Which should I get fixed first? My recessed maxilla or my Ptosis? Or is the Ptosis a product of the recessed Maxilla?

[Deleted member 6908]

Which should I get fixed first? My recessed maxilla or my Ptosis? Or is the Ptosis a product of the recessed Maxilla?

 

[Deleted member 7776]

Your lower third and your maxilla. Bimax+implants.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Your lower third and your maxilla. Bimax+implants.

Lower third is weak too????

Like really weak or just too average? Lacking bigonial width?

I am worried implants are gonna make me look plastic/fake. Isn't it better to throw myself into one of the lefforts?

 

[oatmeal]

do bimax w/ccw rotation

 

[Deleted member 4797]

high prenatal t eye area

 

[Deleted member 6908]

do bimax w/ccw rotation

In English please psl autist?

 

[Deleted member 6908]

high prenatal t eye area

What do I have from this? Or am closest to?

 

[Deleted member 4797]

What do I have from this? Or am closest to?

on the right

 

[Deleted member 7776]

Lower third is weak too????

Like really weak or just too average? Lacking bigonial width?

I am worried implants are gonna make me look plastic/fake. Isn't it better to throw myself into one of the lefforts?

Bro, for real, why don't you just read the BoTB section's threads? This is common knowledge but I'll tell you for the last time.

1)It's weak.

2) It lacks forward growth and bigonial width and angularity.

3) Implants only look fake when they're wider than the zygos and/or the guy is recessed to begin with. Fix the recession with AT LEAST a bimax FIRST and THEN get a custom 3D CT scan designed wrap-around jaw implant AND a custom infraorbital-malar implant

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Bro, for real, why don't you just read the BoTB section's threads? This is common knowledge but I'll tell you for the last time.

1)It's weak.

2) It lacks forward growth and bigonial width and angularity.

3) Implants only look fake when they're wider than the zygos and/or the guy is recessed to begin with. Fix the recession with AT LEAST a bimax FIRST and THEN get a custom 3D CT scan designed wrap-around jaw implant AND a custom infraorbital-malar implant

Thank you very much.

 

[Dunkelheit]

Which should I get fixed first? My recessed maxilla or my Ptosis? Or is the Ptosis a product of the recessed Maxilla?

Lose some weight first ya fat fuck

 

[Ocelot]

Bro, for real, why don't you just read the BoTB section's threads? This is common knowledge but I'll tell you for the last time.

1)It's weak.

2) It lacks forward growth and bigonial width and angularity.

3) Implants only look fake when they're wider than the zygos and/or the guy is recessed to begin with. Fix the recession with AT LEAST a bimax FIRST and THEN get a custom 3D CT scan designed wrap-around jaw implant AND a custom infraorbital-malar implant

Do you even know what forward growth is?
He's just fat. Looking at his younger pics, his lower third is not recessed.

The lack of angularity and apparent downward growth is due to fat.

 

[oatmeal]

In English please psl autist?

do bimaxillary sugery, which consists of:

-lefort 1 osteotomy
-BSSO
-genioplasty

do it with counter-clockwise rotation of the maxilla, which they will do during this surgery if you opt in. this will make sure that your jaws are not only moved forward, but gives you less downward growth. its usually done to 6 degrees in normal patients.

also debloat first honestly.

 

[Deleted member 7776]

Do you even know what forward growth is?
He's just fat. Looking at his younger pics, his lower third is not recessed.

The lack of angularity and apparent downward growth is due to fat.

I know it's frowned upon to say 'cope' in this section, but I have no other choice but to say 'cope' after reading this idiotic nonsense.

JFL, learn more.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Do you even know what forward growth is?
He's just fat. Looking at his younger pics, his lower third is not recessed.

The lack of angularity and apparent downward growth is due to fat.

Do you even know what forward growth is?
He's just fat. Looking at his younger pics, his lower third is not recessed.

The lack of angularity and apparent downward growth is due to fat.

Hm. Since learning about forward-growth a couple of months ago, I've felt my right side was PARTIALLY downward grown due to maxillary ill-positioning and my right side forward-grown due to better maxillary positioning.

Watch the video back. The first side is my right side (The receded maxilla side) and my left the side with competent maxillary positioning.

You still believe BOTH sides are fine in-terms of forward growth and this is due to excess skin from the fat I've lost?

 

[Deleted member 6908]

do bimaxillary sugery, which consists of:

-lefort 1 osteotomy
-BSSO
-genioplasty

do it with counter-clockwise rotation of the maxilla, which they will do during this surgery if you opt in. this will make sure that your jaws are not only moved forward, but gives you less downward growth. its usually done to 6 degrees in normal patients.

also debloat first honestly.

Just for the record:

Are you saying do this bimaxillary surgery for BOTH right and left side? Or JUST the right-side where the maxilla is more poorly positioned?

 

[oatmeal]

Just for the record:

Are you saying do this bimaxillary surgery for BOTH right and left side? Or JUST the right-side where the maxilla is more poorly positioned?

you have asymmetry in this way? if you do then that might be a big problem. idk how that could be handled if its that big of an issue. @DatGuyYouLike

 

[Deleted member 4797]

What do I have from this? Or am closest to?

Why are you upset about having high t eye area? The most masculine slayers have eyes like yours. Low set upper eyelids, not to be confused with ptosis (which you dont have jfl).

 

[Ocelot]

I know it's frowned upon to say 'cope' in this section, but I have no other choice but to say 'cope' after reading this idiotic nonsense.

