What you can expect in the dating scene as a normie

[copingvolcel]

The thing I realized just recently about being a normie is it doesn't mean you get no women, it just means you don't attract the hot stacies you're probably aiming for. But you probably attract LTB and at best MTB, but if like me, you have high standards, you might just reject them thinking it would be a waste, that you deserve the really hot girls.

And also, over the years I quickly realized that relationships a huge pain to deal with, you have the drama, the risk of being cheated on, the co-dependency, the money spent, the time spent, the overall commitment of having to meet her family regularly, the pressure of getting married, the pressure of having children, the risk of accidentally impregnating her, the risk of her having mental issues she didn't know about or hid from you, and that's just scratching the surface of all the risks you have to deal with.

And in the end, what do you have as a reward for all this stress, hassle and time investment?

A bit of sex once in a while maybe (like a few times per week or every day if you live together maybe), until you get married and have kids and stop having sex for the rest of your life, except maybe once a year if you're lucky. But people don't mind that because the focus of the relationship is always the romance aspect, but I've never cared about that except when I was like 12-13.


And, as men, it's our duty to make the first move of asking women out, and getting them into bed, and then it's their duty to make sure we commit to them, that's how it has gone down for all of time.

But me personally I don't see the point in going through the trouble of asking LTB and MTB out on dates and going through all the sacrifices just for sex with a girl I'm not even that attracted to, and romance that I'm not really interested in. Instead, I generally just jerk off to a HTB or stacy pornstar and that takes care of the issue. If I desperately needed romantic love, I would feel lonely but I don't. I've seen guys in the Nofap community saying that the high standards are a result of watching too much porn, so what they do is they don't jerk off and after like 4 months of abstinence, they get so desperate they end up hooking up with an obese woman, and they quickly regret it afterwards. You would think that post nut clarity only happens in porn but no, and when it happens with a real girl I think it would be much worse.

Some would say I'm coping. Truth is, I see people I know who are in relationships, and I'm glad I'm not them, I'm glad I don't have to deal with all this drama for almost nothing, I'm happy for them but I would never want to be them. However, I am still looksmaxxing, mainly gymmaxxing, because I think it will make me more likely to get to a point where I can easily hookup with HTB and stacies regularly in maybe 1-3 years. That has always been a goal of mine of filling out my frame and slaying, but if my expectations don't become a reality when I do fill out my frame, at least I will have a great physique and that is enough of an achievement for me.

 

[Rea]

dnr and to answer you: nothing

 

[copingvolcel]

dnr and to answer you: nothing

I meant to say, as a normie, I've been getting a few opportunities with LTB and MTB but I've never felt motivated enough to actually go through with them because I'm not really attracted to them, except when I'm really horny. And I'm not interested in the romance aspect anyways.

The only thing I'm interested in doing is hooking up, but as a normie the only way to hookup is to either pay for sex or pump and dump LTB and MTB (by faking interest for a relationship), both of which are options I'm not really interested in.


When people say it's all about the face, they're right. But I've also seen gymmaxxed normies do very well in dating, even when they were short. So what I'm aiming for is to be fully gymmaxxed with a filled out 6'4" frame at like 225-230 lbs without being too fat.

 

[Rea]

I meant to say, as a normie, I've been getting a few opportunities with LTB and MTB but I've never felt motivated enough to actually go through with them because I'm not really attracted to them, except when I'm really horny. And I'm not interested in the romance aspect anyways.

The only thing I'm interested in doing is hooking up, but as a normie the only way to hookup is to either pay for sex or pump and dump LTB and MTB (by faking interest for a relationship), both of which are options I'm not really interested in.


When people say it's all about the face, they're right. But I've also seen gymmaxxed normies do very well in dating, even when they were short.

Same i got some shit with LTB and MTB some years ago and tbh that's the max you can go unless you're super lucky

And yes

I mean it's all about the face and the body is preference tbh, so if a girl really really like muscular body even if the guy is MTN she might date him even if she's prettier, this happened plenty of times

 

[copingvolcel]

Same i got some shit with LTB and MTB some years ago and tbh that's the max you can go unless you're super lucky

And yes

I mean it's all about the face and the body is preference tbh, so if a girl really really like muscular body even if the guy is MTN she might date him even if she's prettier, this happened plenty of times

True, some girls definitely don't care about muscles, though I'd say on average, most do care about muscles, some even enjoy pro-bodybuilder level muscles like what Chris Bumstead has, though they are generally not the majority. The majority of women do find a physique like what Chris Hemsworth has to be extremely attractive.
(Actors are generally good looking but sometimes they're not that much and the muscles really ascend them)

The one factor I haven't mentioned is guys who make like six figures, which is not that difficult to achieve when you've been in the same career path for like 5-10 years (depending on the field), they generally can get stacy wives even if they themselves are like LTN or below. You'd think they would be cucks but generally they're not, they do get to have sex, the women are not crazy about them but they do get laid. In the case of hookups, some pump and dump pretty successfully. The risk is higher than when you have nothing to lose (when poor) though obviously.

 

[Rea]

True, some girls definitely don't care about muscles, though I'd say on average, most do care about muscles, some even enjoy pro-bodybuilder level muscles like what Chris Bumstead has, though they are generally not the majority. The majority of women do find a physique like what Chris Hemsworth has to be extremely attractive.
(Actors are generally good looking but sometimes they're not that much and the muscles really ascend them)

The one factor I haven't mentioned is guys who make like six figures, which is not that difficult to achieve when you've been in the same career path for like 5-10 years (depending on the field), they generally can get stacy wives even if they themselves are like LTN or below. You'd think they would be cucks but generally they're not, they do get to have sex, the women are not crazy about them but they do get laid. In the case of hookups, some pump and dump pretty successfully. The risk is higher than when you have nothing to lose (when poor) though obviously.

yeah money is everything

 

[copingvolcel]

yeah money is everything

Yes except obviously the guy with money doesn't get the same quality of sex as the guy who is genuinely sexually attractive. I guess it depends on what is important to you. But a lot of guys also are delusional and believe their wife really loves them for them even though if they were to lose their job and income, the woman would leave them in the dirt pretty fast.