Why am I getting ghosted after first dates?

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I have no issues attracting women on street, getting digits via cold approach and arranging first dates.

But I get almost always ghosted after first few dates or so. Why is that?

Rich, fit, bf at around 10%, 6'2'' barefoot, 6'4'' with insoles, breath doesn't stink, HTN, try to not act spastic.

Are there any useful resources specifically on messaging, texting flowcharts after first dates, second dates up until first lay? I've found helpful resources on cold appraoch and I think I have mastered that pretty well, can get numbers most of time. I know how to text to arrange first dates, but after that I'm at a loss and it always fizzles out.

I need specific things:
  • Do I text her after first date?
  • How soon?
  • What do I text her?
  • Do I arrange second date during first date or do I arrange it a few days later via text?
  • Do I text before first and second date?
  • How to maintain communication in between dates. How often to text, what to text?
I will appreciate ALL and ANY information on this subject.

I'm trying to improve looks, but seems like at this moment I'm pretty much maxed out. Only super hard maxxes left and for some of those you have to wait year in advance.

Note: I have zero status and zero online presence, since I'm not famous.

I arrange all dates via imessage, whatsapp and what not.
 
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so after the date, ill just freestyle u a flowchart but its gonna be very shitty, ok?

-after date: 1. it went good --> text her that it was fun and that yall should hang out again soon
2. it as bad, lots of silence, awkward moments --> just apologize and see what she says if shes interested shell give u another chance if not just move on, after that barely text her, only go on dates and talk there, and remember key rule: after a few amount of dates yall should start making memories together not exchanging past stories and stuff
 
Maybe u aren't escalating things enough. As in kissing, touching and fucking
 
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Maybe u aren't escalating things enough. As in kissing, touching and fucking
I thought so too, so I escalated and touch back, shoulders, etc... still same results.

One girl said she was umcomfortable with my quick escalations and inviting her over.
The other said I was basically too boring for her.

You can never win.
 
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i have similar experiences, dating has gotten harder exponentially every year since 2020
its not you, foids have changed
 
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Pull out your cock and fuck them hard that's what they want
 
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i have similar experiences, dating has gotten harder exponentially every year since 2020
its not you, foids have changed
This is frankly bizarre. I've never been doing better financially, but still not good enough for Walmart cashiers.

Okay, hopefully LL gives me the edge I need.
 
I thought so too, so I escalated and touch back, shoulders, etc... still same results.

One girl said she was umcomfortable with my quick escalations and inviting her over.
The other said I was basically too boring for her.

You can never win.
Well what do you seek, relationships or hookups ?
 
I thought so too, so I escalated and touch back, shoulders, etc... still same results.

One girl said she was umcomfortable with my quick escalations and inviting her over.
The other said I was basically too boring for her.

You can never win.
That’s the answer


It’s always a dice roll she wasn’t feeling you 🥲

Welcome to life
 
I have no issues attracting women on street, getting digits via cold approach and arranging first dates.

But I get almost always ghosted after first few dates or so. Why is that?

Rich, fit, bf at around 10%, 6'2'' barefoot, 6'4'' with insoles, breath doesn't stink, HTN, try to not act spastic.

Are there any useful resources specifically on messaging, texting flowcharts after first dates, second dates up until first lay? I've found helpful resources on cold appraoch and I think I have mastered that pretty well, can get numbers most of time. I know how to text to arrange first dates, but after that I'm at a loss and it always fizzles out.

I need specific things:
  • Do I text her after first date?
  • How soon?
  • What do I text her?
  • Do I arrange second date during first date or do I arrange it a few days later via text?
  • Do I text before first and second date?
  • How to maintain communication in between dates. How often to text, what to text?
I will appreciate ALL and ANY information on this subject.

I'm trying to improve looks, but seems like at this moment I'm pretty much maxed out. Only super hard maxxes left and for some of those you have to wait year in advance.

Note: I have zero status and zero online presence, since I'm not famous.

I arrange all dates via imessage, whatsapp and what not.
@6ft4 looks purgatory status?
 
