Whats the lowest tier you gotta be for online dating

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I hear you have to be at least top 20 percent but does that even get you high mtbs+ or by then you're getting matched with whale ogres
 
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5'10+ MTN (fraud to 6ft+) with frauded pics for an occasional LTB and rarely LMTB if lucky. It's convenient but very inflated standards wise.
 
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5'10+ MTN (fraud to 6ft+) with frauded pics for an occasional LTB and rarely LMTB if lucky. It's convenient but very inflated standards wise.
I'm 6'1 low MTN
But holy fucking shit that's fucking awful
What about LTR?
 
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Htn
 
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5'10+ MTN (fraud to 6ft+) with frauded pics for an occasional LTB and rarely LMTB if lucky. It's convenient but very inflated standards wise.
I forgot to mention it depends where you are. If you're in a rural area you will likely get better looking women occasionally but the matches themselves are much rarer. In big cities you're competing against Chad so don't expect much, but at least there might be a few desperate LTBs.
 
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low subhuman, just be yourself
 
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Dating apps are useless if u aren’t above mtn
 
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I'm 6'1 low MTN
But holy fucking shit that's fucking awful
What about LTR?
Not sure about LTR specifically. But I made an account once because I was curious and all the regular dudes were typically at least MTN, of course almost all were frauded but the competition isn't easy. Good height and your face isn't terrible but IDK if i'd rely on online dating only.
 
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Not sure about LTR specifically. But I made an account once because I was curious and all the regular dudes were typically at least MTN, of course almost all were frauded but the competition isn't easy. Good height and your face isn't terrible but IDK if i'd rely on online dating only.
What about IRL?
 
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Not sure about LTR specifically. But I made an account once because I was curious and all the regular dudes were typically at least MTN, of course almost all were frauded but the competition isn't easy. Good height and your face isn't terrible but IDK if i'd rely on online dating only.
How often did you find HTNs and cls btw
 
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How often did you find HTNs and cls btw
I think I maybe saw a low CL or two? Not many , it's still rare but I don't live near any big cities so I'm sure it's not rare at all when you're by one. I would say maybe 15% of the guys were solid LHTN+ when frauded but I didn't see more than 15% below MTN, maybe LMTN either.
 
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Its very nuanced based off where you are and where you can meet women. Can you give me any kinda basic info about where you live?
As of now I live in a conservative third world shithole the average here I'd say is high LTN at best and low MTB for women
But I'll be continuing my studies in Europe hopefully
 
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As of now I live in a conservative third world shithole the average here I'd say is high LTN at best and low MTB for women
But I'll be continuing my studies in Europe hopefully
With countries like that it tends to be a lot easier to get by without great looks, and the women tend not to be as bitchy and masculine but you also struggle without family or social connections and they tend to look worse in general.

If you're planning to look for an LTR there I would not worry too much about your looks level and focus on building social status and finding connections. I'm assuming you're quite tall for your country if you're third world and 6'1 which is a nice boost. Make sure you actually get or plan for a good stable job.

In Europe you get the chance for better looking, more open women but (depending on the region) they're quite a bit more looks focused and your competion is more like the average guy being a 5'11 MTN rather than a 5'7 LTN. But the actual region in Europe will dictate your experience a lot, if you tell me what country or area (West, southern, central, balkan, eastern, northern etc) I can help you better.
 
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low htn
 
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With countries like that it tends to be a lot easier to get by without great looks, and the women tend not to be as bitchy and masculine but you also struggle without family or social connections and they tend to look worse in general.

If you're planning to look for an LTR there I would not worry too much about your looks level and focus on building social status and finding connections. I'm assuming you're quite tall for your country if you're third world and 6'1 which is a nice boost. Make sure you actually get or plan for a good stable job.

In Europe you get the chance for better looking, more open women but (depending on the region) they're quite a bit more looks focused and your competion is more like the average guy being a 5'11 MTN rather than a 5'7 LTN. But the actual region in Europe will dictate your experience a lot, if you tell me what country or area (West, southern, central, balkan, eastern, northern etc) I can help you better.
I'll be studying in western/northern Europe because that's where the best universities for cs are at
Countries we're considering are belgium, Germany, France, and Netherlands because I speak the languages spoken there
 
I'll be studying in western/northern Europe because that's where the best universities for cs are at
Countries we're considering are belgium, Germany, France, and Netherlands because I speak the languages spoken there
So the good news is there is some good looking, very socially liberal/open women there, the bad news is the majority are absolute whores and some definitely lean towards the Chad only side especially for LTR. Also your salary has to be legit very impressive to really be seen as an attractive one because of how expensive Western Europe is. So, decent for hookups if you're LMTN+, 5'9+ (like you are), very bleak if you're looking for LTR.

The city depends a lot but the majority of those countries cities have a TON of unattractive sandcels flooding them which lowers the usually fairly good average of the natives down a bit. But you'll still certainly be competing with 6ft+ HTNs+ fairly often. It's just going to be a matter of putting yourself out a lot.
 
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So the good news is there is some good looking, very socially liberal/open women there, the bad news is the majority are absolute whores and some definitely lean towards the Chad only side especially for LTR. Also your salary has to be legit very impressive to really be seen as an attractive one because of how expensive Western Europe is. So, decent for hookups if you're LMTN+, 5'9+ (like you are), very bleak if you're looking for LTR.

The city depends a lot but the majority of those countries cities have a TON of unattractive sandcels flooding them which lowers the usually fairly good average of the natives down a bit. But you'll still certainly be competing with 6ft+ HTNs+ fairly often. It's just going to be a matter of putting yourself out a lot.
Mirin, can I DM you for advice about my look?
 
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Mirin, can I DM you for advice about my look?
Sure man, I'm pretty bad at giving specific advice (not a looksmaxxing expert) but if you want basic advice or a rating I can do that
 
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