prob about 8k i’m from the uk tho
Orbital decompression might fuck me over like that frank tufano guy but better to try than being a subhuman. Won’t go to that jew taban thoOrbital decompression with infra implant and canthoplasty boom ascenssion
Like OD?
No it will not. Tufano's outcome on his OD surgery is extraordinary rare. The surgeon simply shaved too much bones on the medial walls in the orbits. That's why he's cross eyed inward. The eye muscles adapt on the new generated space foremost on the medial wall so it's crucial for the surgeon to only compress in that area as necessary. The lateral wall is much more forgiving regarding shaving the bones without having strabismus afterwards. It can improve your ipd because the lateral decompression will shift your eyes slightly outwards. Most surgeons do first deep lateral orbital decompression and when this is not enough than medial orbital decompression. In your case difficult to say how much decompression you need. Deep Lateral decompression can correct 4-5mm. There are only a few surgeons I would trust to do it. You can DM me if you want.
If you watch one of Frank's videos, he admits that Taban expressly advised him not to do it.
Which part of the video is it and which video he made two
I can't remember now. It's the one where he's sitting in front of his house. He made a bunch of update videos for different revision surgeries.
All i can remember is that taban upcharged him and actually recommended another procedure so ru sure taban advised him not to
Yes. I found it. 6:10 of "EYEBALLS UPDATE! 3rd Eye Surgery!?!?". Frank should have signed the NDA and taken the money. There are enough contradictions in his videos alone for any half-competent lawyer to run rings around the guy.
I’ve just seen it, it’s strange tho if taban advised him not to get the OD how come he uncharged him
I disagree, you must look the conversation from Frank with Taban in the right context. Frank foremost said to Taban that he wanted deep set eyes like some male model whatever. Taban responded that he must decompress a lot to achieve his goals and suggested him an alternative surgery plan, because he knew that the orbital decompression will be very aggressive on him to achieve such result. Btw Tufano had bulgy eyes before doing OD and another procedure would have disappointed him because doubtful cosmetic results (of course without the debilitating problems after OD he's facing now). I think that Taban had a bad moment during the surgery. This can happen. Why we fly when every year some of the planes crash? Should we stop flying? I don't want miscredit Frank Tufano he has serious issues after his OD, but they can be fixed. He's not blind. His issue has to do with his eye muscles, his optic nerves are intact that's most important. Would he address to the right person(s) they can fix his strabismus.
Taban advised Frank against undergoing the procedure. I agree that Frank's undoing was of his own making though.
All I said is that a 10% compliance rate is not insignificant. Would you get on a plane i there was a 1 in 10 chance of it crashing? The surgery does come with associated risks to the functionality of the eyes. I recognise that the risk of blindness is infinitesimal but there are other issues, such as misalignment that are significant non-zero likelihood complications.
Do you mean upcharged?
It's no way 1 in 10..get some proper data. Risk for blindness is around 1 in 100 000 (and only when no surgeon is avaiable to fix the hemorrhage, bleeding, behind the eyeball after the orbital decompression when it happens),. Blindness is virtually excludet when you do the surgery by an expert with a lot of experience because of his technique doing surgery and he will look at you the next day because of this little risk. permanent double vision (strabismus is around 1 in 1000 foremost when the orbital decompression is performed heavily on the medial wall, inward squint like Franks case. this can be fixed in most cases.
If you read my comment, I didn't say 1 in 10 for blindness. I agreed that the risk of blindness is incredibly low.
I know I know, but your numbers are mixed up, wrong, also regarding strabismus complications after OD. Most patients that have strabism after OD are syndromic patients with grave disease that must decompress from 7mm and above - 15mm. That's why in this patient also the medial wall get decompressed to achieve more decompression and even the orbital floor get sometimes decompressed in this syndromic patients. Decompression of the medial wall alone without doing the compensation of the lateral wall with the same depth (shaving the bones) will almost always lead to inward strabism. This happened to Frank T.
My mistake. Checked the literature now. You're right. I tried looking for surveys on OD for patients with no chronic conditions but information is very scarce as it's clearly not considered an elective surgery by the mainstream.
check dm btw
Nothing found.. Send it again.
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Do you have any literature/data on efficacy in cosmetic cases out of interest? In Taban's own paper, he states that he doesn't just do lateral decompression alone for most of the cases.
Orbital decompression with infra implant and canthoplasty boom ascenssion
That’s taban tho there’s other good results online
do you mind sending pics in dm
Look if it's cosmetic or syndromal ( grave disease) like the most part of patient are that did OD doesn't matter. The surgery technique is the same with the only two differences that for cosmetic reasons the decompression will normally be much less invasive and no fat will be removed like in the grave disease patients. Taban, Taban... Other surgeons know how decompress in a meaningful manner only shaving the lateral bone. Even when they shave also the medial bone a little it's not that you get cross eyed. It is crucial when shaving the bones lateral and medial to shave it with the right ratio.
Oh, I remember your case. If you don’t mind me asking, did you experience any negative hooding after the supra implant? Also, did the orbital implant become visible like in the image attached below? Do you regret anything about the implants? What do you think about your implant design compared to Giant's? Do you believe conservative movements are better than larger ones?
I wonder how many Ipd difference laterall can do.
. I have 60-61Ipd and midface length of 64 and esr of 0.428 but recovery is stil qutie brutal if get 2mm ipd increase doubt it will change alot. I will probably have ideal esr 0.44+ and mid face ratio 0.95+ . But as it been seen some people with low esr does look cyclops because of midfaceratio >0.90 ,eyebrows and icd. So real impact might be less than actual ratios The medical literature on the safety profile for cosmetic cases is pretty scarce. I only used Taban because his paper was literally the only one I could find. You are clearly confident on this point. Fair enough but I personally believe in data for something invasive like this.
No Everything went perfect with the supras, no implant showing no weird stuff.
Who was your surgeon?
My eyes are also buggy. Do orbicularis oculi training 3 sets to failure and keep on raising reps every 2 days
Dr.Mario Pagnoni, he designed them with a company and not with Giant.
Thank you alot for your response, this means alot for me because i was also thinking to just go with Dr.Pagnoni without Liam designing the implants.
your down slant is still present in your eyes why is that? cantho doesnt work? again u improved alot but the eye area still is average the eyeball itself creates an effect of dropping / hollow because implants don’t change the bone present before you only paste that shit onto it
This looks like shit ngl not sure if its design issue or for some people implants will just look bad
I think it's a combinations of 2 things, bad implant placement and big design.
He was not even that recessed to need implants there imo , jaw implants and a genio would prob ascend him much more i think.
The idea is that he had trimax, i don't recall on him getting gonion implants though.
Arent these exercises just cope. They won’t make my eyes deeper set, im looking for plastic surgery recommendations mainly
Get surgery to get almond eyes, not deepest eyes
