what should i do to save my maxillary and jaw projection with all 2nd premolars removed (4 teeth) and braces on?

[osamason]

im 18 years old, and i got these braces 10 months ago and my teeth removed 7 months ago (i was 17 during both procedures). to be quite honest, my maxillary projection was never very good (im asian) but im saved by my zygomatic protrusions. after reading way more shit on mewing, TMJ, and maxillary expansion im hella scared about fucking my entire face with these braces. idk if this matters, but prior to getting braces my teeth already looked pretty straight, it was my bite that was fucked up (crossbite) and my lower teeth were a little too far behind my upper teeth than they were supposed to be. i bit my nails grewing up and was under a lot of stress and occasional mouth breathing, so all of that probably got me there. also when i bit down prior to getting braces my face would look super squished and subhuman (i hated it so much when i noticed that i just forced myself to get braces). to elaborate, whenever i had my front teeth touch in the correct position and my molars separated, my face looked A fucking 10, so i just stuck my face in this position 24/7.
i think the braces have helped my squish face a bit, but i'm still scared of any other adverse effects from these braces because i have a whole 14 months left in my treatment (i might be moving faster than they predicted, so it could be shorter).
this past year ive also fixed my teeth grinding + mouth breathing, and i've managed to maintain consistently correct tongue posture. aside from that, i do nothing, no jaw or face exercises.

any advice on what i should do or what my options are? i cannot afford to recess my maxilla even more. like please for the love of fucking god.

more info: upper palate could be wider, touching side teeth but basically fits full width of tongue; gaps left my 2nd premolar removal barely left on upper teeth, around 50% left on bottom teeth.

 

[moggingislife]

dnr

 

[osamason]

dnr

what the fuck does that mean

 

[perpetuallytired]

 

[JohnDoe]

what the fuck does that mean

 

[JohnDoe]

Braces will fuck you up imo, i wouldn't personally do it but who knows

 

[osamason]

Braces will fuck you up imo, i wouldn't personally do it but who knows

i feel like since im already 18 the shit wont change my facial structure but only fix my bite, is this not a valid hypothesis

 

[Allornothing]

Braces won't harm your aesthetics ever. It's just not physically or even logically possible.

 

[drxkes]

im 18 years old, and i got these braces 10 months ago and my teeth removed 7 months ago (i was 17 during both procedures). to be quite honest, my maxillary projection was never very good (im asian) but im saved by my zygomatic protrusions. after reading way more shit on mewing, TMJ, and maxillary expansion im hella scared about fucking my entire face with these braces. idk if this matters, but prior to getting braces my teeth already looked pretty straight, it was my bite that was fucked up (crossbite) and my lower teeth were a little too far behind my upper teeth than they were supposed to be. i bit my nails grewing up and was under a lot of stress and occasional mouth breathing, so all of that probably got me there. also when i bit down prior to getting braces my face would look super squished and subhuman (i hated it so much when i noticed that i just forced myself to get braces). to elaborate, whenever i had my front teeth touch in the correct position and my molars separated, my face looked A fucking 10, so i just stuck my face in this position 24/7.
i think the braces have helped my squish face a bit, but i'm still scared of any other adverse effects from these braces because i have a whole 14 months left in my treatment (i might be moving faster than they predicted, so it could be shorter).
this past year ive also fixed my teeth grinding + mouth breathing, and i've managed to maintain consistently correct tongue posture. aside from that, i do nothing, no jaw or face exercises.

any advice on what i should do or what my options are? i cannot afford to recess my maxilla even more. like please for the love of fucking god.

more info: upper palate could be wider, touching side teeth but basically fits full width of tongue; gaps left my 2nd premolar removal barely left on upper teeth, around 50% left on bottom teeth.

surgery

 

[osamason]

Braces won't harm your aesthetics ever. It's just not physically or even logically possible.

technically, especially since 4 of my teeth were removed, cant they make my palate smaller and harm my forward projection?

 

[WagedandReady]

technically, especially since 4 of my teeth were removed, cant they make my palate smaller and harm my forward projection?

That would depend on if your appliance is also made to eventually retract your bite or if it’s just meant to straighten/align your teeth. If it’s the latter, your maxillary projection shouldn’t be affected. If retraction is part of your ortho’s plan then you’ll need DJS later to undo this. Period. No way around it.

Aside from that, continue practicing correct oral posture, nasal breathing, and keeping your mouth closed (even when sleeping) to prevent shit from getting any worse.

 

[osamason]

That would depend on if your appliance is also made to eventually retract your bite or if it’s just meant to straighten/align your teeth. If it’s the latter, your maxillary projection shouldn’t be affected. If retraction is part of your ortho’s plan then you’ll need DJS later to undo this. Period. No way around it.

Aside from that, continue practicing correct oral posture, nasal breathing, and keeping your mouth closed (even when sleeping) to prevent shit from getting any worse.

this is what i was looking for. preciate you bro.

 

[beebeem_]

If you have a crossbite then you get a palatal expander not your 4 teeths getting removed

 

[retardedcel]

You got jewed
It's over buddy boyo

 

[osamason]

If you have a crossbite then you get a palatal expander not your 4 teeths getting removed

also had crowding if i didnt mention

 

[mhd_79]

I have a overbite and I’m thinking abt braces, did braces fuck your face up?

 

[osamason]

I have a overbite and I’m thinking abt braces, did braces fuck your face up?

nah my face is still top-tier, feeling more and more handsome everyday tbh.

 

[osamason]

That would depend on if your appliance is also made to eventually retract your bite or if it’s just meant to straighten/align your teeth. If it’s the latter, your maxillary projection shouldn’t be affected. If retraction is part of your ortho’s plan then you’ll need DJS later to undo this. Period. No way around it.

Aside from that, continue practicing correct oral posture, nasal breathing, and keeping your mouth closed (even when sleeping) to prevent shit from getting any worse.

if my braces are (partially) fixing incisor flare would that count as retracting my bite?

 

[noahwillascend]

brb imagining pics

 

[mhd_79]

nah my face is still top-tier, feeling more and more handsome everyday tbh.

How old are you and why did you get braces?

 

[osamason]

How old are you and why did you get braces?

18, got em a year ago for light crossbite and my molars got flattened cus of grinding, so i thought my squished face would be fixed by braces lol.