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That’s the answer


It’s always a dice roll she wasn’t feeling you 🥲

Welcome to life
This is not the case I think.

One incident, sure.
Two, okay.
Three, five, 10... maybe bad luck

50? Something's wrong with you buddy.

It's a pattern at this point. Something's seriously wrong and I can't detemrine what. I'd pay A LOT of money for someone to help me fix this once and for all.
 
This is not the case I think.

One incident, sure.
Two, okay.
Three, five, 10... maybe bad luck

50? Something's wrong with you buddy.

It's a pattern at this point. Something's seriously wrong and I can't detemrine what. I'd pay A LOT of money for someone to help me fix this once and for all.
Nope it’s just women reacting to you not being NT :lul: I have had girls of 3 races literally CHADstruck with me they thought I was that attractive and once we met etc they even said I looked better we kissed etc

And then I get ghosted

Why? Because if girls don’t feel like “your the one” they dispose of you unless they are horny or feel “bad” then they call you over for a bit to slay them… its happened to me so I know what im saying

Other times im just too autistic and the girl cant cope and just gets rid off me 🤷‍♂️ this is what it is :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:
 
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Nope it’s just women reacting to you not being NT :lul: I have had girls of 3 races literally CHADstruck with me they thought I was that attractive and once we met etc they even said I looked better we kissed etc

And then I get ghosted

Why? Because if girls don’t feel like “your the one” they dispose of you unless they are horny or feel “bad” then they call you over for a bit to slay them… its happened to me so I know what im saying

Other times im just too autistic and the girl cant cope and just gets rid off me 🤷‍♂️ this is what it is :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:
So how to fix this? I'm quite NT and have a wide social circle and can communicate with strangers easily. Sometimes I can even lead the group if I have the energy for it. So I doubt it's not being NT.
 
So how to fix this? I'm quite NT and have a wide social circle and can communicate with strangers easily. Sometimes I can even lead the group if I have the energy for it. So I doubt it's not being NT.
You cant

View women like D&D dice rolls

How they react and think of you is completely RNG and based on how they “Feel” this is why I advise men like us to buy pheromones that will create this “feeling” women want it’s cheating sure but hey if they tell em they just FEEL like I’m not the one then I’ll make them FEEL LIKE I am the one 😉

Also less is more, give as little about yourself as possible to women. Their brains are cooler so you have to always remain mysterious and not too invested in the whore
 
How they react and think of you is completely RNG and based on how they “Feel” this is why I advise men like us to buy pheromones that will create this “feeling” women want it’s cheating sure but hey if they tell em they just FEEL like I’m not the one then I’ll make them FEEL LIKE I am the one 😉
Which pheromones?
 
Which pheromones?
There’s a few but I can’t remember their name. I did bookmark it so I’ll report it to you once I’m @ home and can post it from my PC
 
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There’s a few but I can’t remember their name. I did bookmark it so I’ll report it to you once I’m @ home and can post it from my PC
Would be great. Thanks a lot.
I'm willing to try anything at this point.
 
confront them and threaten to assault them
 
I have no issues attracting women on street, getting digits via cold approach and arranging first dates.

But I get almost always ghosted after first few dates or so. Why is that?

Rich, fit, bf at around 10%, 6'2'' barefoot, 6'4'' with insoles, breath doesn't stink, HTN, try to not act spastic.

Are there any useful resources specifically on messaging, texting flowcharts after first dates, second dates up until first lay? I've found helpful resources on cold appraoch and I think I have mastered that pretty well, can get numbers most of time. I know how to text to arrange first dates, but after that I'm at a loss and it always fizzles out.

I need specific things:
  • Do I text her after first date?
  • How soon?
  • What do I text her?
  • Do I arrange second date during first date or do I arrange it a few days later via text?
  • Do I text before first and second date?
  • How to maintain communication in between dates. How often to text, what to text?
I will appreciate ALL and ANY information on this subject.

I'm trying to improve looks, but seems like at this moment I'm pretty much maxed out. Only super hard maxxes left and for some of those you have to wait year in advance.

Note: I have zero status and zero online presence, since I'm not famous.

