What Women Actually Find Attractive - Macken Murphy - An evolutionary biologist at Oxford University

[MakinItHappen]

The timestamps.

The ones I'd recommend morons that are deluded here are ''why we are drawn to faces' and 'what makes an eye attractive'.

Evolutionary Science > PSL autism is TRUE black pill. None of this high HTN, low HTN bullshit.

 

[Deleted member 84661]

Health indicators and dimorphism mostly

 

[MakinItHappen]

It's about what your FACE SAYS ABOUT YOU. For instance a MTN or HTN might not have the most attractive Chad like features, but what they do have is facial averageness and facial averageness is an indicator for social success, granted the man doesn't ACT wildly autistic, this facial averageness can be the building block to ones expression of their personality.

Every face has a personality type that people assign it to.

Then that feedback loop kind of structures your personality.

 

[Deleted member 84661]

It's about what your FACE SAYS ABOUT YOU. For instance a MTN or HTN might not have the most attractive Chad like features, but what they do have is facial averageness and facial averageness is an indicator for social success, granted the man doesn't ACT wildly autistic, this facial averageness can be the building block to ones expression of their personality.

Every face has a personality type that people assign it to.

Then that feedback loop kind of structures your personality.

Obv, face determines personality

 

[MakinItHappen]

Obv, face determines personality

And Macken goes into more depth in the video. I recommend watching it rather than shit-posting for empty dopamine hits.

 

[Deleted member 84661]

And Macken goes into more depth in the video. I recommend watching it rather than shit-posting for empty dopamine hits.

Its like 2 hours long dude maybe i will listen to it while at work

 

[hopecel]

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The timestamps.

The ones I'd recommend morons that are deluded here are ''why we are drawn to faces' and 'what makes an eye attractive'.

Evolutionary Science > PSL autism is TRUE black pill. None of this high HTN, low HTN bullshit.

women find attractive what their casual fuckers have

if you settle down as a betabuxxer it doesn't mean you're actually attractive to them

 

[SwissArms]

Not a word

 

[Deleted member 29041]

..........

 

[moreroidsmoredates]

Is it worth watching?

 

[jrdanmaxxing]

tldr anyone?

 

[Giorgio]

now that you're on the topic of evolutionary psychology, all that's left to discover is that men were never meant to compete amongst each other based on "beauty" & try to "attract"

that's why modern dating is such a failure, it's completely on it's head

 

[Deleted member 29041]

Here is true facts.

- Women likes muscle if u are already attractive.
- Eye shape is more important than any other features in eyes.
- More facial averagness u have.... less failo u have.
- Masculine face make women concern if they look ogre tier
- Height is important.
- Beard looks good on men if they are already attractive.

 

[DNRDniggerking]

now that you're on the topic of evolutionary psychology, all that's left to discover is that men were never meant to compete amongst each other based on "beauty" & try to "attract"

that's why modern dating is such a failure, it's completely on it's head

you mean we're all rapists and only the strongest/more capable to rape is who's desired the most?

 

[DNRDniggerking]

didnt watch, bluepill ramblings or water is wet

 

[Giorgio]

you mean we're all rapists and only the strongest/more capable to rape is who's desired the most?

I wouldn't take the rape angle right away, but I think it's clear by now that the female ability to choose their male mates is abysmal and has probably been employed in our evolution to a significant degree

a reply to clarify this would probably take pages of writing and I CBA, but today we live in conditions that are so far removed form the conditions we evolved in (in the social sense, aka tribalism etc) that it's no wonder it's fucked

just take the natural tendency of humans to see women as a group that needs to be protected - worked in tribes 200 000 years ago, but now? it has turned on men and caused them to lose the gender war tremendously

because while men are biologically wired to love & care for women, women don't feel any such compulsion towards men

 

[DNRDniggerking]

I wouldn't take the rape angle right away, but I think it's clear by now that the female ability to choose their male mates is abysmal and has probably been employed in our evolution to a significant degree

a reply to clarify this would probably take pages of writing and I CBA, but today we live in conditions that are so far removed form the conditions we evolved in (in the social sense, aka tribalism etc) that it's no wonder it's fucked

just take the natural tendency of humans to see women as a group that needs to be protected - worked in tribes 200 000 years ago, but now? it has turned on men and caused them to lose the gender war tremendously

because while men are biologically wired to love & care for women, women don't feel any such compulsion towards men

today's situation is definitely far from how nature orginally was, but female preferences are hardwired and set in stone so no couple of hundred years of civilzation and technology is going to change that, what happened is that we gave them freedom to choose and hence they will choose what they they ACTUALLY find attractive: the ooga booga high T bonemaster chad thundercock. no place for incels in nature

 

[lestoa]

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The timestamps.

