What's the point of steriods and sarms

[JeremyMeeks]

Ok, I have been lifting on and off for 4+ years. Not looking to get into steroids but may look into sarms.

I literally have no idea how steroids and sarms work - what I mean is that why would you take something just for temporary gains? Do you still keep some muscle mass post cycle because ideally I want to have a good physique off cycle - if so, how much muscle retention is there (%)?

 

[dingodongo]

They say you retain as much your natural potential is if you keep working out hard. Everything else slowly fades away. I don't know anyone who has been able to hold onto roid gains after stopping cycling for good.

To retain gains you can maintain with a lower TRT-ish or larger dosage (cruise) and the run another cycle. That's a lifelong commitment. Or you come off and get back on before you've lost it all.

 

[JeremyMeeks]

They say you retain as much your natural potential is if you keep working out hard. Everything else slowly fades away. I don't know anyone who has been able to hold onto roid gains after stopping cycling for good.

To retain gains you can maintain with a lower TRT-ish or larger dosage (cruise) and the run another cycle. That's a lifelong commitment. Or you come off and get back on before you've lost it all.

That's a bit shit then lol. Same true with sarms? Could I do one cycle and retain at least 20-30% of gains made in that cycle?

 

[Soulrack]

This is what I asked myself before, there is no point in taking steroids if you lose a majority of the gains anyways

 

[Deleted member 5393]

Thats why you stay on them FOR LIFE

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Roids and sarms are waste of money

 

[Unbound]

if you do decide to do steroids it's best to blast and cruise

 

[MewingJBP]

Roids and sarms are waste of money

sarms yes, roids no

 

[Deleted member 5799]

Life when you are on steroids is like comparing driving a Prius vs driving a 300hp car.

Its the hidden truth in the fitness scene, when you finally try them you understand how hugely important they are and everybody is using. Its hard to not want to try them many times, so careful if you are prone to having addictions.

Benefits:

Increased stamina - You feel like you can train all day
Increased strength - No more plateaus, the weights you lift increase dramatically every week
Increased libido (very) - Sex becomes your only reason to live, add cialis and you are the god of sex
Increased energy - I can sleep less than 5 hours and wake up fresh
Increased sense of well-being - Feel in better mood, great self confidence...

Chance of causing issues on health:

Cardiovascular - Increased blood pressure and risk of stroke
Fertility - Chance of becoming sterile
Liver - Mostly with orals
Erectile disfunction - On post cycle therapy you might temporally experience difficulties
Hormone system - You are playing with it on every cycle
Mental - Developing addictions, bad anger management...

Side effects can be controlled and depending on dosages and substances it can be pretty safe but that doesnt mean you are immortal.

edit: Sorry i forgot about keeping the gains. Theres many kinds of compounds, some will give you a lot of water weight that you will end up pissing when you are done. Will you get muscle gains? Of course that too, but they are more... "volatile".

"Dry" compounds such as turinabol, anavar and primobolan give you slower steady gains but very keepable. So you can choose, either blowup fast and then lose part of it or have a bit less gains (still a lot faster than natural) and keep 90% or 95% of them. For me, second option is my way to do it. Also safest, since these compounds have less chances of giving you side effects.


Dont be one of those who want to use multiple substances like crazy... just testosterone alone is pretty awesome by itself.

Not promoting the use, but if you are 100% convinced... at least let me give you some advice: Read, read and read about steroids and their use for months before starting.








I can tell you a lot about steroids, just dont ask me where to buy them.

 

[Seth Walsh]

cop outs, harmony minimizers and increases insecurity showcasing

 

[MewingJBP]

Benefits:

Increased stamina - You feel like you can train all day
Increased strength - No more plateaus, the weights you lift increase dramatically every week
Increased libido (very) - Sex becomes your only reason to live, add cialis and you are the god of sex
Increased energy - I can sleep less than 5 hours and wake up fresh
Increased sense of well-being - Feel in better mood, great self confidence..

At what doses do you get these benefits? Would high normal range trt be enough?

 

[Deleted member 5799]

At what doses do you get these benefits? Would high normal range trt be enough?

