britshcel
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| Pill level | Belief system | Adopter of this belief |
Blue pill  | Believes personality is all that matters | Most people in daily life (e.g family, parents, boomers, etc) |
| Light red pill | Believes game and confidence are more important but looks matter only in extremes. Believes game can compensate for looks unless elephant man. Hard work is all that matter. | Rollo tomassi, james tusk, John anthony, and many PUAs |
| Medium red pill | Believe looks matter but also believe you need to get your shit together - money, status, body, game, smv, etc. Hard work can go a long way. Believes a collective of these can compensate for bad looks unless extreme. | Alex pwf, andrew tate, richard cooper, etc |
| Dark red pill | Believes looks are the most important but money, status etc are still important. Game still exists, but isn't as significant. Acknowledges genetics and more realistic, but thinks hard work can go a long way. Believes status, money and gym won't compensate for bad looks. May also believe in many debatable techniques such as mewing or eyelid pulling. Doesn't believe in surgeries in most cases but maybe as a last resort. | Kevin samuels, austin dunham, fitxfearless, hamza, 1stman, and many looksmaxxers in tiktok fall here |
| Light blackpill | Believes looks are most important but still acknowledges status and money to a small degree. Also provides a more realistic belief that looks are primarily genetic but hard work can still make a difference. They may believe in certain debatable techniques such as mewing, but are more realistic and may only believe it works from a younger age. Open to the idea of surgeries and often recommend it. Also believes a good face can compensate for people short height or ethnicity. Game only works if attractive, and only autism or severe mental health issues could prevent someone attractive from dating. | Nero angelo, wheat waffles, and a minority of looksmaxxers on tiktok |
| Medium blackpill | Believes looks are by far the most important factor. Believes status and money barely matter unless if extreme. Believes in looksmaxxing and surgeries, but only if the base is good. Believes height, face and ethnicity matter the most, but leaniness is also important and missing out on just one of these things come with challenges. May believe that looksmaxxing is cope outside of the basics of getting lean, hair transplant, acne, or surgeries with good base and clear deformity. Usually more analytical than the light blackpillers and put more emphasis on ratios and harmony over features. Believes heavily in genetic determinism but still acknowledges hard work in cases where the person is tall, non ethnic, with good base and bone structure, although one department can be lacking such as ethnicity. Game is basically useless unless if autistic. | FaceadLMS, and rehab room and true blackpillers and people on .org I'm assuming |
| Dark blackpill | This is hard core blackpillers who believe that genetic determinism is the biggest factor by far, and there's very little that can be done. May believe in looksmaxxing for individuals who are morbidly obese with solid bone structure or severely balding if base is good. By good base they mean tall, non ethnic, good looking with good bone structure and ratios, which they believe are mostly genetically determined. Doesn't believe in surgeries unless if the base is good and there's a clear deformity, otherwise it's a looksmin. Also believes that losing weight doesn't always make you look better, and can actually make some people look worse due to the worsened ratios and lack of structure. Basically believe looksmaxxing is cope, which is hard to stomach, even for blackpillers. May emphasise the importance of youth often. | Arguably older rehab room, mainly people from incels.is or lookism back in the day. Some of the most pessimistic people on this forum (e.g black gym max, allornothing, st. Tiktokcel etc ) |
| Darkest blackpiller | Reserved for the most hard cored, mentally ill, basement dwelling doomers who are overly delusional or pessimistic to the point where it's laughable. Believe everything is genetic, including basic concepts like leanmaxxing, laziness, and even personality. May believe it's over for pretty much all men and life was designed specifically to torture. These guys are rare and usually in mental asylums or have never left the basement. These guys are laughing stocks by even hardcore blackpillers and are think 100% everything is genetic and that looksmaxxing requires effort which is genetic. These people are beyond repair | Most pessimistic people on lookism or incels.is perhaps. Only person here I can think of is disillusioned. Extremist like jake davison may also fall here. Complete and utter loss of touch with reality. |
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