The ones I'd recommend morons that are deluded here are ''why we are drawn to faces' and 'what makes an eye attractive'.

Evolutionary Science > PSL autism is TRUE black pill. None of this high HTN, low HTN bullshit.

i hate male podcasts dnrd
literally only white male retarded redpill andrew tate fucktards do podcasts

 

[lestoa]

Here is true facts.

- Women likes muscle if u are already attractive.
- Eye shape is more important than any other features in eyes.
- More facial averagness u have.... less failo u have.
- Masculine face make women concern if they look ogre tier
- Height is important.
- Beard looks good on men if they are already attractive.

thank you so much

 

[Giorgio]

what happened is that we gave them freedom to choose and hence they will choose what they they ACTUALLy find attractive: the ooga booga high T bonemaster chad thundercock

and how is that working out? is that working out even for them?
I feel like most of the time women aren't even attracted to men, maybe only during specific parts of their cycle only & about a guy that's super above average (or a guy who crosses their high disgust threshold & also one that's so above average that she feels she "got a good deal")

but my question would be: are they even aroused by the man himself? aka do they see the man as the object of desire, or are they aroused from the fact that a top % guy is into them & is giving them attention?

when you read what female porn/romance novels are about, it's always about some insanely top % guy giving attention to a mid female MC that is a self insert

women don't seem to follow any of the behaviors of gay men: they don't watch porn much, they don't seem to be interested in anything physical that men possess like the physique or the dick (except height lol but that might as well be a marker for social status/worth & her getting a better deal in her head than other women)

instead, almost everything women do when it comes to sex and men is very selfish and narcissistic, to women it always comes back to them & how it benefits them
I honestly believe that women see men as just tools, be it in regular life, or when it comes to sex

 

[autistic_tendencies]

NT is law

 

[ectomorpher]

NT is law

you can’t be NT if you are ugly

 

[DNRDniggerking]

but my question would be: are they even aroused by the man himself? aka do they see the man as the object of desire, or are they aroused from the fact that a top % guy is into them & is giving them attention?

I think about this all the time.

sometimes I believe the equation is much simpler than we make it out to be.

we are built to go around and procreate with the goal of spreading our seed, thats what makes us men, desire to make kids everywhere, women use this as leverage, if you wanna procreate with her then you have to give something in return, the better you are as a man socially and physically the more things you'll be able to offer, its literally just about them and them only, they just wanna survive, and survive well.

maybe they care about your genetics so much, is because they wanna have sons that are similar to you, who'll take care of her aswell when she grows old. so to conclude, maybe they think the world just revolves around them

 

[autistic_tendencies]

you can’t be NT if you are ugly

Explain all the normal looking retards with decent girls

 

[DNRDniggerking]

normal looking

 

[ectomorpher]

Explain all the normal looking retards with decent girls

normal looking is not ugly

 

[Giorgio]

I think about this all the time.

sometimes I believe the equation is much simpler than we make it out to be.

we are built to go around and procreate with the goal of spreading our seed, thats what makes us men, desire to make kids everywhere, women use this as leverage, if you wanna procreate with her then you have to give something in return, the better you are as a man socially and physically the more things you'll be able to offer, its literally just about them and them only, they just wanna survive, and survive well.

maybe they care about your genetics so much, is because they wanna have sons that are similar to you, who'll take care of her aswell when she grows old. so to conclude, maybe they think the world just revolves around them

yes, they never evolved strong attraction for men like men did for women
they evolved the need to procreate (baby rabies), like all living organisms

they also evolved to judge & want men based on (I believe) three things:
- the mans physical competence
- social competence
- his existing resources
(and somewhere below these 3 categories come looks, but I don't think they ever were a main component)

notice how all three things are only important in a primitive tribal society where women literally cannot provide for themselves - so now that women can make as much money (if not more due to their social female privileges) as men, there is nothing to compel women to men anymore

so men have to rely on the bad, inefficient "looks" strategy which depends entirely on female libido, and her natural attraction to men - both of which are quite low, evolutionarily, and when you add in the societal feminist man hating programming to the equation, the result is that it's literally over for men

even the men that "win", what do they win? a hypocritical, man-hating bitch? that wants them to be their tool?
niggas are seriously competing for the permission to be someone's slave JFL

 

[autistic_tendencies]

normal looking is not ugly

Very few people are legitimately ugly

 

