When is surgery needed?

[Mrxshmallow]

I'm doing decent atm, been softmaxxing and life maxing a bit.

I’m not really interested anymore in eye area surgeries but considered again do the jaw, and the zygo.

Would prefer implants rather than genio or ZSO

would plan them to do in 2026, as have load of things to do next year as well.

Would it improve the look and dating enough to justify the ROI and price? Or I should be happy about struggling a bit but still doing not bad (not incel) ?

 

[BProdigy]

Always needed

 

[Mrxshmallow]

Always needed

Uh

 

[finnJMax]

If you are sub 5

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

if your jaws are recessed you need bimax like me.

70% of the population need bimax to an ectent.

implant is to mogg , osteotomies to have a decent base with forward growth , which is really important.

 

[lurking truecel]

I mean it is always about how you feel yourself. Do you think the benefit would be worth it, what is the risk to reward if something would fail ? There is no right or wrong answer here. Do you aim to have kids in the future investing is probably a better choice to have a secure life for them. What are your values ? Where do you want to live ? Do you have a high cost of living to meet your lifestyle?

 

[HorseMan7]

Hard to say but I think more people would benefit from bimax than not due to environmental factors making us deformed. If you need bimax, I think health and looks improvement would be worth the cost even if it sets you back years financially. If you are just genetically ugly but not deformed, I'm not sure bimax would be helpful.

 

[Mrxshmallow]

If you are sub 5

What about MTNs? In general, i'd say soft max and gym max + other factors could be enough if you put effort, dating wise.

But life wise and big boost? Yeah, surgery is the highest reward - risk out of all.