Standard dose for first timers is 500mg testosterone. Dont let the "first timer" part deceive you! 500mg test does wonders.
Experienced users (meatheads and amateurs) may add an oral as a kickstart or finisher, plus another injectable.
Bodybuilding competitors will add insulin, trenbolone, growth hormone, diuretics... (this level is pure obsession and risk)

Bear in mind that my style of doing it is "better safe than sorry" and i prefer slower keepable gains more than blowing up and losing half of gains after, so any other user could disagree in some parts. You choose who to trust.

But back to what i said, read a lot of information before using, please.

 

[dingodongo]

Life when you are on steroids is like comparing driving a Prius vs driving a 300hp car.

Its the hidden truth in the fitness scene, when you finally try them you understand how hugely important they are and everybody is using. Its hard to not want to try them many times, so careful if you are prone to having addictions.

Benefits:

Increased stamina - You feel like you can train all day
Increased strength - No more plateaus, the weights you lift increase dramatically every week
Increased libido (very) - Sex becomes your only reason to live, add cialis and you are the god of sex
Increased energy - I can sleep less than 5 hours and wake up fresh
Increased sense of well-being - Feel in better mood, great self confidence...

Chance of causing issues on health:

Cardiovascular - Increased blood pressure and risk of stroke
Fertility - Chance of becoming sterile
Liver - Mostly with orals
Erectile disfunction - On post cycle therapy you might temporally experience difficulties
Hormone system - You are playing with it on every cycle
Mental - Developing addictions, bad anger management...

Side effects can be controlled and depending on dosages and substances it can be pretty safe but that doesnt mean you are immortal.

edit: Sorry i forgot about keeping the gains. Theres many kinds of compounds, some will give you a lot of water weight that you will end up pissing when you are done. Will you get muscle gains? Of course that too, but they are more... "volatile".

"Dry" compounds such as turinabol, anavar and primobolan give you slower steady gains but very keepable. So you can choose, either blowup fast and then lose part of it or have a bit less gains (still a lot faster than natural) and keep 90% or 95% of them. For me, second option is my way to do it. Also safest, since these compounds have less chances of giving you side effects.


Dont be one of those who want to use multiple substances like crazy... just testosterone alone is pretty awesome by itself.

Not promoting the use, but if you are 100% convinced... at least let me give you some advice: Read, read and read about steroids and their use for months before starting.








I can tell you a lot about steroids, just dont ask me where to buy them.

Nobody talks about it but hormones are life. The more you have the higher you are in the social hierarchy. People sense it. I was instantly hooked when I ran my first testosterone cycle. That's also why people talk shit about steroid users. Having the ability to increase your hormones is such a mind blowing thing if you really think about it. The first time I ran trenbolone I really felt like I could step into traffic and the cars would break and I wouldn't be harmed. You can only imagine what kind of look I had in my eyes. I eye fucked and made everyone submit to me without even trying. You become this fucking alient alpha beast on this shit it's mind blowing. You actually believe and feel that every bitch wants to suck your dick and it's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. It does seem to attract women. But you're right having the test levels of a few or ten healthy adult males in your veins is also an incredible feeling. You feel more. You are more. Everyone seems insignificant and unimportant. At least they affect me that much.

 

[Deleted member 5799]

Nobody talks about it but hormones are life. The more you have the higher you are in the social hierarchy. People sense it. I was instantly hooked when I ran my first testosterone cycle. That's also why people talk shit about steroid users. Having the ability to increase your hormones is such a mind blowing thing if you really think about it. The first time I ran trenbolone I really felt like I could step into traffic and the cars would break and I wouldn't be harmed. You can only imagine what kind of look I had in my eyes. I eye fucked and made everyone submit to me without even trying. You become this fucking alient alpha beast on this shit it's mind blowing. You actually believe and feel that every bitch wants to suck your dick and it's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. It does seem to attract women. But you're right having the test levels of a few or ten healthy adult males in your veins is also an incredible feeling. You feel more. You are more. Everyone seems insignificant and unimportant. At least they affect me that much.

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