What surgeries make most sense for me to ascend? Included pics

[unaiav25]

Ok so the 3 that come to mind would be orbital rim augmentation to fix vertical optical dystopia - this is where ur eyes are asymmetrical because one eye sits higher/lower than the other. This is not to be confused with orbital box ostetomy which is way more extreme. Rim augmentation is basically just using an implant to canofljage the assymetry.

2. Some kind of jaw surgery like a lefort to correct narrow lower third

3. Rhinoplasty focusing on the tip of my nose to make it harmonize with my other features more.

I am conflicted about the orbital thing because I was speaking to a guy some kind of looksmaxxing influencer called wando and he said that jaw surgery would correct the eye assymetry because my jaw is crooked and that actually I wouldn’t need orbital implants if I just corrected the jaw. I will post a screenshot of our conversation to show what I mean, I’m not sure how right he is on this. I also have a crossbite where my top teeth don’t sit straight on the bottom teeth, this is also what the guy wando was referring to about the whole crooked jaw thing. I know this was a lot of info so I really appreciate any help I just want a clear plan for where to start surgically

 

[unaiav25]

@RealSurgerymax

I would love to hear ur take on this. Is the guy right in that the eye assymetry is being caused by a jaw issue, or would it need to be addressed directly wirh orbital implants?

 

[unaiav25]

@vermicel

Can u help on this?

 

[nishka]

you look good but you need to keep an eye on that hair
hope on dutasteride asap and also get braces / fix your teeth and also whiten them

 

[unaiav25]

you look good but you need to keep an eye on that hair
hope on dutasteride asap and also get braces / fix your teeth and also whiten them

I was considering palate expansion to fix the cross bite and possible aesthetic benefits. Structurally tho what surgeries do u think would make most sense for me?

 

[unaiav25]

@Austrian Mogger

Can y help?

 

[tyler1234]

Marpe the lefort or 3 piece segmental

 

[cocosiewa0]

Ok so the 3 that come to mind would be orbital rim augmentation to fix vertical optical dystopia - this is where ur eyes are asymmetrical because one eye sits higher/lower than the other. This is not to be confused with orbital box ostetomy which is way more extreme. Rim augmentation is basically just using an implant to canofljage the assymetry.

2. Some kind of jaw surgery like a lefort to correct narrow lower third

3. Rhinoplasty focusing on the tip of my nose to make it harmonize with my other features more.

I am conflicted about the orbital thing because I was speaking to a guy some kind of looksmaxxing influencer called wando and he said that jaw surgery would correct the eye assymetry because my jaw is crooked and that actually I wouldn’t need orbital implants if I just corrected the jaw. I will post a screenshot of our conversation to show what I mean, I’m not sure how right he is on this. I also have a crossbite where my top teeth don’t sit straight on the bottom teeth, this is also what the guy wando was referring to about the whole crooked jaw thing. I know this was a lot of info so I really appreciate any help I just want a clear plan for where to start surgically

Alar base reduction, forehead reduction, infra and supraorbital fat grafting

 

[unaiav25]

Alar base reduction, forehead reduction, infra and supraorbital fat grafting

Thank you. This is the surgery that Dr Eppley does for people with vertical optical dystopia, should I pursue this to make my eyes more level? giant also said he can do it and wouldn’t need to do orbital floor implant just the rim, as my eyes are dark so nobody would see the pupil dystopia

The Seven Layers Of Vertical Orbital Dystopia (VOD) Surgery - Explore Plastic Surgery

The multiple procedures potentially needed for VOD surgery correction are described.

exploreplasticsurgery.com

 

[unaiav25]

Marpe the lefort or 3 piece segmental

What about something for my eyes do u not think the assymetry is affecting my looks significantly?

 

[unaiav25]

Bump

 

[tyler1234]

What about something for my eyes do u not think the assymetry is affecting my looks significantly?

I can’t even tell really unless u look closely maybe u have asymmetrical jaws . I’d fix ur jaws then do so on

 

[senram]

second wandos advice

 

[unaiav25]

second wandos advice

U think the eyes would look better by correcting jaw?

 

[bjebb007]

Hair transplant, alar base reduction. You will ascend if you just fix your hair!! Make sure to take meds for your hair too after the transplant

 

[bululu_87]

Do I get lefort

 

[unaiav25]

Hair transplant, alar base reduction. You will ascend if you just fix your hair!! Make sure to take meds for your hair too after the transplant

How about jaw?

 

[zemult]

How about jaw?

You don't have a narrow lower third. Your jaw is a strong point actually

You'll benefit most from a rhino and orbital implants/fat grafting

And fixing the hair. Don't be worried about muh asymmetry jfl

 

[HumanTitanium]

https://looksmax.org/threads/reason-why-you-have-any-assymetry.1256051/

The linked post by @lurking truecel points out that the cross bite you have likely contributes to the asymmetry.

I've talked to a surgeon about this, and you will need a CT scan to make sure but I do think jaw surgery would help with it

 

[good_king_alex]

Do I get lefort

chin filler boiiiiiiiiiiii

 

[unaiav25]

You don't have a narrow lower third. Your jaw is a strong point actually

You'll benefit most from a rhino and orbital implants/fat grafting

And fixing the hair. Don't be worried about muh asymmetry jfl

Do u not think that some kind of unevenness in the jaw is contributing to the eye assymetry?