[DNRDniggerking]

yes, they never evolved strong attraction for men like men did for women
they evolved the need to procreate (baby rabies), like all living organisms

they also evolved to judge & want men based on (I believe) three things:
- the mans physical competence
- social competence
- his existing resources
(and somewhere below these 3 categories come looks, but I don't think they ever were a main component)

notice how all three things are only important in a primitive tribal society where women literally cannot provide for themselves - so now that women can make as much money (if not more due to their social female privileges) as men, there is nothing to compel women to men anymore

so men have to rely on the bad, inefficient "looks" strategy which depends entirely on female libido, and her natural attraction to men - both of which are quite low, evolutionarily, and when you add in the societal feminist man hating programming to the equation, the result is that it's literally over for men

even the men that "win", what do they win? a hypocritical, man-hating bitch? that wants them to be their tool?
niggas are seriously competing for the permission to be someone's slave JFL

true. I ask myself "how did our leaders allow this to slowly happen over the centuries?"
and then remember the reasons why blackpillers are always paranoid, it is because they know humans are not to be trusted with anything because they'll always fall trap to their natural instincts, the simp nature of men has allowed us to handover society to women on a gold plate, all natural checks and balances have been messed with to an unmeasurable degree

 

[DNRDniggerking]

Very few people are legitimately ugly

ltn and below is ugly and unfuckable to women

 

[autistic_tendencies]

ltn and below is ugly and unfuckable to women

Cope bro

 

[ectomorpher]

Very few people are legitimately ugly

ltn and below is ugly and unfuckable to women

 

[Giorgio]

true. I ask myself "how did our leaders allow this to slowly happen over the centuries?"
and then remember the reasons why blackpillers are always paranoid, it is because they know humans are not to be trusted with anything because they'll always fall trap to their natural instincts, the simp nature of men has allowed us to handover society to women on a gold plate, all natural checks and balances have been messed with to an unmeasurable degree

I don't think it was preventable
the only way it would have been prevented was if the human society never entered the industrial revolution or progressed past it
unfortunately technology is very good at replacing men's best strengths (mostly physical), but it does not diminish women's advantages (social, reproductive/sexual)
women have a strong natural in-group bias, while men not only don't have in group bias, they have an outright out-group bias (the only other group being women obv)

and the way feminists played their hand was also almost perfect - they exploited the fuck out of the existing evolutionary biases, twisted & rewritten history to seem as if women only have been oppressed (instead of the truth which is that life was shit for everyone in the dark ages, even more so for men), they have tapped into women natural dislike and negative bias of men & their lower logical and more emotional thinking by spreading demented feeling/fear based propaganda (aka a woman gets raped in india - all men at fault!), they conducted tons of social studies with methodology so bad that it would be fair to outright call them fake (aka rape statiscis - obviously women are going to be 99% of rape victims when your own movement made sure that the law is written in such a way that men cannot be victims or the one about men "leaving" their sick wives where they counted every man as "left" when his wife dies OR when they dropped out of the study)

they later often retract the studies, but headlines have already been made, and the horde of brainrotted tiktok feminists are outraged and hate men even more

just look at the type of a mindset women have these days:

while men have been designed to love women, women literally hate men so much that they are openly calling out for brutal murder of men and nobody even finds this wrong

the male gender is so cooked it's not even funny

 

[Giorgio]

and then you have niggas on this site or in general doing everything they can, changing their entire lives & who they are all for the goal of *being allowed* to be a personal simp for one of these creatures

 

[DNRDniggerking]

I don't think it was preventable
the only way it would have been prevented was if the human society never entered the industrial revolution or progressed past it
unfortunately technology is very good at replacing men's best strengths (mostly physical), but it does not diminish women's advantages (social, reproductive/sexual)
women have a strong natural in-group bias, while men not only don't have in group bias, they have an outright out-group bias (the only other group being women obv)

and the way feminists played their hand was also almost perfect - they exploited the fuck out of the existing evolutionary biases, twisted & rewritten history to seem as if women only have been oppressed (instead of the truth which is that life was shit for everyone in the dark ages, even more so for men), they have tapped into women natural dislike and negative bias of men & their lower logical and more emotional thinking by spreading demented feeling/fear based propaganda (aka a woman gets raped in india - all men at fault!), they conducted tons of social studies with methodology so bad that it would be fair to outright call them fake (aka rape statiscis - obviously women are going to be 99% of rape victims when your own movement made sure that the law is written in such a way that men cannot be victims or the one about men "leaving" their sick wives where they counted every man as "left" when his wife dies OR when they dropped out of the study)

they later often retract the studies, but headlines have already been made, and the horde of brainrotted tiktok feminists are outraged and hate men even more

just look at the type of a mindset women have these days:
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while men have been designed to love women, women literally hate men so much that they are openly calling out for brutal murder of men and nobody even finds this wrong

the male gender is so cooked it's not even funny

its so over its actually funny

 