I arrange all dates via imessage, whatsapp and what not.
pharmacology first then surgery after if you are really not lying about HTN.

Dating market is just fucked bruv.
 
u need penthaouse
 
Id rather be ghosted than ghost someone
 
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I have no issues attracting women on street, getting digits via cold approach and arranging first dates.

But I get almost always ghosted after first few dates or so. Why is that?

Rich, fit, bf at around 10%, 6'2'' barefoot, 6'4'' with insoles, breath doesn't stink, HTN, try to not act spastic.

Are there any useful resources specifically on messaging, texting flowcharts after first dates, second dates up until first lay? I've found helpful resources on cold appraoch and I think I have mastered that pretty well, can get numbers most of time. I know how to text to arrange first dates, but after that I'm at a loss and it always fizzles out.

I need specific things:
  • Do I text her after first date?
  • How soon?
  • What do I text her?
  • Do I arrange second date during first date or do I arrange it a few days later via text?
  • Do I text before first and second date?
  • How to maintain communication in between dates. How often to text, what to text?
I will appreciate ALL and ANY information on this subject.

I'm trying to improve looks, but seems like at this moment I'm pretty much maxed out. Only super hard maxxes left and for some of those you have to wait year in advance.

Note: I have zero status and zero online presence, since I'm not famous.

I arrange all dates via imessage, whatsapp and what not.
Just ask to fuck
 
most girls ghost after the first date, that's the norm not the exception

you don't text first after first date

you arrange second date days after the first date, not during the first date the fuck

there is no communication to maintain, if she likes you even a little it will be natural

it shouldn't feel like pulling teeth
 
Any 2 randomly selected strangers are highly unlikely to be compatible. That's why.
 
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LISTEN, I noticed u put ur thread under the blackpill category so imma be 100% real no cap
It’s simply because ur chopped and dont fit into those girls standards
 
Any 2 randomly selected strangers are highly unlikely to be compatible. That's why.
except if the guy is a chad then she's compatible
 
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LISTEN, I noticed u put ur thread under the blackpill category so imma be 100% real no cap
It’s simply because ur chopped and dont fit into those girls standards
I doubt this is the case. I'm above average for sure and have maxxed out. I don't have any glaring faults, have good body, head full of hair and above average height.
 
Height ethnicity and face rating?
 
thugmaxxed Tyrone pulled up
 
This is not the case I think.

One incident, sure.
Two, okay.
Three, five, 10... maybe bad luck

50? Something's wrong with you buddy.

It's a pattern at this point. Something's seriously wrong and I can't detemrine what. I'd pay A LOT of money for someone to help me fix this once and for all.
Have a idea but its kinda high effort, you just record the date with your phone (only audio) and then listen to it to see if you do something akward, maybe share it with your friend or on this forum.
 
I have no issues attracting women on street, getting digits via cold approach and arranging first dates.

But I get almost always ghosted after first few dates or so. Why is that?

Rich, fit, bf at around 10%, 6'2'' barefoot, 6'4'' with insoles, breath doesn't stink, HTN, try to not act spastic.

Are there any useful resources specifically on messaging, texting flowcharts after first dates, second dates up until first lay? I've found helpful resources on cold appraoch and I think I have mastered that pretty well, can get numbers most of time. I know how to text to arrange first dates, but after that I'm at a loss and it always fizzles out.

I need specific things:
  • Do I text her after first date?
  • How soon?
  • What do I text her?
  • Do I arrange second date during first date or do I arrange it a few days later via text?
  • Do I text before first and second date?
  • How to maintain communication in between dates. How often to text, what to text?
I will appreciate ALL and ANY information on this subject.

I'm trying to improve looks, but seems like at this moment I'm pretty much maxed out. Only super hard maxxes left and for some of those you have to wait year in advance.

Note: I have zero status and zero online presence, since I'm not famous.

I arrange all dates via imessage, whatsapp and what not.
They can sense your incel rage from within you
 
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Have a idea but its kinda high effort, you just record the date with your phone (only audio) and then listen to it to see if you do something akward, maybe share it with your friend or on this forum.
Unironically have considered this.
 

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