Why "appeal" is overrated

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Why appeal is overrated, at least in a sense that average tiktokcel uses it

1. The difference between appealing and unappealing faces is their attractiveness
You can type in "cringe/idiot people", and I guarantee that you're gonna come across videos with unattractive people doing some weird shit, while you will rarely find attractive men doing the same illustrated as cringe or idiot. You will also never find people who you consider "conventionally unattractive but non-appealing" in neither of those videos – the amount of people who mathematically score high but look bad to a human eye is extremely low and can only be the result of what I'm about to touch upon in the next paragraph
2. Facial expressions
Yes, that is correct. The facial expression that you make on photos is what differentiates "low-appeal" and "high-appeal" pictures. If you take a look at those who people on this forum tend to call uncanny/unappealing tend to make goofy and exhibited facial expressions on pictures (Ellias De Poot and Jordan Barret). Now, I know Barret situatuon is a bit tricky because whatever facial expression he makes with his short face, he will look off, but here we can also catch upon the fact that his facial averageness is quite bad

3. Facial averageness
This thing y'all throw around on this forum without even realizing what it is, yeah. Facial averageness is how close an individual is to what an average person looks like. The reason I say y'all don't undrerstand what it is, is because average orger is dreaming of doing 15 jaw surgeries, which will eventually make your proportions far outside the normal range, shit like that looks uncanny to a human eye

4. Prettyboy appeal vs traditional masculine appeal
Now, a lot of disagreements around whether or not someone got appeal comes down to how friendly/sexually polarizing a person looks. What I mean by this is that unless someone looks like a sterotypical prettyboy/fuckboy, there are gonna be disagreements on whether or not they have appeal. To answer this, I wanna ask y'all a question: will someone who is objectively attractive but looks nothing like a stereotypical prettyboy/chad have less success than someone equally attractive who does? If you answered yes, then this site has rotten your brain to death. Women could care less if you look like some guy basement dwellers on ord idolize and jerk off to, as long as you're an attractive person and you're low inhib, you're gonna do good with women

5. People wanna find a good reason to rate themselves higher than they really are
An example of this can be HTNs or Chadlites underrating a Chad saying he has no appeal to create a framework in which they are any better off than a man who is obviously more attractive than them and to avoid accepting someone is doing better than them. The opposite can also be the case where a guy who is again clearly less attractive rates a more attractive guy the same as himself and attributes his superiority on the dating market to having "appeal". That's also done to avoid admitting getting mogged, since having less appeal than someone doesn't feel like getting mogged.
 
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Here before dnrd

Cringe thread tho, prettyboys and robust prettyboys are the superior life form
 
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ljundberg pill is brutal
 
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Here before dnrd

Cringe thread tho, prettyboys and robust prettyboys are the superior life form
Average 5'7 14 bidelt cutecel coper :
 
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Lyxguxx
 
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Average 5'7 14 bidelt cutecel coper :
I can't prettyboymax cuz my lower jaw is too much more developed than my upper one. Also long face and masculine nose

Maesthetic max is the only way for me, but I would still 100% cases choose to be a pretty boy

6ft btw. Idk how to measure bidelt, tried it once, got 22, realised it can't be and never tried again
 
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facial averageness is bs, what ppl call 'averageness' is usually good symmetry and not having failos

not having failos is a halo in itself, like perfect skin is a no-failo skin, and a halo
 
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facial averageness is bs, what ppl call 'averageness' is usually good symmetry and not having failos

not having failos is a halo in itself, like perfect skin is a no-failo skin, and a halo
True.
Muh "facial averageness" in sense that tiktokcels use it is just a lack of striking features or bones.

Tiktokcels will call you "appealing" if you look like an oofy doofy JFL.
 
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True.
Muh "facial averageness" in sense that tiktokcels use it is just a lack of striking features or bones.

Tiktokcels will call you "appealing" if you look like an oofy doofy JFL.
appeal for tiktokers = curly medium hair, 6'1+ and leanmaxxed
 
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Im lazy af to read but I’ll tell you a story

I was in Ireland, there was a beautiful Brazilian chick, big boobs, cute face and pretty ass. We were in the same class.

Once I’ve made a joke..she didn’t understood the joke. Man she was so fuckin stupid, such a boner killer.

She instantly disgusted me
 
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appeal for tiktokers = curly medium hair, 6'1+ and leanmaxxed
Some tiktokcel said that girls would choose him instead of Jon-Erik Hexum JFL.