[Bomber517]

Bones

 

[Tenshi]

I don't think it was preventable
the only way it would have been prevented was if the human society never entered the industrial revolution or progressed past it
unfortunately technology is very good at replacing men's best strengths (mostly physical), but it does not diminish women's advantages (social, reproductive/sexual)
women have a strong natural in-group bias, while men not only don't have in group bias, they have an outright out-group bias (the only other group being women obv)

and the way feminists played their hand was also almost perfect - they exploited the fuck out of the existing evolutionary biases, twisted & rewritten history to seem as if women only have been oppressed (instead of the truth which is that life was shit for everyone in the dark ages, even more so for men), they have tapped into women natural dislike and negative bias of men & their lower logical and more emotional thinking by spreading demented feeling/fear based propaganda (aka a woman gets raped in india - all men at fault!), they conducted tons of social studies with methodology so bad that it would be fair to outright call them fake (aka rape statiscis - obviously women are going to be 99% of rape victims when your own movement made sure that the law is written in such a way that men cannot be victims or the one about men "leaving" their sick wives where they counted every man as "left" when his wife dies OR when they dropped out of the study)

they later often retract the studies, but headlines have already been made, and the horde of brainrotted tiktok feminists are outraged and hate men even more

just look at the type of a mindset women have these days:
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while men have been designed to love women, women literally hate men so much that they are openly calling out for brutal murder of men and nobody even finds this wrong

the male gender is so cooked it's not even funny

at some point all this joke will end and men will put and end to the female era, society can't work this way for long

people will be thinking damn can you believed we actually lived in a world where women had choices, could vote and say all kinds of shit?

but this will take time and for now we're doomed to live in the cuck world.

 

[Giorgio]

at some point all this joke will end and men will put and end to the female era, society can't work this way for long

people will be thinking damn can you believed we actually lived in a world where women had choices, could vote and say all kinds of shit?

but this will take time and for now we're doomed to live in the cuck world.

no this will never happen
like I said, men are simps & women already have more voting power
as women penetrate more and more into traditionally male dominated fields & politics, the last thing that men have, which is the ability to earn money will die

a male boss will always hire and promote a cute young woman over a guy
what will a female boss do? lol she will hire and promote the woman as well due to their hatred of men & bias towards women

now think what will happen when a high % of jugdes will become female?
what about teachers and staff in university? oh wait that one has already happened, and the male college attendance is LOWER THAN IT EVER WAS FOR WOMEN

as men are locked out of higher education by anti-male establishment, how will the male gender fare in the future?

no, the only way this ends is when technology and science progress so far that the human species will be unrecognizable & all our natural instincts and behaviours become obsolete

 

[Tenshi]

no this will never happen
like I said, men are simps & women already have more voting power
as women penetrate more and more into traditionally male dominated fields & politics, the last thing that men have, which is the ability to earn money will die

a male boss will always hire and promote a cute young woman over a guy
what will a female boss do? lol she will hire and promote the woman as well due to their hatred of men & bias towards women

now think what will happen when a high % of jugdes will become female?
what about teachers and staff in university? oh wait that one has already happened, and the male college attendance is LOWER THAN IT EVER WAS FOR WOMEN

as men are locked out of higher education by anti-male establishment, how will the male gender fare in the future?

no, the only way this ends is when technology and science progress so far that the human species will be unrecognizable & all our natural instincts and behaviours become obsolete

the time frame in which women had any significant power in society in human history is negligible.

Men will thrive in the same manner as they have done for all human history. It's a cycle. An old, obsolete and malfunctioning world order will be substituted by a new one, made of strong men. It has always been this way. Decadent societies fall and give birth to new ones.

Do you think it mattered how many women are in the academic field in Iran before the revolution? It's like ok, we are the new guys, now you wear a burka and go have children.

Transition won't be made through democratic means, but by force. Hence why it'll take time. We probably won't see it in our lifetime.

 

[Giorgio]

the time frame in which women had any significant power in society in human history is negligible.

