why ascending may lead to predetermined self destruction

[ajshabs]

most people think failure is what ruins you
but for a lot of guys, real collapse starts after they ascend

especially if it happens fast, and from a low baseline (like ltn or sub5)

this is because your identity forms during years of rejection, invisibility, and low social value
if you suddenly gain looks/status, your brain doesn’t adapt instantly, your nervous system is still wired for scarcity — not abundance

this creates a mismatch: externally, you’re being treated like a high-value male but internally, you still feel like a low-tier outcast

so you can’t trust the new attention, you think it’s fake or conditional (which it is) you assume people only like you for your appearance (which is also true) and paranoia starts creeping in

which can lead to self destruction

cutting people off even if they didn’t change
sabotaging relationships before they grow
thinking you’re better than people (as a cope for still feeling insecure)
dropping routines because “you made it” already

you start chasing validation to keep the high going but it never hits the same — because your brain was never built to process it and because there’s no core identity behind the glow-up, just trauma and compensation, you break - no foundation, no stable personality — just reactions and dopamine loops



true ascension means updating both your appearance and your identity model. otherwise, your life will upgrade — but you won’t know how to live in it.

 

[ajshabs]

bump

 

[FutureER]

Yes

 

[Foreverbrad]

This already happened the first time I looksmaxxed tbh. It’s very true. I sm sure round 2 will be no different, it is what it is.

 

[ajshabs]

This already happened the first time I looksmaxxed tbh. It’s very true. I sm sure round 2 will be no different, it is what it is.

yep this is what happened to me the first time i ascended.

i also do not expect anything different the second time round jfl

 

[RealNinja]

Spot on. Here’s my before and after for reference.

The personality/identity mismatch that you described not only causes internal conflict but also social conflict. If you’re quiet, reserved, or socially awkward/maladjusted from years of living as a fat ugly invisible person, people project insane amounts of shit onto you. Think you’re weird, judgmental, scary, rude, etcetera etcetera

Being good looking sometimes gives you more leeway for social awkwardness, but also often gives you less leeway. Especially with girls. A lot of them expect you to have an outgoing/slayer personality and then get disappointed or become cold and standoffish when they realize that isn’t you.

 

[Petsmart]

I am a victim of this

 

[Zzure]

most people think failure is what ruins you
but for a lot of guys, real collapse starts after they ascend

especially if it happens fast, and from a low baseline (like ltn or sub5)

this is because your identity forms during years of rejection, invisibility, and low social value
if you suddenly gain looks/status, your brain doesn’t adapt instantly, your nervous system is still wired for scarcity — not abundance

this creates a mismatch: externally, you’re being treated like a high-value male but internally, you still feel like a low-tier outcast

so you can’t trust the new attention, you think it’s fake or conditional (which it is) you assume people only like you for your appearance (which is also true) and paranoia starts creeping in

which can lead to self destruction

cutting people off even if they didn’t change
sabotaging relationships before they grow
thinking you’re better than people (as a cope for still feeling insecure)
dropping routines because “you made it” already

you start chasing validation to keep the high going but it never hits the same — because your brain was never built to process it and because there’s no core identity behind the glow-up, just trauma and compensation, you break - no foundation, no stable personality — just reactions and dopamine loops



true ascension means updating both your appearance and your identity model. otherwise, your life will upgrade — but you won’t know how to live in it.

Eliminating the competition

 

[KKKuroiso]

Spot on. Here’s my before and after for reference.

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The personality/identity mismatch that you described not only causes internal conflict but also social conflict. If you’re quiet, reserved, or socially awkward/maladjusted from years of living as a fat ugly invisible person, people project insane amounts of shit onto you. Think you’re weird, judgmental, scary, rude, etcetera etcetera

Being good looking sometimes gives you more leeway for social awkwardness, but also often gives you less leeway. Especially with girls. A lot of them expect you to have an outgoing/slayer personality and then get disappointed or become cold and standoffish when they realize that isn’t you.

That's a nice ascencion!! Are you the 16 yrs old 6'2 guy from the rating Section?

 

[pprimus43]

most people think failure is what ruins you
but for a lot of guys, real collapse starts after they ascend

especially if it happens fast, and from a low baseline (like ltn or sub5)

this is because your identity forms during years of rejection, invisibility, and low social value
if you suddenly gain looks/status, your brain doesn’t adapt instantly, your nervous system is still wired for scarcity — not abundance

this creates a mismatch: externally, you’re being treated like a high-value male but internally, you still feel like a low-tier outcast

so you can’t trust the new attention, you think it’s fake or conditional (which it is) you assume people only like you for your appearance (which is also true) and paranoia starts creeping in

which can lead to self destruction

cutting people off even if they didn’t change
sabotaging relationships before they grow
thinking you’re better than people (as a cope for still feeling insecure)
dropping routines because “you made it” already

you start chasing validation to keep the high going but it never hits the same — because your brain was never built to process it and because there’s no core identity behind the glow-up, just trauma and compensation, you break - no foundation, no stable personality — just reactions and dopamine loops



true ascension means updating both your appearance and your identity model. otherwise, your life will upgrade — but you won’t know how to live in it.

High IQ post

 

[Halcyon0x]

most people think failure is what ruins you
but for a lot of guys, real collapse starts after they ascend

especially if it happens fast, and from a low baseline (like ltn or sub5)

this is because your identity forms during years of rejection, invisibility, and low social value
if you suddenly gain looks/status, your brain doesn’t adapt instantly, your nervous system is still wired for scarcity — not abundance

this creates a mismatch: externally, you’re being treated like a high-value male but internally, you still feel like a low-tier outcast

so you can’t trust the new attention, you think it’s fake or conditional (which it is) you assume people only like you for your appearance (which is also true) and paranoia starts creeping in

which can lead to self destruction

cutting people off even if they didn’t change
sabotaging relationships before they grow
thinking you’re better than people (as a cope for still feeling insecure)
dropping routines because “you made it” already

you start chasing validation to keep the high going but it never hits the same — because your brain was never built to process it and because there’s no core identity behind the glow-up, just trauma and compensation, you break - no foundation, no stable personality — just reactions and dopamine loops



true ascension means updating both your appearance and your identity model. otherwise, your life will upgrade — but you won’t know how to live in it.