Why am I stuck at MTN?

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What is holding me back from being above mtn level besides bloat I have good features from what many have told me and complemented me on but can seem to find out what my problem is.
 

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Yr more LTN here
 
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Is that herpes from sucking BBC?
 
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10/10 rizzler.
 
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so how does me having more body fat and having lines on my face make me mtn?
because just being a normal weight isn't enough. you need to be lean to be your most attractive self and expose all your futures. yes some people will look good even at a higher bodyfat, but that's down to genetics/luck. if you dont have a chad skull this is your only way to see how good you can look naturally unfortunately. look at someone like clavicular.. wasn't overweight by any means but his face has definitely gotten better after he has leaned down
 
because just being a normal weight isn't enough. you need to be lean to be your most attractive self and expose all your futures. yes some people will look good even at a higher bodyfat, but that's down to genetics/luck. if you dont have a chad skull this is your only way to see how good you can look naturally unfortunately. look at someone like clavicular.. wasn't overweight by any means but his face has definitely gotten better after he has leaned down
i was talking about the dude saying i look ltn in these pics but these pics are the most recent and i have lost a little bit of face fat, but what I was saying is he’s calling me an ltn in those pics but one of my first threads I had high body fat and chubbier face and was called mtn by everyone
 
honestly couldn’t even tell you and idk how to check is either i’m 5’11 at 155 pounds
just height and weight isn't enough to tell. there could be a skinny fat 6'1 guy who has no muscle and is 180 lbs. Imagine he has the same muscle mass as those 135 lb twinks you see at that same height, and just has an extra 45 lbs of fat. Now imagine the same guy 2 years later with an extra 20 lbs of muscle, but still the same weight. bf% will have changed drastically.

It's possible you're a 135 lb twink muscle wise and have an extra 20 lbs of fat you could lose. But also maybe not
 
because just being a normal weight isn't enough. you need to be lean to be your most attractive self and expose all your futures. yes some people will look good even at a higher bodyfat, but that's down to genetics/luck. if you dont have a chad skull this is your only way to see how good you can look naturally unfortunately. look at someone like clavicular.. wasn't overweight by any means but his face has definitely gotten better after he has leaned down
trust me i’m looking for every bit of advice I can but everytime i try to fix these flaws or anything someone comes up with a new one and I still haven’t made decent progress I am trying to lose weight bc I just want people to look at me different and I’m still stuck on what I need to do bc maybe bloat isn’t the only thing holding me back. I have high and wide set cheekbones but they don’t show at all because of the fat in my face and my jawline is pretty good I would say too and other sorts
 
May be able to ascend a bit without a jewfro, perhaps experiment with straighter hair
 
just height and weight isn't enough to tell. there could be a skinny fat 6'1 guy who has no muscle and is 180 lbs. Imagine he has the same muscle mass as those 135 lb twinks you see at that same height, and just has an extra 45 lbs of fat. Now imagine the same guy 2 years later with an extra 20 lbs of muscle, but still the same weight. bf% will have changed drastically.

It's possible you're a 135 lb twink muscle wise and have an extra 20 lbs of fat you could lose. But also maybe not
i have muscle from being in football i’m only 155 pounds and yes I do have a lot of extra weight that I could lose but people keep telling me to cope with my weight and say I’m skinny enough as is, these pics are in shitty lighting and i’m pale asf so these are non frauds pics
 

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do you want me to just straighten my hair?
You do look relatively lean in the second pic. But it's possible you store fat in other places (thighs, face, etc). Just like how some people store fat in their stomach and face first, the opposite is also true. That being said, you DO look lean enough. Need some high iq users in this thread that are more knowledgable than me to determine why your face is still 'bloated'. You can try experimenting with getting leaner, just stick with whatever's sustainable.

Here's a pic of Sam Zia from his tiktok
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He's about 6'0 or 6'1 I believe, and is 143-145 ish pounds (in the video he weights 147 with clothes and shoes). He has some muscle mass and is very lean. Considering you're shorter that could mean you can try losing another 10 ish lbs, but again I don't know how much muscle mass you actually have / what other factors contribute to your current weight. Speaking from my experience, I don't consider myself lean until about 145 lbs (twink, I know), and I'm 6'1. rn im 170 and my face is MUCH worse than it can be. It gets a little better every 5 lbs of fat I lose. That being said, with a shirt on people may suspect I'm already lean.
 
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You do look relatively lean in the second pic. But it's possible you store fat in other places (thighs, face, etc). Just like how some people store fat in their stomach and face first, the opposite is also true. That being said, you DO look lean enough. Need some high iq users in this thread that are more knowledgable than me to determine why your face is still 'bloated'. You can try experimenting with getting leaner, just stick with whatever's sustainable.

Here's a pic of Sam Zia from his tiktok
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He's about 6'0 or 6'1 I believe, and is 143-145 ish pounds (in the video he weights 147 with clothes and shoes). He has some muscle mass and is very lean. Considering you're shorter that could mean you can try losing another 10 ish lbs, but again I don't know how much muscle mass you actually have / what other factors contribute to your current weight. Speaking from my experience, I don't consider myself lean until about 145 lbs (twink, I know), and I'm 6'1. rn im 170 and my face is MUCH worse than it can be. It gets a little better every 5 lbs of fat I lose. That being said, with a shirt on people may suspect I'm already lean.
i’ve tried to find some high iq people in this thread and I just can’t find any for the answers that I need I keep wondering why my face is more bloated and such then my body
 
What is holding me back from being above mtn level besides bloat I have good features from what many have told me and complemented me on but can seem to find out what my problem is.
mtn jail:feelswhy:
 
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You look good, what you fuzzing about
mtn isn’t good enough for women anymore and I hardly have any appeal and people on this forum don’t seem to think to highly of me, i feel like I have really great and good genetics but it’s just that my face is to chubby, even though it could change in the next few years since Im only 18 but I feel like there’s something I can do about my looks now
 
It's your neck, eyebrows, lips, nose and philtrum. You are ltn, not mtn, but fixing most of these can take you there
 
It's your neck, eyebrows, lips, nose and philtrum. You are ltn, not mtn, but fixing most of these can take you there
ur one of the few people to think im ltn if u think im ltn then u gotta be taking some strong medication to cope to yourself😭
 

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