Why couldn't God just forgive us?

[Atomic344]

Because true justice means evil must be accounted for, so God doesn’t ignore sin but, through Jesus Christ, takes the punishment Himself to forgive without compromising justice.

 

[EmperorVon]

Complete nonsense. Explain this to me, god is all powerful and all knowing which means nothing gets past him and he knows all possibilities, so when he created Adam and Eve with a specific nature he knew they would eat the apple and doom humanity as it’s all his plan, he also created Satan with a specific nature and so on. There is no such thing as free will in Abarhamism, there’s only a sick sadistic god using his creations as a play thing for his story.

 

[Atomic344]

Complete nonsense. Explain this to me, god is all powerful and all knowing which means nothing gets past him and he knows all possibilities, so when he created Adam and Eve with a specific nature he knew they would eat the apple and doom humanity as it’s all his plan, he also created Satan with a specific nature and so on. There is no such thing as free will in Abarhamism, there’s only a sick sadistic god using his creations as a play thing for his story.

His Story is ETERNALLY OP

 

[EmperorVon]

His Story is ETERNALLY OP

Keep worshipping your made up Jew god empowering the Jews

 

[Atomic344]

Keep worshipping your made up Jew god empowering the Jews

fef

 

[Atomic344]

Keep worshipping your made up Jew god empowering the Jews

Jesus judged the Jews in 70AD - they got demolished it was Jesus's judgement that He nd others foretold

 

[EmperorVon]

Jesus judged the Jews in 70AD - they got demolished it was Jesus's judgement that He nd others foretold

He didn’t do shit, he wasn’t even a real person let alone have magical powers

 

[Atomic344]

He didn’t do shit, he wasn’t even a real person let alone have magical powers

Have you read the Book of Revelation?

"These things WILL happen soon... Look - He comes with the clouds of Heaven and every eye will see Him even those who pierced Him"

Coming with the clouds was often refered to in the Old Testament as God coming in Judgement on a city or nation or army.

Jesus did this to Jerusalem in 70AD

 

[jrown]

He didn’t do shit, he wasn’t even a real person let alone have magical powers

aight I agreed w all ur other posts but why do you not beleive Jesus is real?

 

[EmperorVon]

aight I agreed w all ur other posts but why do you not beleive Jesus is real?

He’s a clearly made up figure, no contemporary sources, the oldest sources are decades after he supposedly died and he reads like fiction, he was made up by a fringe Jewish sect who read through the texts for Moshiach, also most of the supposed eye witnesses of him didn’t even claim to see him alive but in visions or post death

 

[ArimaWillAscend]

Because true justice means evil must be accounted for, so God doesn’t ignore sin but, through Jesus Christ, takes the punishment Himself to forgive without compromising justice.

I'm not forgiving you fags because you've caused my vessel suffering so fucking suffer with my vessel

 

[Atomic344]

He’s a clearly made up figure, no contemporary sources, the oldest sources are decades after he supposedly died and he reads like fiction, he was made up by a fringe Jewish sect who read through the texts for Moshiach, also most of the supposed eye witnesses of him didn’t even claim to see him alive but in visions or post death

Lies, Gospels were written within 100 years of his death.

 

[EmperorVon]

Lies, Gospels were written within 100 years of his death.

Proving my point

 

[Atomic344]

Proving my point

Paul writes that 500 witnesses saw Jesus alive after He rose again that is within 1-2 years after Jesus died.

Majority of scholars atheist/agnostic admit the disciples thought they saw jesus risen.

that he existed.

 

[EmperorVon]

Paul writes that 500 witnesses saw Jesus alive after He rose again that is within 1-2 years after Jesus died.

Majority of scholars atheist/agnostic admit the disciples thought they saw jesus risen.

that he existed.

That’s complete and utter nonsense, eye witness testimonies are the least reliable and that’s Saul the Pharisee making it up in the first place who btw never even met Jesus in the flesh, my god you Christ slaves are gullible

 

[Atomic344]

That’s complete and utter nonsense, eye witness testimonies are the least reliable and that’s Saul the Pharisee making it up in the first place who btw never even met Jesus in the flesh, my god you Christ slaves are gullible

Ok so don't believe historians who write that Caesaar crossed the Rubican River with his army, because not only was he writing it like 500-1000 years later, who was the eyewitness?

Lol, If you use your own historical method, then you MUST believe the Letters of paul and gospels

 

[Datto29]

fact check: trve. submit to christ

 

[EmperorVon]

Ok so don't believe historians who write that Caesaar crossed the Rubican River with his army, because not only was he writing it like 500-1000 years later, who was the eyewitness?

