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Both are steroids are used to encourage pubertal growth
I've been taking 5mg daily halotestin (aka fluoxymesterone) for a week or so now (and aromasin for around a month).
According to this study "No adverse androgenic effects (or undue acceleration of puberty) were observed." for halotestin, which was one of my concerns
Both give a few inches onto final adult height. One study on halotestin suggested 6cm extra final height. I noticed studies on turner syndrome were more common for oxandrolone (aka anavar) whereas for halotestin many of them included children with constitutional delay of pubertal growth, which may make the oxandrolone results more reliable
What made me think of switching to anavar was the fact that I'm going to start test injections and saw this study, which implies that anavar increases frequency of GH pulses whereas test e increased the amplitude, making them a good match. I've been unable to find anything suggesting the effects of halotestin on the GH axis
Additionally ox + GH has been done before and I'm shipping HGH
another piece of evidence that suggested that anavar might match GH better
"Spontaneous GH secretion is enhanced by testosterone administration, producing a concurrent rise in serum insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I); the synthetic nonaromatizable androgen, oxandrolone, did not raise either mean serum GH or IGF-I in this study [278]. In other reports, however, oxandrolone was effective in enhancing the GH response to GHRH and sleep in some children [279,280], and in increasing mean 24-hour serum GH concentrations [281]."
I've been taking 5mg daily halotestin (aka fluoxymesterone) for a week or so now (and aromasin for around a month).
According to this study "No adverse androgenic effects (or undue acceleration of puberty) were observed." for halotestin, which was one of my concerns
Long-term results of treatment with low-dose fluoxymesterone in constitutional delay of growth and puberty and in genetic short stature - PubMed
This prospective study was designed to assess growth response, side effects, other possible long-term effects, and final adult height in boys treated with the oral androgen, fluoxymesterone. From 1973 to 1984, eighty-two short boys (71 with constitutional delay of growth and puberty [CDGP] and...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Both give a few inches onto final adult height. One study on halotestin suggested 6cm extra final height. I noticed studies on turner syndrome were more common for oxandrolone (aka anavar) whereas for halotestin many of them included children with constitutional delay of pubertal growth, which may make the oxandrolone results more reliable
What made me think of switching to anavar was the fact that I'm going to start test injections and saw this study, which implies that anavar increases frequency of GH pulses whereas test e increased the amplitude, making them a good match. I've been unable to find anything suggesting the effects of halotestin on the GH axis
Effect of low dose oxandrolone and testosterone treatment on the pituitary-testicular and GH axes in boys with constitutional delay of growth and puberty - PubMed
Oxandrolone transiently suppressed the pituitary-testicular axis and altered GH pulsatility. Testosterone increased GH via amplitude modulation.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Additionally ox + GH has been done before and I'm shipping HGH
Prospective Study Confirms Oxandrolone-Associated Improvement in Height in Growth Hormone-Treated Adolescent Girls with Turner Syndrome
Background/Aims: Untreated girls with Turner syndrome (TS) have growth failure, and adult height is, on average, 20 cm less than predicted height. Treatment with growth hormone (GH) is now standard of care. The objective of this study was to investigate the benefit of adding oxandrolone (Ox) to...
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another piece of evidence that suggested that anavar might match GH better
"Spontaneous GH secretion is enhanced by testosterone administration, producing a concurrent rise in serum insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I); the synthetic nonaromatizable androgen, oxandrolone, did not raise either mean serum GH or IGF-I in this study [278]. In other reports, however, oxandrolone was effective in enhancing the GH response to GHRH and sleep in some children [279,280], and in increasing mean 24-hour serum GH concentrations [281]."
Fluoxymesterone - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics
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