JFL, learn more.

Thanks for the detailed argument, you larping subhuman. He is not downward grown, looking at his younger photos, his mandibular angle is fine.

Hm. Since learning about forward-growth a couple of months ago, I've felt my right side was PARTIALLY downward grown due to maxillary ill-positioning and my right side forward-grown due to better maxillary positioning.

Watch the video back. The first side is my right side (The receded maxilla side) and my left the side with competent maxillary positioning.

You still believe BOTH sides are fine in-terms of forward growth and this is due to excess skin from the fat I've lost?

Difference in masseter size can make it appear as if one side has a longer ramus/is more parallel to the floor.

 

[Deleted member 7776]

Thanks for the detailed argument, you larping subhuman. He is not downward grown, looking at his younger photos, his mandibular angle is fine.

Difference in masseter size can make it appear as if one side has a longer ramus/is more parallel to the floor.

He is recessed, not downward grown, you gypsy subhuman dog. Don't bark at me till you've seen my actual face which mogs your entire being to oblivion. Ah whatever, I won't bother replying to your street-shitting ass. Get some soap

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Why are you upset about having high t eye area? The most masculine slayers have eyes like yours. Low set upper eyelids, not to be confused with ptosis (which you dont have jfl).

I don't have a droopy eyelid???????????

Dude I appreciate it and the science in what you're saying does have some credence I feel as my ex told me she loved my eyes and I've heard growing-up my eyes are attractive, however it seems that one eye sags more than the other and to a point where it holds me back a few psl. No?

They're lower-set, but look at this droop.........

 

[Deleted member 1862]

In English please psl autist?

that's rich

 

[Deleted member 4797]

I don't have a droopy eyelid???????????

Dude I appreciate it and the science in what you're saying does have some credence I feel as my ex told me she loved my eyes and I've heard growing-up my eyes are attractive, however it seems that one eye sags more than the other and to a point where it holds me back a few psl. No?

They're lower-set, but look at this droop.........

yeah your right I stand corrected, right side is your normal high prenatal t shape, left side has the high prenatal t shape with a slightly droopiness too. But its not as extremely droopy as you think, it just looks more so because the natural high prenatal t shape mimics droopy upper eyelid anyway.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

yeah your right I stand corrected, right side is your normal high prenatal t shape, left side has the high prenatal t shape with a slightly droopiness too. But its not as extremely droopy as you think, it just looks more so because the natural high prenatal t shape mimics droopy upper eyelid anyway.

Thank you for the insight man and yeah you've got it the wrong way round. Right is left and left is right. It's just this is recording.

And so yeah, what can I do about this semi-failo? What would you do, personally?

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Thank you for the insight man and yeah you've got it the wrong way round. Right is left and left is right. It's just this is recording.

And so yeah, what can I do about this semi-failo? What would you do, personally?

Looks like Taban can fix it

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Looks like Taban can fix it

Beautiful. Will find his contact and give him an email with these videos to boot.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Beautiful. Will find his contact and give him an email with these videos to boot.

Just dont get your lower eyelid lifted or try to make positive canthal tilt. He has sketchy results on those procedures

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Just dont get your lower eyelid lifted or try to make positive canthal tilt. He has sketchy results on those procedures

So when I message him, I message him about ptosis? That's what I say to him?

 

[Deleted member 4797]

So when I message him, I message him about ptosis? That's what I say to him?

Yes just ask him to fix your ptosis droopy upper eyelid. I dont know your surgical plan, but if you want infraorbital rim implants in the future, you may as well get those with him too together in the same surgery. Taban performs good infraorbital rim implants. Thats all though

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Yes just ask him to fix your ptosis droopy upper eyelid. I dont know your surgical plan, but if you want infraorbital rim implants in the future, you may as well get those with him too together in the same surgery. Taban performs good infraorbital rim implants. Thats all though

Rough estimation on the pstosis and implants, separately?

 

[Deleted member 6191]

Looks like Taban can fix it

Looks like ahuge money waster for the most part

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Rough estimation on the pstosis and implants, separately?

no clue bro, if he's too much then there's other eye surgeon specialists. I know Dr Apostolakis is 10k for custom infraorbital implants which are top quality though. Dr Apostolakis I would assume could also perform ptosis repair, but you have to contact them

 

[MedMaxxing]

If you have the money, just go all in for your lower third. Bimax with CCW (mandible or Maxilla depending on which you need) with Genio and if you lack gonial width, you should be able to ask for widening there as well (just found out from a thread in the BoTB section a guy came out with a Jamie Lannister tier mandible post surgery). The recovery will be kind of daunting with that many cuts, but it would have a pretty big impact on one's looks.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

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high prenatal t eye area

how to know that u have eye prenatal T eye area ? i never understand these drawing.

 

[Deleted member 5818]

You can fix them both at the same time

 

[Deleted member 4797]

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how to know that u have eye prenatal T eye area ? i never understand these drawing.

more closed eyes, more wide set eyes, higher set infraorbital rims, less PCT, wider and higher set nasion, wider set brows, lower brows on the outside part not the hunter eyes look.

 

[Deleted member 10615]

your eyes look fine just get bimax and you'll be good

 

[isis_Bleach]

Which should I get fixed first? My recessed maxilla or my Ptosis? Or is the Ptosis a product of the recessed Maxilla?

bone wise you are fine besides your jaw which is round so get lean and see where you are. biggest failo is your eyes because close-set, nct, ptosis which is brutal idk really what surgeries can fix those.