What's the ideal FWHR and the ideal ESR?

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Title. Mine is 1.87 and ESR 0.465. What's the ideal
 
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0.46 supposedly
 
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My esr is 0.47 and fwhr 1.92

Dont know ideals
 
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My avi is ideal
 
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1.88 is ideal imo - chico's
 
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I measured chico and it's lower than that. How do you measure it?
its bs because it varies tremendously depending on the person camera distance
 
its bs because it varies tremendously depending on the person camera distance
I measured it from the top of the eyebrows to the top of the lip and it appears mpwer than 1.8 on every picture
 
I measured it from the top of the eyebrows to the top of the lip and it appears mpwer than 1.8 on every picture
it will change according to pic, only way to measure is with a rule, what is not easy becausse the ideal ratios arent measured like that
 
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but es ratio (Varies less between pics) ideal is 0.46 to 0.47. 0.45 and 0.48 is acceptable
 
it will change according to pic, only way to measure is with a rule, what is not easy becausse the ideal ratios arent measured like that
Can you measure mine in PMs pls
 
Es ratio 0.46 and around 1.9 for FWHR
But you have to consider that es ratio is an assymetric ratio, having a low es ratio will hurt you much more than having a high one, especially considering that with a decent pfl you can get away with ridiculous measurements (Gandy have .52 Es ratio and Atesh Salih also have a rather high esr for instance) while it's much harder the other way around.

That being said your ratios are very good, work on your individual features (get bimax and infraorbitals implants first) and you will be good.
 
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Es ratio 0.46 and around 1.9 for FWHR
But you have to consider that es ratio is an assymetric ratio, having a low es ratio will hurt you much more than having a high one, especially considering that with a decent pfl you can get away with ridiculous measurements (Gandy have .52 Es ratio and Atesh Salih also have a rather high esr for instance) while it's much harder the other way around.

That being said your ratios are very good, work on your individual features (get bimax and infraorbitals implants first) and you will be good.
I need to fix my failos somewhat naturally since I will never do surgery. Hope my face grows some bones. Brb praying to Gandy
 
I need to fix my failos somewhat naturally since I will never do surgery. Hope my face grows some bones. Brb praying to Gandy
do you have a monkey upper lip?

after my liplift I will go from 1.92 to 1.99 of fwhr
 
Es ratio 0.46 and around 1.9 for FWHR
But you have to consider that es ratio is an assymetric ratio, having a low es ratio will hurt you much more than having a high one, especially considering that with a decent pfl you can get away with ridiculous measurements (Gandy have .52 Es ratio and Atesh Salih also have a rather high esr for instance) while it's much harder the other way around.

That being said your ratios are very good, work on your individual features (get bimax and infraorbitals implants first) and you will be good.
wrong
 
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Yeah lmao its not 0.52 but 0.48, not in the "ideal" range but still pretty good thanks to his long pfl
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Yeah lmao its not 0.52 but 0.48, not in the "ideal" range but still pretty good thanks to his long pfl View attachment 2108882
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He have 0.51 here iirc and got measured several times above 0.49 on some pics and is regularily used as an example of outlier for a high es ratio (same with Depp for a low one).

He have a 68mm IPD and a narrowish face, the only way to have a ideal esr with such a high ipd would be to have much wider zygos which wouldn't look good on him obviously.
And neither of you disproved my point that a high es ratio is much more forgiving than a low one.
 
My fwhr is 2.4
It is ogre for me
 
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