 

[unaiav25]

You don't have a narrow lower third. Your jaw is a strong point actually

You'll benefit most from a rhino and orbital implants/fat grafting

And fixing the hair. Don't be worried about muh asymmetry jfl

https://looksmax.org/threads/reason-why-you-have-any-assymetry.1256051/

The linked post by @lurking truecel points out that the cross bite you have likely contributes to the asymmetry.

I've talked to a surgeon about this, and you will need a CT scan to make sure but I do think jaw surgery would help with it

If I get a CT scan would I definitely be able to confirm whether the cross bite is causing the eye assymetry? What type of jaw surgery would fix it?

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

What about something for my eyes do u not think the assymetry is affecting my looks significantly?

It effects your looks for sure

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

Facial symmetry is checked subconsciously

 

[unaiav25]

Facial symmetry is checked subconsciously

Do u think it would likely require orbital rim augmentation to fix or is there any truth to the idea of the crossbite indirectly causing eye assymetry, meaning if I fixed that by jaw surgery that would correct the eyes?

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

Do u think it would likely require orbital rim augmentation to fix or is there any truth to the idea of the crossbite indirectly causing eye assymetry, meaning if I fixed that by jaw surgery that would correct the eyes?

It could be either really, your eyes could just be naturally asymmetrical

 

[unaiav25]

It could be either really, your eyes could just be naturally asymmetrical

Thanks man, do u know any other high iq users who j could tag in this to get their insights. im new to this site.

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

Thanks man, do u know any other high iq users who j could tag in this to get their insights. im new to this site.

@tomahawk @mohi_100 @Knight @BR32 deez guys r highiq

 

[BR32]

Unfortunately I don't know much about surgery other than that I'm a candidate for implants

 

[Knight]

Ok so the 3 that come to mind would be orbital rim augmentation to fix vertical optical dystopia - this is where ur eyes are asymmetrical because one eye sits higher/lower than the other. This is not to be confused with orbital box ostetomy which is way more extreme. Rim augmentation is basically just using an implant to canofljage the assymetry.

2. Some kind of jaw surgery like a lefort to correct narrow lower third

3. Rhinoplasty focusing on the tip of my nose to make it harmonize with my other features more.

I am conflicted about the orbital thing because I was speaking to a guy some kind of looksmaxxing influencer called wando and he said that jaw surgery would correct the eye assymetry because my jaw is crooked and that actually I wouldn’t need orbital implants if I just corrected the jaw. I will post a screenshot of our conversation to show what I mean, I’m not sure how right he is on this. I also have a crossbite where my top teeth don’t sit straight on the bottom teeth, this is also what the guy wando was referring to about the whole crooked jaw thing. I know this was a lot of info so I really appreciate any help I just want a clear plan for where to start surgically

deffo rhinoplasty due to you having an upturned nose, consider a hairtransplant to reduce the large upper third/forehead also for the teeth as long as there are no malocclusions just get invisalign and potentially veneers, i dont think u require jaw surgery, also for palatal expansion send a picture of ur upper palate

 

[Knight]

Ok so the 3 that come to mind would be orbital rim augmentation to fix vertical optical dystopia - this is where ur eyes are asymmetrical because one eye sits higher/lower than the other. This is not to be confused with orbital box ostetomy which is way more extreme. Rim augmentation is basically just using an implant to canofljage the assymetry.

2. Some kind of jaw surgery like a lefort to correct narrow lower third

3. Rhinoplasty focusing on the tip of my nose to make it harmonize with my other features more.

I am conflicted about the orbital thing because I was speaking to a guy some kind of looksmaxxing influencer called wando and he said that jaw surgery would correct the eye assymetry because my jaw is crooked and that actually I wouldn’t need orbital implants if I just corrected the jaw. I will post a screenshot of our conversation to show what I mean, I’m not sure how right he is on this. I also have a crossbite where my top teeth don’t sit straight on the bottom teeth, this is also what the guy wando was referring to about the whole crooked jaw thing. I know this was a lot of info so I really appreciate any help I just want a clear plan for where to start surgically

lefort doesnt really fix the narrow lower jaw its mainly for the upper jaw advancement and even if ur referring to bimax it just advances both jaws not necessarily making it wider

 

[unaiav25]

deffo rhinoplasty due to you having an upturned nose, consider a hairtransplant to reduce the large upper third/forehead also for the teeth as long as there are no malocclusions just get invisalign and potentially veneers, i dont think u require jaw surgery, also for palatal expansion send a picture of ur upper palate

Is this a clear enough pic? I’m pretty sure I have a cross bite with the pic I posted where like the top set of teeth don’t align properly with the bottom set. So when I grit my teeth it’s kinda slanted. Do u think palate expansion like FME could make a big difference to my face? And how about the rim augmentation to make my eyes more symmetrical? I’m just conflicted because that wando guy was convinced it would correct if I fixed my jaw so obviously I don’t want to get unnessaeu procedures on my eyes if it could be corrected by jaw surgery

