What would you u guys run to improve frame during puberty

[mltn2mtn]

What would you guys recommend, I’m 5”7, with a long neck, narrow clavicles, small hands, and skinny wrists very little muscle definition. I don’t want to run test, but I’m willing to run anything else tbh.

Dads 6”2 moms 5”0.5 grandpas r 5”10, 6”1, and grandmas r both 5”5.

 

[dragomog]

gh
trt dose test
tren

 

[mltn2mtn]

gh
trt dose test
tren

You think 6 iu of gh + aromasin would be a good start or no? I just don’t want to experience any ear/nose growth, my ears are already protruding.

 

[Topkra]

Gym nigga gym

 

[dragomog]

You think 6 iu of gh + aromasin would be a good start or no? I just don’t want to experience any ear/nose growth, my ears are already protruding.

i dont know about gh much

dont do AI without test though its legit pointless and does more harm then good

 

[mltn2mtn]

Gym nigga gym

Gym would only cover up my shitty frame, I’d still be short with long limbs

 

[dragomog]

Gym nigga gym

gym doesnt grow bones fucktard

 

[mltn2mtn]

i dont know about gh much

dont do AI without test though its legit pointless and does more harm then good

My growth plates are still open though, I don’t want to speed them up and prematurely close them w gh

 

[mltn2mtn]

gym doesnt grow bones fucktard

Yeah tbh my face is alright, I got a hltn front hmtn side

 

[dragomog]

My growth plates are still open though, I don’t want to speed them up and prematurely close them w gh

gh does not speed up growth plate closure

if it did how the fuck would lowering estrogen help if estrogen isnt the one causing it for you and its the gh?

 

[Topkra]

gym doesnt grow bones fucktard

Well no shit?
You can't grow bones naturally
Only way is frauding

 

[mltn2mtn]

gh does not speed up growth plate closure

if it did how the fuck would lowering estrogen help if estrogen isnt the one causing it for you and its the gh?

Estrogen is what closes ur growth plates, suppressing it would prevent ur plates from closing. Ai is legit used to keep growth plates open for a prolonged period of time

 

[dragomog]

Estrogen is what closes ur growth plates, suppressing it would prevent ur plates from closing. Ai is legit used to keep growth plates open for a prolonged period of time

ur estrogen is more then likely normal without being on exogenous testosterone

crashing it weakens bones and they wont grow if ur estrogen is crashed

and again if u dont do test and only do gh, how would AI help when gh has nothing to do with estrogen or testosterone?

 

[mltn2mtn]

ur estrogen is more then likely normal without being on exogenous testosterone

crashing it weakens bones and they wont grow if ur estrogen is crashed

and again if u dont do test and only do gh, how would AI help when gh has nothing to do with estrogen or testosterone?

Hgh can raise estrogen levels it’s a simple google search.

 

[dragomog]

Hgh can raise estrogen levels it’s a simple google search.

first time hearing this
probably doesnt actually do anything significant idk

how does it affect it though when its not an androgen?

 

[itsovermaxxer]

HGH 8iu ed
IGF-1 LR3 100mcg ed

AI if needed (check ur bloods)

AAS cycle 1: 8wks 300 test (+ AI), 8wks 500 test + AI
cycle 2: 8wks 400 test 200 mast, 8wks 400 test 200 mast; 25 var (daily)
cycle 3: 8wks 400 test 100 NPP 100 mast, 400 test 200 NPP 200 mast

Combine this with skin peptides of your choice (mt2/ghk) and healing (bpc/tb500)

Gymmax, sleepmax, nutritionmax + vitamins

 

[mltn2mtn]

first time hearing this
probably doesnt actually do anything significant idk

how does it affect it though when its not an androgen?

Idk google says it speeds up the conversion of testerone to estrogen.

My friend has been on hgh for 3-4 years and when he first hopped on he got really really bad gyno.

 

[dragomog]

Idk google says it speeds up the conversion of testerone to estrogen.

My friend has been on hgh for 3-4 years and when he first hopped on he got really really bad gyno.

yeah i dont know about this im not looking into hgh
google could absolutely be wrong tho it always gives bullshit when it comes to gear

 

[mltn2mtn]

yeah i dont know about this im not looking into hgh
google could absolutely be wrong tho it always gives bullshit when it comes to gear

Nah most people run hgh + an ai on here bc it does raise estrogen levels

 

[insignia_]

You think 6 iu of gh + aromasin would be a good start or no? I just don’t want to experience any ear/nose growth, my ears are already protruding.

Fix your nose and ears with surgery in the future if they do grow on gh

 

[mltn2mtn]

Fix your nose and ears with surgery in the future if they do grow on gh

You can’t fix abnormally large ears + face is law imo do the risks outweigh the concerns. Also hard maxxing never really goes to plan

 

[insignia_]

You can’t fix abnormally large ears + face is law imo do the risks outweigh the concerns. Also hard maxxing never really goes to plan

Ear reduction surgeries exist.

 

[hypertrophic]

just bonesmash ur clavs