Why ANARCHISM Doesn't Work [People are Retards]

[coastal]

TLDR in the end but please read

throughout history we've NEVER seen a truly Anarchistic society being able to prosper.

perhaps the closest we got to "Anarchism" were Catalonia in mid 20th century and post revolutionary Ukraine in 1918,
both of which lasted LESS THAN 3 YEARS

BUT WHY? on the surface, Anarchism has answers to every critique. it's logical, rational and almost irrefutable.
taxation is theft by definition, voluntary association is good for everyone, and being able to do what you want without the government controlling you sounds amazing

throughout my journey of reading Hoppe and Mises theory, i came to the only conclusion that makes sense to me.
i deeply believe that it's because most people (around 80% i believe, so 4 in 5) are FUCKING RETARDS

no matter how many logical arguments you make, it doesnt matter if people you try to build this "utopia" with are fucking illogical

"dont murder coz violation of NAP" very cool, but why ought we follow the NAP. consequences?
there are consequences right now yet people still murder and steal. so how would this be any better?

"people wont do bad things coz it's not in their self interest" 80%+ of people regularly make decisions that make their lives WORSE, NOT BETTER
we're not very logical creatures. in our day to day we operate on instincts

Anarchism can truly work only if everyone participating in society is a logical, rational individual.

because no matter how many good arguments you give for NAP and voluntarism it WILL NOT MATTER if people just dont fucking care about logic

that's the exact issue i have with all Anarchistic political ideologies, whether it's communism, anarcho-capitalism or Hoppeanism.


tagging politcels @iwannasleeponurlap @lemureater @Revan @Navity @FramepiII


TLDR: Anarchy doesnt work because 80% of people are illogical retards not working in their own self interest and harming the society.
a ruling power is necessary to force the retards to do what smarter people decided is best for them

 

[coastal]

inb4 dnr

 

[HexumReincarnated]

dnrd dont care #capitalismrules

 

[Lemur]

yes fuck anarchists theyre all long haired stinky fucks that are idealists who never read theory

cool flags though

 

[coastal]

dnrd dont care #neet4life #capitalism

repped for cute master vid + #capitalism + #bringbackthekings

 

[coastal]

yes fuck anarchists theyre all long haired stinky fucks that are idealists who never read theory

cool flags though

cool hoppe helicopter memes

 

[iwannasleeponurlap]

TLDR in the end but please read

throughout history we've NEVER seen a truly Anarchistic society being able to prosper.

perhaps the closest we got to "Anarchism" were Catalonia in mid 20th century and post revolutionary Ukraine in 1918,
both of which lasted LESS THAN 3 YEARS

BUT WHY? on the surface, Anarchism has answers to every critique. it's logical, rational and almost irrefutable.
taxation is theft by definition, voluntary association is good for everyone, and being able to do what you want without the government controlling you sounds amazing

throughout my journey of reading Hoppe and Mises theory, i came to the only conclusion that makes sense to me.
i deeply believe that it's because most people (around 80% i believe, so 4 in 5) are FUCKING RETARDS

no matter how many logical arguments you make, it doesnt matter if people you try to build this "utopia" with are fucking illogical

"dont murder coz violation of NAP" very cool, but why ought we follow the NAP. consequences?
there are consequences right now yet people still murder and steal. so how would this be any better?

"people wont do bad things coz it's not in their self interest" 80%+ of people regularly make decisions that make their lives WORSE, NOT BETTER
we're not very logical creatures. in our day to day we operate on instincts

Anarchism can truly work only if everyone participating in society is a logical, rational individual.

because no matter how many good arguments you give for NAP and voluntarism it WILL NOT MATTER if people just dont fucking care about logic

that's the exact issue i have with all Anarchistic political ideologies, whether it's communism, anarcho-capitalism or Hoppeanism.


tagging politcels @iwannasleeponurlap @lemureater @Revan @Navity @FramepiII


TLDR: Anarchy doesnt work because 80% of people are illogical retards not working in their own self interest and harming the society.
a ruling power is necessary to force the retards to do what smarter people decided is best for them

im not politcel
i no politics

 

[HexumReincarnated]

repped for cute master vid + #capitalism + #bringbackthekings

love you babe

 

[Navity]

TLDR in the end but please read

throughout history we've NEVER seen a truly Anarchistic society being able to prosper.

perhaps the closest we got to "Anarchism" were Catalonia in mid 20th century and post revolutionary Ukraine in 1918,
both of which lasted LESS THAN 3 YEARS

BUT WHY? on the surface, Anarchism has answers to every critique. it's logical, rational and almost irrefutable.
taxation is theft by definition, voluntary association is good for everyone, and being able to do what you want without the government controlling you sounds amazing

throughout my journey of reading Hoppe and Mises theory, i came to the only conclusion that makes sense to me.
i deeply believe that it's because most people (around 80% i believe, so 4 in 5) are FUCKING RETARDS

no matter how many logical arguments you make, it doesnt matter if people you try to build this "utopia" with are fucking illogical

"dont murder coz violation of NAP" very cool, but why ought we follow the NAP. consequences?
there are consequences right now yet people still murder and steal. so how would this be any better?

