Whats the point of PCT with SARMS?

[Deleted member 10176]

What is the point if SARMS don't aromatize???

 

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[gamma]

Lol pct is used to restore the natural T production because Sarms suppress it

That's why it's needed

 

[quakociaptockh]

Pituary gland does not contain T receptor, only E receptors, but it still reacts to T even in complete absence of E. Probably T cross-activates the E receptors in pituary gland.

Moral: there's no thing that will not shutdown you.

 

[Chad69]

Lol pct is to restore the natural T production because Sarms suppress it

That's why it's needed

You can recover from sarms easily without a PCT,unless your T was already low

 

[gamma]

You can recover from sarms easily without a PCT,unless your T was already low

Well that's true, but I think that with pct you can recover better

 

[Deleted member 10176]

You can recover from sarms easily without a PCT,unless your T was already low

Ashwaganda?

Im about to blast rad140 and mk677 like you

 

[Chad69]

Ashwaganda?

Im about to blast rad140 and mk677 like you

Sure ashwaganda helps but I didn’t used mk667 I only used rad140

 

[Deleted member 10176]

Sure ashwaganda helps but I didn’t used mk667 I only used rad140

Did you have bad effects after the cycle other than your nose??

 

[Deleted member 439]

nose??

wut

 

[Deleted member 10176]

wut

His nose grew a lot during his rad140 cycle jfl

 

[Julian]

His nose grew a lot during his rad140 cycle jfl

how tf is a thing that works on ur androgen receptors(rad 140) suddenly gonna give you a big nose. also 1 of the worst ones for hairloss after yk-11, which technically isn't a sarm

 

[TakaTeo]

What is the point if SARMS don't aromatize???

holy shit you are retarded for the love of god research into compounds before you cycle them. sarms still suppress your test and can very easily put you in double digit test levels, some can cause gyno (we don't fucking know why its some shit to do with it acting on the receptors) and will fuck your libido up if you arent smart. you should run nolva/clomid/enclomphine last 4 weeks of cycle to help w supression and then properly pct.
pls research or enjoy ur fucked libido and worsened depression

 

[Deleted member 10176]

how tf is a thing that works on ur androgen receptors(rad 140) suddenly gonna give you a big nose. also 1 of the worst ones for hairloss after yk-11, which technically isn't a sarm

but if I take mk677 at the same time, hairloss won't happen right??

 

[Deleted member 10176]

holy shit you are retarded for the love of god research into compounds before you cycle them. sarms still suppress your test and can very easily put you in double digit test levels, some can cause gyno (we don't fucking know why its some shit to do with it acting on the receptors) and will fuck your libido up if you arent smart. you should run nolva/clomid/enclomphine last 4 weeks of cycle to help w supression and then properly pct.
pls research or enjoy ur fucked libido and worsened depression

It CAN give you gyno and it CAN give you low libido and it CAN give you depression


CAN CAN CAN

 

[TakaTeo]

It CAN give you gyno and it CAN give you low libido and it CAN give you depression


CAN CAN CAN

yes, because there are multiple types of sarms and multiple different dose choices people go with, you fucking tard. sure you might not need a pct on 12.5mgs of ostarine but its STILL SUPRESSIVE, ALL SARMS ARE SUPRESSIVE and being suppressed needs sorting out.

 

[Julian]

but if I take mk677 at the same time, hairloss won't happen right??

Thats not how it works?

 

[Deleted member 10176]

Thats not how it works?

Well im only 16 so I should be good if I do PCT right??

 

[Julian]

Well im only 16 so I should be good if I do PCT right??

rip growthplates

 

[Deleted member 10176]

rip growthplates

Another user here said SARMS target bone growth?

 

[Julian]

Another user here said SARMS target bone growth?

density

 

[potentialhabit1]

how tf is a thing that works on ur androgen receptors(rad 140) suddenly gonna give you a big nose. also 1 of the worst ones for hairloss after yk-11, which technically isn't a sarm

its the mk 677, it made my nose bigger too

 

[potentialhabit1]

if u take sarms at 16 years old u gonna regret that shit bro

 

[Julian]

its the mk 677, it made my nose bigger too

ofc its the mk677

 

[potentialhabit1]

bare minimum just take the mk 677, even then it doesn't come without negatives, its definitely better for you than rad tho

im telling u right now suppressing your natural androgens at your age without at least replacing them is gonna be catastrophic for you

look up "vigorous steve wada approved peds" take all of those that he talks about, they will actually increase your performance by increasing testosterone production and honestly you'll probably get more gains than the rad anyway, and you wont even need to think about side effects

if u want u COULD put in a small amount of an AI a couple times a week to keep estrogen lower so u don't aromatise all ur increased androgens, not only with this decrease estrogen slightly but it will increase testosterone significantly as well. aromasin is preferred for this 6.25mg Monday and Thursday

all of this combined with ACTUALLY eating food will make u so alpha at ur age

im talking go to the store and buy eggs, ground beef, ground turkey, lean fish, rice and vegetables to fuck, cook and eat that every two hours and drink a gallon of water a day, avoid fast food bro that shit is just toxic and will increase fat mass and just increase estrogen.