Lol, If you use your own historical method, then you MUST believe the Letters of paul and gospels

Julius Caesar has writings which he wrote HIMSELF not even comparable you retarded christcuck

 

[EmperorVon]

fact check: trve. submit to jews

 

[tittenoderarsch?]

Because true justice means evil must be accounted for, so God doesn’t ignore sin but, through Jesus Christ, takes the punishment Himself to forgive without compromising justice.

just don’t sin brootal

 

[Atomic344]

Julius Caesar has writings which he wrote HIMSELF not even comparable you retarded christcuck

where the TF DID HE WRITE HIMSELF HE CROSSED THE RUBICAN

 

[Atomic344]

This guy is funny because he's so petty he goes out of his way to hate Jesus it proves it's Spiritual and Satanic

"Ehhh JC pennyyyy"

So pathetic. Demons hate Jesus

 

[EmperorVon]

This guy is funny because he's so petty he goes out of his way to hate Jesus it proves it's Spiritual and Satanic

"Ehhh JC pennyyyy"

So pathetic. Demons hate Jesus

Doesn’t prove anything retard

 

[Atomic344]

Doesn’t prove anything retard

So....
Paul is trustworthy because, unlike Caesar writing about his own military actions, Paul’s letters were written under real persecution, risked his life, were circulated widely, and name-checked 500 living witnesses who could easily confirm or deny his claims, making it historically harder to fabricate.

 

[cryptt]

Ok so don't believe historians who write that Caesaar crossed the Rubican River with his army, because not only was he writing it like 500-1000 years later, who was the eyewitness?

Lol, If you use your own historical method, then you MUST believe the Letters of paul and gospels

How does that relate history has been altered so what's the point
he's right eye witness are not reliable and even you could write some story

 

[Atomic344]

How does that relate history has been altered so what's the point
he's right eye witness are not reliable and even you could write some story

Paul is trustworthy because, unlike Caesar writing about his own military actions, Paul’s letters were written under real persecution, risked his life, were circulated widely, and name-checked 500 living witnesses who could easily confirm or deny his claims, making it historically harder to fabricate.

 

[EmperorVon]

So....
Paul is trustworthy because, unlike Caesar writing about his own military actions, Paul’s letters were written under real persecution, risked his life, were circulated widely, and name-checked 500 living witnesses who could easily confirm or deny his claims, making it historically harder to fabricate.

Muslim martyrs suffer and blow themselves up for Allah so why not worship Allah? So what if someone is persecuted for their beliefs doesn’t even make it 1% true, Marxists used to be persecuted in Imperial Russia, so are you a Marxist too?

 

[Atomic344]

Muslim martyrs suffer and blow themselves up for Allah so why not worship Allah? So what if someone is persecuted for their beliefs doesn’t even make it 1% true, Marxists used to be persecuted in Imperial Russia, so are you a Marxist too?

Yeah but Muslims are brainwashed

Marxist wanted political gain and shit right?

You claim Paul purposely maliciously lied knowing he is lying and putting himself in danger.

 

[cryptt]

Paul is trustworthy because, unlike Caesar writing about his own military actions, Paul’s letters were written under real persecution, risked his life, were circulated widely, and name-checked 500 living witnesses who could easily confirm or deny his claims, making it historically harder to fabricate.

How does that prove anything even if made it harder it can be done its not that hard to convince people about your ideologies and was probably easier back then

Yeah but Muslims are brainwashed

Marxist wanted political gain and shit right?

You claim Paul purposely maliciously lied knowing he is lying and putting himself in danger.

How do u call the other religion followers brainwashed while trying to prove your as the Supreme one

 

[Atomic344]

How does that prove anything even it made it harder it can be done its not that hard to convince people about your ideologies and was probably easier back then

How do u call the other religion followers brainwashed while trying to prove your as the Supreme one

Mohammad had everything to gain, he ended up rich, powerful, wealthy, slaves, wives, pedo.

Paul was a pharisee, had a supernatural experience, joined the same movement he was persecuting (God is a boss for that)


and Paul risked his life for it, nothing to gain on this earth by lying but death and persecution yet still did it.

 

[cryptt]

Mohammad had everything to gain, he ended up rich, powerful, wealthy, slaves, wives, pedo.

Paul was a pharisee, had a supernatural experience, joined the same movement he was persecuting (God is a boss for that)


and Paul risked his life for it, nothing to gain on this earth by lying but death and persecution yet still did it.

Nothing against Christians but how does risking your life for smth prove something

 

[Atomic344]

Nothing against Christians but how does risking your life for smth prove something

Shows it's HIGHLY UNLIKELY ANYONE would purposely knowingly do all this shit for a LIE they know they made up.

Payoff is really bad.

 

[Jensonsahighlander]

cope copeeee copeeee you troooollll