"people wont do bad things coz it's not in their self interest" 80%+ of people regularly make decisions that make their lives WORSE, NOT BETTER
we're not very logical creatures. in our day to day we operate on instincts

Anarchism can truly work only if everyone participating in society is a logical, rational individual.

because no matter how many good arguments you give for NAP and voluntarism it WILL NOT MATTER if people just dont fucking care about logic

that's the exact issue i have with all Anarchistic political ideologies, whether it's communism, anarcho-capitalism or Hoppeanism.


tagging politcels @iwannasleeponurlap @lemureater @Revan @Navity @FramepiII


TLDR: Anarchy doesnt work because 80% of people are illogical retards not working in their own self interest and harming the society.
a ruling power is necessary to force the retards to do what smarter people decided is best for them

Great thread OP, mirin the high IQ post on this ass forum which only is for shitposts nowadays.

 

[coastal]

im not politcel
i no politics

#politicsisjester

but what about state mandated gfs

 

[Throw_Away]

Well, once we overthrow all those evil governments and ruling systems, we have to make sure more of them dont rise up, so we will create the anti-government league, which will need people to enforce its one rule of not letting more governments come to be, so we will create the anti-government police league, then we'll also need to keep these people working to enforce our anti-rules, so we-

Anarchist niggers right before inventing government^

 

[iwannasleeponurlap]

#politicsisjester

but what about state mandated gfs

the what?

 

[coastal]

Great thread OP, mirin the high IQ post on this ass forum which only is for shitposts nowadays.

preciate that bhai, got inspired to post high iq stuff because of your threads we'll save offtop from the shitpost epidemic

 

[Lemur]

anarchists are fine with 6 year olds marrying 60 year olds btw

 

[Revan]

i want anarchism so i dont have to contribute to society and can rot here all day

mirin tag

 

[iwannasleeponurlap]

preciate that bhai, got inspired to post high iq stuff because of your threads we'll save offtop from the shitpost epidemic

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

If you let caos into order, that order will fall and powerful people and poor people will create order for their benefit

It's a cycle and they are opposite forces, can't have both

 

[coastal]

Well, once we overthrow all those evil governments and ruling systems, we have to make sure more of them dont rise up, so we will create the anti-government league, which will need people to enforce its one rule of not letting more governments come to be, so we will create the anti-government police league, then we'll also need to keep these people working to enforce our anti-rules, so we-

Anarchist niggers right before inventing government^

but WHAT IF we rename the state to "night watchers" and pray they dont become a dictatorship and will only enforce the NAP?
im sure no group of people with extraordinary power will take advantage of a disorganized society

the what?

STATE MANDATED BADDIES virgin and fertile

 

[krieg]

I don’t like them

But Nestor Makhno and the Black Army lowkey had some aura and cool edits

 

[hopelessmanlet32]

honestly idc all humans should die we are a shit species

 

[coastal]

anarchists are fine with 6 year olds marrying 60 year olds btw

but it doesnt violate the NAP tho

i know, im the problem but the shapes are just too fascinating

If you let caos into order, that order will fall and powerful people and poor people will create order for their benefit

It's a cycle and they are opposite forces, can't have both

i agree, there's no proletariat vs elites. there's just proletarian that supports the old elites vs the proletariat that supports the new ones

all the "uprisings" are just tools the new elites use to replace the old ones, framed as a rebellion against oppressors

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

If you let caos into order, that order will fall and powerful people and poor people will create order for their benefit

It's a cycle and they are opposite forces, can't have both

Also caos is our natural state ththat our ininstincts push us towards

Our priority is us

 

[FramepiII]

I'm an illogical retard by definition

 

[Lemur]

i am gonna disagree with the claim that people are illogical and act in their self interest however.

thats simply because we are raised in a deeply induvidualist capitalist society where community and class consiousness are non existant

especially in nations where there isnt a strong unifying culture or religion that brings everyone together

the super structure is fundamentally based off material conditions but that doesnt change the fact that for community and shared class to exist, there still needs a unifying reason other than being of the surplus class. EJ Thompson writes on this alot better than i can explain and other 'new left' marxists post hungarian revolution

 

[coastal]

I don’t like them

But Nestor Makhno and the Black Army lowkey had some aura and cool edits

the edits do go hard as fuck i'll give you that

 

[Lemur]

the edits do go hard as fuck i'll give you that

black army was so sick

 

[luuk]

TLDR in the end but please read

throughout history we've NEVER seen a truly Anarchistic society being able to prosper.

perhaps the closest we got to "Anarchism" were Catalonia in mid 20th century and post revolutionary Ukraine in 1918,
both of which lasted LESS THAN 3 YEARS

BUT WHY? on the surface, Anarchism has answers to every critique. it's logical, rational and almost irrefutable.
taxation is theft by definition, voluntary association is good for everyone, and being able to do what you want without the government controlling you sounds amazing

throughout my journey of reading Hoppe and Mises theory, i came to the only conclusion that makes sense to me.
i deeply believe that it's because most people (around 80% i believe, so 4 in 5) are FUCKING RETARDS

no matter how many logical arguments you make, it doesnt matter if people you try to build this "utopia" with are fucking illogical

"dont murder coz violation of NAP" very cool, but why ought we follow the NAP. consequences?
there are consequences right now yet people still murder and steal. so how would this be any better?

