at 15 almost all bones are already fused
doubt it
this doesnt mean you cant achieve cortical bone growth on your zygo,mandible,etc
Lol there is a lot of face changes happening after 15.
It's very different for everyone. I'd say after 20 there will be no more improvement
I mean it litearlly said it there that mandible maturates at 18-20
No dude. 15 is very young and many guys at that age still look very young.
evidence?
My dad looked pretty young at even 16 and looked way different when he was an adult (20s) with obvious bone growth and more fat
It has nothing to do with it, bone maturing - doesn't mean that you should expect any changed right before it
Are you mentally retarded? Fym evidence? You don't need evidence for that, have you ever been outside instead of rotting online?
Anecdotal evidence, no pics - dnr
sorry my brain doesnt work i cant really argue about this atm
perceived difference is such a dumb concept.
Dude what? Perceived difference is literally noticeable difference. You're fucking retarded acting smart
21 is the definite answer but for most it's anywhere between 16-18 cause bones mostly fuse together at the ripe age of 16 and growth plates close too afterwards.
You are the exact proof why it's dumb context. Disagreeing with science because "you don't need evidence for it" "i saw it"
By your logic I should not see a difference between a 16 year olds face and a 20 year olds face?
face yes. bones other then mandible - no.
Then what's difference about the face? What changes have happened between those 4 years
fat deposits change.
So I'll get hella hollow cheeks when I'm 20
If you have good bones - yes, look at any model in the same age range
Nice. I have a question tho, does fat grafting for eye hollowness have no sides? Because eye hollowness is my biggest falio
If done by good surgeon then you aren't likely to have any sides, just dont overfill undereyes as it can create lumps
Rather have that than hollow eyes tbh. And is there a risk to overfilll for UEE or anything like that?
this study was focused on volume btw
I've heard about many cosmetic surgeries and fat grafting seems to be the best cosmetic surgery there is when thinking of risk, results and cost. Do you agree?
If you lack periorbital fat - yes, it's low risk & high reward.
Should I do it ASAP when I turn 18 if I am very deficient in periorbital fat?
I mean, nowadays almost everyone is deficient in periorbital fat, even those with hooded eyes often just have recessed supras, but not a good amount of periorbital fat
yeah but the study isnt using hgh and tren like i am
Is having a good brow ridge related to well developed supras? Because my brow ridge is pretty developed. I just have UEE because I am very deficient in periorbital fat.
i dont wanna get into details but here an example
No clue, it's very individualistic, you'll only know when you try.
Bishara et al. (2000, At J Orthod) proved that the mandibula still can change till 20
Growth = 21