also take creatine, it is the single greatest natural performance supplement mankind has ever found

 

[Deleted member 10176]

bare minimum just take the mk 677, even then it doesn't come without negatives, its definitely better for you than rad tho

im telling u right now suppressing your natural androgens at your age without at least replacing them is gonna be catastrophic for you

look up "vigorous steve wada approved peds" take all of those that he talks about, they will actually increase your performance by increasing testosterone production and honestly you'll probably get more gains than the rad anyway, and you wont even need to think about side effects

if u want u COULD put in a small amount of an AI a couple times a week to keep estrogen lower so u don't aromatise all ur increased androgens, not only with this decrease estrogen slightly but it will increase testosterone significantly as well. aromasin is preferred for this 6.25mg Monday and Thursday

all of this combined with ACTUALLY eating food will make u so alpha at ur age

im talking go to the store and buy eggs, ground beef, ground turkey, lean fish, rice and vegetables to fuck, cook and eat that every two hours and drink a gallon of water a day, avoid fast food bro that shit is just toxic and will increase fat mass and just increase estrogen.

also take creatine, it is the single greatest natural performance supplement mankind has ever found

Thank you so much man.

I just want to get ripped this summer before the next school year (11 weeks from now). Thats why I wanted RAD140 because I heard the benefits come really fast.

Ok so I just looked at steves video and it makes sense but im not that rich lol I cant spend more than $200 total on anything so again, thats why a RAD and MK value pack (130$) was my first choice.

Im not really good at comprehension, but is there ANYTHING i can take with the RAD140 that will prevent the surpessed androgens???

 

[Deleted member 10176]

@potentialhabit1 sorry if your busy but heres a ping

 

[potentialhabit1]

Im not really good at comprehension, but is there ANYTHING i can take with the RAD140 that will prevent the surpessed androgens???

enclomiphene - 12.5 mg every other day

i still recommend u don't take the sarm but do as u will.

 

[Deleted member 10176]

12.5 mg every other day

During the cycle or after it?

 

[Chad69]

Did you have bad effects after the cycle other than your nose??

Nah I didn’t
And nose growth was mostly placebo

 

[potentialhabit1]

During the cycle or after it?

during, ive seen bloodwork of people doing this and not only does it prevent suppression it sends their free testosterone through the roof, it may not result in more gains tho because i believe rad has a higher binding affinity to the receptor knocking all the T off into circulation, i don't know how hair safe that is but its what people do to prevent suppression on sarms

 

[Deleted member 10176]

Nah I didn’t
And nose growth was mostly placebo

So was your RAD140 cycle worth it? List benefits you got and the negatives

 

[Deleted member 10176]

during, ive seen bloodwork of people doing this and not only does it prevent suppression it sends their free testosterone through the roof, it may not result in more gains tho because i believe rad has a higher binding affinity to the receptor knocking all the T off into circulation, i don't know how hair safe that is but its what people do to prevent suppression on sarms

Its crazy what men have to do in 2021 to get laid JFL

also thanks for your advice

 

[potentialhabit1]

Its crazy what men have to do in 2021 to get laid JFL

also thanks for your advice

yea bro all things considered I still think you're making a mistake taking rad

 

[Chad69]

So was your RAD140 cycle worth it? List benefits you got and the negatives

I gained 8kgs and completely fucked up my collagen + got bloated in my face

 

[Deleted member 10176]

yea bro all things considered I still think you're making a mistake taking rad

I see what your saying but a lot of unbiased sources say otherwise.

 

[Deleted member 10176]

fucked up my collagen + got bloated in my face

Permanently?

 

[Chad69]

Permanently?

It took some time to get better but I haven’t fully recovered my skin nor bloat yet

 

[Deleted member 4562]

some can cause gyno (we don't fucking know why its some shit to do with it acting on the receptors)

They have a very high binding affinity so it diverts the very little test that you do still have to aromatize into estrogen, which can throw off your ratio and cause gyno, at least that is the bro forum explanation.

I see what your saying but a lot of unbiased sources say otherwise.
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Kid your 16 you have literally no idea what the fuck you're talking about or doing. Listen to me, do not take ANYTHING that will fuck with your hormones other than MK-677 at your age. I would say maybe an AI if you wanted to get experimental but based on your replies you are a dumbass and will not understand any of it and probably fuck yourself up.

What until you are at least early 20's before fucking with any AAS/SARMs and even then only do them when you are absolutely certain you understand all of the mechanisms behind what you are taking.