"people wont do bad things coz it's not in their self interest" 80%+ of people regularly make decisions that make their lives WORSE, NOT BETTER
we're not very logical creatures. in our day to day we operate on instincts

Anarchism can truly work only if everyone participating in society is a logical, rational individual.

because no matter how many good arguments you give for NAP and voluntarism it WILL NOT MATTER if people just dont fucking care about logic

that's the exact issue i have with all Anarchistic political ideologies, whether it's communism, anarcho-capitalism or Hoppeanism.


tagging politcels @iwannasleeponurlap @lemureater @Revan @Navity @FramepiII


TLDR: Anarchy doesnt work because 80% of people are illogical retards not working in their own self interest and harming the society.
a ruling power is necessary to force the retards to do what smarter people decided is best for them

Anarchism doesn’t work because of scale and time

You CAN make anarchism work in a small tribe of likeminded anarchists, for one generation, maybe a few if you’re lucky. But eventually some individuals will be born with antisocial traits or tendencies, hierarchies will form, conflict will occur

 

[coastal]

I'm an illogical retard by definition

I HAVE A TWIN

i am gonna disagree with the claim that people are illogical and act in their self interest however.

thats simply because we are raised in a deeply induvidualist capitalist society where community and class consiousness are non existant

especially in nations where there isnt a strong unifying culture or religion that brings everyone together

the super structure is fundamentally based off material conditions but that doesnt change the fact that for community and shared class to exist, there still needs a unifying reason other than being of the surplus class. EJ Thompson writes on this alot better than i can explain and other 'new left' marxists post hungarian revolution

what i mean by "illogical" is that our instincts dont align with Anarchist logic specifically. the human nature of "steal to eat even if it violates the NAP" just cant coexist with a society built on a logical premise that anarchy advocates for

and yeah i agree, if there's not an entity that unifies people they'll just work against eachother rather than with eachother

 

[coastal]

Anarchism doesn’t work because of scale and time

You CAN make anarchism work in a small tribe of likeminded anarchists, for one generation, maybe a few if you’re lucky. But eventually some individuals will be born with antisocial traits or tendencies, hierarchies will form, conflict will occur

yep, exactly what i meant. if you remove the 80% of people and make a small community where everyone knows everyone it can and will work. like the hunter-gatherer tribes we had before society came to be, they worked pretty well.

or communes/villages with 150 people, also no issues there

when everyone knows everyone we dont want to go against the collective, because it's actually personal

but in a big country, and especially with a long time horizon, as soon as the new generation replaces the old one anarchy will collapse

 

[milkshake_addict]

#captialism4ever

 

[alurmo]

TLDR in the end but please read

throughout history we've NEVER seen a truly Anarchistic society being able to prosper.

perhaps the closest we got to "Anarchism" were Catalonia in mid 20th century and post revolutionary Ukraine in 1918,
both of which lasted LESS THAN 3 YEARS

BUT WHY? on the surface, Anarchism has answers to every critique. it's logical, rational and almost irrefutable.
taxation is theft by definition, voluntary association is good for everyone, and being able to do what you want without the government controlling you sounds amazing

throughout my journey of reading Hoppe and Mises theory, i came to the only conclusion that makes sense to me.
i deeply believe that it's because most people (around 80% i believe, so 4 in 5) are FUCKING RETARDS

no matter how many logical arguments you make, it doesnt matter if people you try to build this "utopia" with are fucking illogical

"dont murder coz violation of NAP" very cool, but why ought we follow the NAP. consequences?
there are consequences right now yet people still murder and steal. so how would this be any better?

"people wont do bad things coz it's not in their self interest" 80%+ of people regularly make decisions that make their lives WORSE, NOT BETTER
we're not very logical creatures. in our day to day we operate on instincts

Anarchism can truly work only if everyone participating in society is a logical, rational individual.

because no matter how many good arguments you give for NAP and voluntarism it WILL NOT MATTER if people just dont fucking care about logic

that's the exact issue i have with all Anarchistic political ideologies, whether it's communism, anarcho-capitalism or Hoppeanism.


tagging politcels @iwannasleeponurlap @lemureater @Revan @Navity @FramepiII


TLDR: Anarchy doesnt work because 80% of people are illogical retards not working in their own self interest and harming the society.
a ruling power is necessary to force the retards to do what smarter people decided is best for them

tldr- if u actively say yes to the society we live in, u will and should expect to feel a great disgust towards it, unless ur mind is poisoned

 

[coastal]

#captialism4ever

i agree, im a free market capitalism myself. and i want a king

#monarchism #Byzantium

 

[coastal]

tldr- if u actively say yes to the society we live in, u will and should expect to feel a great disgust towards it, unless ur mind is poisoned

truly wise words bhai