What surgeries for my side

[iblamemygenes]

Fully unfrauded side

 

[iblamemygenes]

Bump

 

[iblamemygenes]

Bump

 

[iblamemygenes]

Bump

 

[normie_joe]

Fully unfrauded side View attachment 3646303

Terrible fucking question.

You should know well by now what you specifically want addressed.

Better question would be "I don't like x feature, how do I fix it?"

 

[iblamemygenes]

Terrible fucking question.

You should know well by now what you specifically want addressed.

Better question would be "I don't like x feature, how do I fix it?"

ok, I by no means have the best forward growth but I’d say it’s pretty decent, my nasion isn’t recessed, but my paransal is and my nasal base is sunken in, my lower third is weak too.

 

[Clown Show]

 

[iblamemygenes]

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Nigga fr

 

[normie_joe]

ok, I by no means have the best forward growth but I’d say it’s pretty decent, my nasion isn’t recessed, but my paransal is and my nasal base is sunken in, my lower third is weak too.

I saw you comment on my bimax thread, I was actually making some morphs for you.

For the paranasal and to get that midface fullness you got two options: implants(significantly less risk) and lefort 1.

The lefort 1 has so many risks and adverse effects you may not like.

Thing about lefort and bsso that most people don't understand is it's dependent on the teeth as well.

But, should you go down the lefort 1 and bsso route, you can get a somewhat similar result to this

However be warned of the risks.
The first is your upper lip. You could end up with this type of lip because they advanced your upper jaw too much.

Second is you could be dogmaxxed because your jaws protrude past your forehead already.

Third is you could have giga wide nostrils from the front that an alar cinch will only mitigate, not negate.

I suggest sticking with the paranasal implants and a bsso by having an orthodontist create a big artificial overjet(premolars may have to be removed).

If you choose a lefort route, you may still need your premolars removed, but only do about 3-4mm movement at most on the upper jaw.

 

[iblamemygenes]

I saw you comment on my bimax thread, I was actually making some morphs for you.

For the paranasal and to get that midface fullness you got two options: implants(significantly less risk) and lefort 1.

The lefort 1 has so many risks and adverse effects you may not like.

Thing about lefort and bsso that most people don't understand is it's dependent on the teeth as well.

But, should you go down the lefort 1 and bsso route, you can get a somewhat similar result to this

View attachment 3646352

However be warned of the risks.
The first is your upper lip. You could end up with this type of lip because they advanced your upper jaw too much.


View attachment 3646359View attachment 3646361

Second is you could be dogmaxxed because your jaws protrude past your forehead already.

View attachment 3646363

Third is you could have giga wide nostrils from the front that an alar cinch will only mitigate, not negate.

I suggest sticking with the paranasal implants and a bsso by having an orthodontist create a big artificial overjet(premolars may have to be removed).

If you choose a lefort route, you may still need your premolars removed, but only do about 3-4mm movement at most on the upper jaw.

Can I get bsso without a Lefort? I want my lower lip to catch up. Also do I need ccw or a downgraft, and should I get infra implants as well?

 

[psychomandible]

Bimax

 

[iblamemygenes]

Can I get bsso without a Lefort? I want my lower lip to catch up. Also do I need ccw or a downgraft, and should I get infra implants as well?

@normie_joe

 

[normie_joe]

Can I get bsso without a Lefort? I want my lower lip to catch up. Also do I need ccw or a downgraft, and should I get infra implants as well?

If you have a big enough overjet with your teeth.

If you have a 5mm overjet, your surgeon can move your lower jaw 4mm forward. Add in a 3 mm lefort to that, now the surgeon can move your lower jaw 7mm. Subtract 1mm from the total distance because your upper jaw always needs to stay in front.

CCW is dependent on your occlusal plane and if the surgeon is willing to do such a procedure. Not every surgeon can or will do CCW with a posterior downgraft.

 

[normie_joe]

@normie_joe

I think you'll be safe with like a very conservative 2-3mm lefort. The little the movement, the better.

 

[Zzure]

Terrible fucking question.

You should know well by now what you specifically want addressed.

Better question would be "I don't like x feature, how do I fix it?"

bruda came to flex

 

[normie_joe]

bruda came to flex

Flexing what?

 

[normaler_rasista]

Reincarnation

 

[heightmaxxing]

Nothing. Your side profile is good. Surgery should only be used when failos are massive and you have no major failos. If you want to get something maybe midface implants.

 

[iblamemygenes]

Nothing. Your side profile is good. Surgery should only be used when failos are massive and you have no major failos. If you want to get something maybe midface implants.

Which midface implants in particular

 

[heightmaxxing]

Which midface implants in particular

Looking at your side again midface implant are the wrong solution. Your upper Maxilla is projected. I dont think you need any surgeries for your side profile.

 

[3links2]

I saw you comment on my bimax thread, I was actually making some morphs for you.

For the paranasal and to get that midface fullness you got two options: implants(significantly less risk) and lefort 1.

The lefort 1 has so many risks and adverse effects you may not like.

Thing about lefort and bsso that most people don't understand is it's dependent on the teeth as well.

But, should you go down the lefort 1 and bsso route, you can get a somewhat similar result to this

View attachment 3646352

However be warned of the risks.
The first is your upper lip. You could end up with this type of lip because they advanced your upper jaw too much.


View attachment 3646359View attachment 3646361

Second is you could be dogmaxxed because your jaws protrude past your forehead already.

View attachment 3646363

Third is you could have giga wide nostrils from the front that an alar cinch will only mitigate, not negate.

I suggest sticking with the paranasal implants and a bsso by having an orthodontist create a big artificial overjet(premolars may have to be removed).

If you choose a lefort route, you may still need your premolars removed, but only do about 3-4mm movement at most on the upper jaw.

any surgery that involves moving maxilla is too high risk if u dont have legit deformities, just stick to implants, you dont have any outstanding failos, anything else is high-risk low reward

 

[TheMadi]

If you have a big enough overjet with your teeth.

If you have a 5mm overjet, your surgeon can move your lower jaw 4mm forward. Add in a 3 mm lefort to that, now the surgeon can move your lower jaw 7mm. Subtract 1mm from the total distance because your upper jaw always needs to stay in front.

CCW is dependent on your occlusal plane and if the surgeon is willing to do such a procedure. Not every surgeon can or will do CCW with a posterior downgraft.

It doesn’t work like that buddy the dentist will have to push your teeth back to align with each other or on the other hand he’ll have to extract some teeth

 

[normie_joe]

It doesn’t work like that buddy the dentist will have to push your teeth back to align with each other or on the other hand he’ll have to extract some teeth

That's literally what they did to me.