 

[Knight]

Is this a clear enough pic? I’m pretty sure I have a cross bite with the pic I posted where like the top set of teeth don’t align properly with the bottom set. So when I grit my teeth it’s kinda slanted. Do u think palate expansion like FME could make a big difference to my face? And how about the rim augmentation to make my eyes more symmetrical? I’m just conflicted because that wando guy was convinced it would correct if I fixed my jaw so obviously I don’t want to get unnessaeu procedures on my eyes if it could be corrected by jaw surgery

u have a pretty good palatal width and imw, you do not need palatal expansion ma brotha, and that wando nga ive seen him on streams hes a schizo druggy u shouldnt really trust what he says, ive seen clips of the guy sniffing pregnant womens asses or smthing, about the asymmetrical eyes im pretty sure its smthing to do w ur sphenoid bone

 

[unaiav25]

u do not have a pretty good palatal width and imw, you do not need palatal expansion ma brotha, and that wando nga ive seen him on streams hes a schizo druggy u shouldnt really trust what he says, ive seen clips of the guy sniffing pregnant womens asses or smthing, about the asymmetrical eyes im pretty sure its smthing to do w ur sphenoid bone

I’m a bit confused I said I do not have a good palate width so I don’t need palate expansion? Or did u mean I do have a good palate width? Was that a typo. But yeah a rhino is one of the surgeries I’m very set on

 

[Knight]

I’m a bit confused I said I do not have a good palate width so I don’t need palate expansion? Or did u mean I do have a good palate width? Was that a typo. But yeah a rhino is one of the surgeries I’m very set on

shi mb lemme edit the msg rq

 

[unaiav25]

shi mb lemme edit the msg rq

Thanks bro. Do u think a rhino alone would ascend me significantly?

 

[Knight]

Thanks bro. Do u think a rhino alone would ascend me significantly?

100%

 

[unaiav25]

100%

Do u know any surgeons that has a good reputation on here for rhino? Maybe based in Europe if u know any

 

[Knight]

Do u know any surgeons that has a good reputation on here for rhino? Maybe based in Europe if u know any

no clue ma brotha sorry, havent really looked into that tbh

 

[HumanTitanium]

If I get a CT scan would I definitely be able to confirm whether the cross bite is causing the eye assymetry? What type of jaw surgery would fix it?

I'm honesty not an expert to know all of this, but it would help determine if it's soft tissue vs skeletal related is what a surgeon told me about my eye asymmetry. Double jaw surgery should help fix it, assuming it fixes the bite and no other rotation is required.

 

[Soter]

deffo rhinoplasty due to you having an upturned nose

It's not very uptuned, his nasolabial angle is not too open to be a failo. His main issue with the nose is the bulbosity of the tip and that it is overall a bit too big/strong but not tragically so. If he derotated his nose with a septal graft the projection would increase as well btw

 

[Knight]

It's not very uptuned, his nasolabial angle is not too open to be a failo. His main issue with the nose is the bulbosity of the tip and that it is overall a bit too big/strong but not tragically so. If he derotated his nose with a septal graft the projection would increase as well btw

he does have a bulbous tip and his nasolabial angle is past 95° and is pretty obtuse so yes it is upturned

 

[Soter]

he does have a bulbous tip and his nasolabial angle is past 95° and is pretty obtuse so yes it is upturned

if it's less than 105-110 it's fine

 

[unaiav25]

U seem high IQ. What surgeries would u say make most sense for me?

if it's less than 105-110 it's fine

 

[Soter]

U seem high IQ. What surgeries would u say make most sense for me?

hair transplant
maybe rhino but try to shrink it with accutane first

 

[unaiav25]

hair transplant
maybe rhino but try to shrink it with accutane first

Do u not think any kind of orbital augmentation to fix the eye asymmetry? It’s hard to know how much of a flaw that is in other eye’s

 

[zemult]

It effects your looks for sure

His asymmetry itself is not at a noticeable level.

What you're actually seeing subconsciously, instead of muh eye asymmetry, is:

- Bad orbitals
- Unideal PFL
- T50 eyes

 

[zemult]

If I get a CT scan would I definitely be able to confirm whether the cross bite is causing the eye assymetry? What type of jaw surgery would fix it?

Probably not. You should look into getting a crossbite corrected regardless though. Get CT scans and talk to an orthodontist

 

[LEFORT17]

Probably not. You should look into getting a crossbite corrected regardless though. Get CT scans and talk to an orthodontist

ur smart

 

[unaiav25]

Probably not. You should look into getting a crossbite corrected regardless though. Get CT scans and talk to an orthodontist

His asymmetry itself is not at a noticeable level.

What you're actually seeing subconsciously, instead of muh eye asymmetry, is:

- Bad orbitals
- Unideal PFL
- T50 eyes

Which specific eye surgeries would u recommend then? Sorry, u said orbital implants earlier and fat grafting. Can u clarify? Do u think Eppley’s VOD correction surgery (which is orbital rim augmentation with additional soft tissue work like eyelids to accommodate the implant) - would be good? Just wanna clarify what eye surgeries u meant