, moaning, clapping, wetness, noises hitting all of your senses. Mabye you have some extraordinary imagination i don't know but for everybody else porn will get them turned on 10x more and release way more brain chemicals which is scientifically proven..

ngl i think you're just projecting your own issues with porn onto everybody else

 

[nuisance]

also, lol - porn increases dopamine more in porn users, because in porn users its a sign of an upcoming orgasm, so no shit
if you use fantasies instead of porn, they'll be the ones increasing dopamine

if you have sex less often than you watch porn, ofc its gonna be less associated with orgasms, so it will release less dopamine

You are very wrong, porn, sex and regular jerking off, to nothing all lead to orgasm but have different effects on the brain

ngl i think you're just projecting your own issues with porn onto everybody else

Thankfully I am free from porn for over 3 years

Every person that has the urge to watch porn frequently has an issue with porn. Any dopamine-related addiction on planet earth leads to significant problems eventually in persons life.

Science shows porn is more addictive than sex, jerking off, nicotine and this is proven. So if you arent addicted to porn why are you trying to defend it so hard when the science says its no good long term?

 

[Deleted member 95452]

You are very wrong, porn, sex and regular jerking off, to nothing all lead to orgasm but have different effects on the brain

yeah because some are more associated with orgasms than others

Thankfully I am free from porn for over 3 years

Every person that has the urge to watch porn frequently has an issue with porn. Any dopamine-related addiction on planet earth leads to significant problems eventually in persons life.

Science shows porn is more addictive than sex, jerking off, nicotine and this is proven. So if you arent addicted to porn why are you trying to defend it so hard when the science says its no good long term?

you seem awfully attached to your relationship to porn, meanwhile most guys, even successful ones, dont pay attention to it

i personally defend it because obsessing over minute shit like this is mentally damaging

 

[nuisance]

yeah because some are more associated with orgasms than others

This makes zero sense, all of those lead to orgasm in a normal functioning body.

yeah because some are more associated with orgasms than others

you seem awfully attached to your relationship to porn, meanwhile most guys, even successful ones, dont pay attention to it

i personally defend it because obsessing over minute shit like this is mentally damaging

Doesn't matter if you pay attention to it or not it eventually will shit on you, do you think a person addicted to opioids pays attention to it until it starts causing real problem in their life?

i personally defend it because obsessing over minute shit like this is mentally damaging

Thats just your opinion that its minute, science says otherwise. No point in arguing with a person who is so close-minded.

 

[Deleted member 95452]

This makes zero sense, all of those lead to orgasm in a normal functioning body.

but people use them to achieve orgasm at different frequencies, so the brain is wired to associate some with an upcoming orgasm more than others

Doesn't matter if you pay attention to it or not it eventually will shit on you, do you think a person addicted to opioids pays attention to it until it starts causing real problem in their life?

opioids are hard not to pay attention to and they cause immediate problems and have withdrawals

Thats just your opinion that its minute, science says otherwise. No point in arguing with a person who is so close-minded.

your study didn't even agree with you conclusively, it clearly says in the relationship they found the causation could be in either direction

 

[whknows34]

its not a problem, just keep watching porn and fix the problems in your life that you wanna fix, instead of thinking doing this one thing is gonna reverse all your issues automatically

You have to be retarded lmao

 

[Adonis2654]

That leaves more stacies for chads.