Such a pathetic face. He looks like Jon-Erik Hexum's cuck.
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All this effort to get 3 reps. Meanwhile this gay ass thread got 23 reps. Think about it...
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Appealmaxx is true btw. An RTT maxxed HTN would have same appeal as a stereotypical chad in some locations. A gymcelled MTN can get better matches on tinder than a lanklet HTN
 
I can't prettyboymax cuz my lower jaw is too much more developed than my upper one. Also long face and masculine nose

Maesthetic max is the only way for me, but I would still 100% cases choose to be a pretty boy

6ft btw. Idk how to measure bidelt, tried it once, got 22, realised it can't be and never tried again
Why would you prefer to pretty boy maxx
 
Not a Word

Appeal is just Just Goods Bones + Sexually Dimorphism

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High trust + JB appeal

Just look at tik tok. Girls are thirsting over pretty boys and charismatic htns(rarely tho)

Also, I’m just bisexual and pretty boys are my type. So, I kinda wanna just be attracted to myself

Not really doable cuz of my slavic pheno and lower jaw being bigger than the upper one. Maybe after bimax, but still questionable
 
Finally someone said this, im so tired all these Tiktokcels saying "he is high PSL but Low appeal". Like that's not even scientifically fucking possible
 
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Why appeal is overrated, at least in a sense that average tiktokcel uses it

1. The difference between appealing and unappealing faces is their attractiveness
You can type in "cringe/idiot people", and I guarantee that you're gonna come across videos with unattractive people doing some weird shit, while you will rarely find attractive men doing the same illustrated as cringe or idiot. You will also never find people who you consider "conventionally unattractive but non-appealing" in neither of those videos – the amount of people who mathematically score high but look bad to a human eye is extremely low and can only be the result of what I'm about to touch upon in the next paragraph
2. Facial expressions
Yes, that is correct. The facial expression that you make on photos is what differentiates "low-appeal" and "high-appeal" pictures. If you take a look at those who people on this forum tend to call uncanny/unappealing tend to make goofy and exhibited facial expressions on pictures (Ellias De Poot and Jordan Barret). Now, I know Barret situatuon is a bit tricky because whatever facial expression he makes with his short face, he will look off, but here we can also catch upon the fact that his facial averageness is quite bad

3. Facial averageness
This thing y'all throw around on this forum without even realizing what it is, yeah. Facial averageness is how close an individual is to what an average person looks like. The reason I say y'all don't undrerstand what it is, is because average orger is dreaming of doing 15 jaw surgeries, which will eventually make your proportions far outside the normal range, shit like that looks uncanny to a human eye

4. Prettyboy appeal vs traditional masculine appeal
Now, a lot of disagreements around whether or not someone got appeal comes down to how friendly/sexually polarizing a person looks. What I mean by this is that unless someone looks like a sterotypical prettyboy/fuckboy, there are gonna be disagreements on whether or not they have appeal. To answer this, I wanna ask y'all a question: will someone who is objectively attractive but looks nothing like a stereotypical prettyboy/chad have less success than someone equally attractive who does? If you answered yes, then this site has rotten your brain to death. Women could care less if you look like some guy basement dwellers on ord idolize and jerk off to, as long as you're an attractive person and you're low inhib, you're gonna do good with women

5. People wanna find a good reason to rate themselves higher than they really are
An example of this can be HTNs or Chadlites underrating a Chad saying he has no appeal to create a framework in which they are any better off than a man who is obviously more attractive than them and to avoid accepting someone is doing better than them. The opposite can also be the case where a guy who is again clearly less attractive rates a more attractive guy the same as himself and attributes his superiority on the dating market to having "appeal". That's also done to avoid admitting getting mogged, since having less appeal than someone doesn't feel like getting mogged.
Appeal = pretty boy, girls like that, women don't
 
Yeah appeal very real if you get work done that makes you look uncanny obv.
 
Facial expressions
Yes, that is correct. The facial expression that you make on photos is what differentiates "low-appeal" and "high-appeal" pictures. If you take a look at those who people on this forum tend to call uncanny/unappealing tend to make goofy and exhibited facial expressions on pictures (Ellias De Poot and Jordan Barret). Now, I know Barret situatuon is a bit tricky because whatever facial expression he makes with his short face, he will look off, but here we can also catch upon the fact that his facial averageness is quite bad
I knw a girl who has pretty much stacy model tier bones (ridiculous maxilla and pallate width) but she smiles really hard in all her insa photos she looks like a hobo 5/10 girl. She has like 1 post not smiling just neutral face literally 11/10. I showed my friends they All agreed (we have all seen her irl too)
 
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Yeah appeal very real if you get work done that makes you look uncanny obv.
That also messes up your objective attractiveness too
 
Appealmaxx is true btw. An RTT maxxed HTN would have same appeal as a stereotypical chad in some locations. A gymcelled MTN can get better matches on tinder than a lanklet HTN
that's different from the "appeal" tiktokcels talk about. what you're talking about is SMV which is your actual irl attractiveness, taking everything into account. That's something people on this forum (hell even lookism.net) have discussed for ages and is actually legit.
 

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