Men will thrive in the same manner as they have done for all human history. It's a cycle. An old, obsolete and malfunctioning world order will be substituted by a new one, made of strong men. It has always been this way. Decadent societies fall and give birth to new ones.

no, unless we regress technologically to ancient times

technology replaces women's need of men, I went over this already in my earlier comment

Do you think it mattered how many women are in the academic field in Iran before the revolution?

specific situation, at a specific time and at a specific place
nothing like that will ever happen in europe, or in the US

Transition won't be made through democratic means, but by force

lol and who has "the force"? is it you? or incels on the internet?

or is it the shadow government that are controlling the puppets that are said to be our leaders? doesen't the puppeteer benefit from a majority female vote?

who is easier to influence by propaganda? men or women?

 

[DR. NICKGA]

.

 

[Tenshi]

no, unless we regress technologically to ancient times

technology replaces women's need of men, I went over this already in my earlier comment

specific situation, at a specific time and at a specific place
nothing like that will ever happen in europe, or in the US


lol and who has "the force"? is it you? or incels on the internet?

or is it the shadow government that are controlling the puppets that are said to be our leaders? doesen't the puppeteer benefit from a majority female vote?

who is easier to influence by propaganda? men or women?

You seem to have great faith in our current order, ''nothing like that will ever happen in europe or in the us''

europe was literally in a massive war not even 80 years ago and everything changed afterwards. The US is not even 250 years old. The roman republic lasted twice that.

People don't need votes when there's no democracy. Nor they care about opinions, judges when they have guns. Plus you think technology means something on it's own. Do you think you'd even have a cellphone had not the government allowed the usage of certain technologies comercially?

Doesn't matter, it's whoever's up there deciding things. You could have all tech in the world, by itself it won't do shit for you, we don't live in a vacuum.

 

[Deleted member 59122]

NT is law

 

[ivan.kuk]

now that you're on the topic of evolutionary psychology, all that's left to discover is that men were never meant to compete amongst each other based on "beauty" & try to "attract"

that's why modern dating is such a failure, it's completely on it's head

almost every species has males that compete for females

 

[ivan.kuk]

and how is that working out? is that working out even for them?
I feel like most of the time women aren't even attracted to men, maybe only during specific parts of their cycle only & about a guy that's super above average (or a guy who crosses their high disgust threshold & also one that's so above average that she feels she "got a good deal")

but my question would be: are they even aroused by the man himself? aka do they see the man as the object of desire, or are they aroused from the fact that a top % guy is into them & is giving them attention?

when you read what female porn/romance novels are about, it's always about some insanely top % guy giving attention to a mid female MC that is a self insert

women don't seem to follow any of the behaviors of gay men: they don't watch porn much, they don't seem to be interested in anything physical that men possess like the physique or the dick (except height lol but that might as well be a marker for social status/worth & her getting a better deal in her head than other women)

instead, almost everything women do when it comes to sex and men is very selfish and narcissistic, to women it always comes back to them & how it benefits them
I honestly believe that women see men as just tools, be it in regular life, or when it comes to sex

i'm gonna sound bluepilled but not all women are like this. I'm not in the US, so it might be different here. Talking from some experience here, too.

 

[MakinItHappen]

now that you're on the topic of evolutionary psychology, all that's left to discover is that men were never meant to compete amongst each other based on "beauty" & try to "attract"

that's why modern dating is such a failure, it's completely on it's head

Lol, you are so wrong. Men have been chosen on height and build for donkeys centuries. Survival. Hunter gatherer times? Resources (Money) is only just one way of ensuring a better life for a woman's off-spring.

Having someone that can hunt and come back with food is the most primal shit ever.

 

[infini]

None of this high HTN, low HTN bullshit.

Yeah how does a High high tier normie or Low High tier normie even happen? It's so sheepish to think this way that whoever wrote those as the quoted initials only never obviously read it out to themselves to actually understand it themselves.

 

[Dathomirian Zabrak]

SOYENCE. keep scrolling on org till die

 

[hopecel]

Cope bro

greycels clearly have no clue what NTness is

it's literally the most important thing in every male's life

 

[Giorgio]

i'm gonna sound bluepilled but not all women are like this. I'm not in the US, so it might be different here. Talking from some experience here, too.

I don't think *all* women are this, it's definitely a gradient...

for example the women that are in the "women awed by chad on omegle" edits, or the women that are matching the felons on tinder experiments are on one end of the scale (and also are the women which the entire "blackpill" is based, but on the other hand you have women that do not experience arousal from external sources, especially men - those are usually the couples where the guy is significantly uglier than the woman...

but regarding the former category, it's not a high % - if it was, we'd see a lot more behaviour from women that resembles gay men, but to me it seems most women see men as a kindof asexual being, and if the man makes himself explicitly sexualized, they thing it's outrageous, or funny (male nudity in movies is often played for laughs, if it was a female, it would never work), or outright disgusting...