Why do mens standards go to the ground when they try online dating?

[johnnydeep222]

My sister is overweight,27 year-old, Asian Indian(American) lady with quite a lot acne. She can't even get a boyfriend in real life. However, she gets loads of messages from thirsty men online. She just went on a date with a handsome/Chad-lite , white doctor who she met online.

Makes no sense.

 

[Deleted member 275]

Because female standards go to the moon in online dating. If you want to get any matches, you need to lower your standards to the ground.

 

[Deleted member 656]

Don't understand why this is the case tbh

When I'm swiping I might see like 1 in 5 which are decent. Who is swiping on ugly af women???

 

[alligatordude]

i doubt a chad lite doctor went on a date with your landwhale pimply foreign sister

 

[johnnydeep222]

Because female standards go to the moon in online dating. If you want to get any matches, you need to lower your standards to the ground.

Could he not find someone better in real life? He is a doctor and a Chad-lite.

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Cuz it’s harder bro

 

[johnnydeep222]

i doubt a chad lite doctor went on a date with your landwhale pimply foreign sister

She did.

 

[alligatordude]

She did.

that nigga retarded

 

[johnnydeep222]

Cuz it’s harder bro

Could he not find someone better in real life? He is a doctor and a Chad-lite.

Is he just socially fucked or something?

 

[Deleted member 275]

Could he not find someone better in real life? He is a doctor and a Chad-lite.

Yes real life is better, but depending on your hobbies, job type and social circle, you might not meet many new women in your life.

 

[johnnydeep222]

that nigga retarded

Make a Tinder account as a foid. You will get the same results.

Yes real life is better, but depending on your hobbies, job type and social circle, you might not meet many new women in your life.

True, but doctors talk to people all the time. Nurses, other doctors, patients, secretaries etc.

 

[Deleted member 275]

Don't understand why this is the case tbh

When I'm swiping I might see like 1 in 5 which are decent. Who is swiping on ugly af women???

If I swipe every women I can get 50 matches in like 2 days time after just creating a profile. But 90% will be ugly so I only get 5 'real' matches. After a week or so, I don't get any real matches anymore.

Atleast I can brag on anonymous internet forums with my 50 matches even though they are all whales tbh so its better.

 

[alligatordude]

tell ur sister to lose weight

 

[johnnydeep222]

If I swipe every women I can get 50 matches in like 2 days time after just creating a profile. But 90% will be ugly so I only get 5 'real' matches. After a week or so, I don't get any real matches anymore.

Atleast I can brag on anonymous internet forums with my 50 matches even though they are all whales tbh so its better.

I got 60 matches in 4 months but almost all of them are either obese or won't respond to my messages. Waste of time.

 

[Deleted member 656]

If I swipe every women I can get 50 matches in like 2 days time after just creating a profile. But 90% will be ugly so I only get 5 'real' matches. After a week or so, I don't get any real matches anymore.

Atleast I can brag on anonymous internet forums with my 50 matches even though they are all whales tbh so its better.

It's the principle

Gives you bragging rights but undermines everyone including you in the long run.

 

[Deleted member 275]

Make a Tinder account as a foid. You will get the same results.

True, but doctors talk to people all the time. Nurses, other doctors, patients, secretaries etc.

If he is the type to follow 'rules' like not dating patients, not dating co-workers, etc. because it's 'not-done' then all those options are removed. Considering he is a doctor and studied for so many years, he is most likely one of those types of guys just like most guys that perform well academically.

It's the principle

Gives you bragging rights but undermines everyone including you in the long run.

I don't message them though Very rarely do they send a first msg which I will then ghost. If I am bored I troll them sometimes by using lookism/looksmax topic titles as conversation sentences like some other guy did in the past lol.

 

[johnnydeep222]

If he is the type to follow 'rules' like not dating patients, not dating co-workers, etc. because it's 'not-done' then all those options are removed. Considering he is a doctor and studied for so many years, he is most likely one of those types of guys just like most guys that perform well academically.

People meet each other at work all the time. Its not illegal or against work policy (99% of the time.) Is he really that moral that he would reject Stacy's and force himself to date some fat, Indian lady just because he doesn't want to date another employee?

 

[tylerhunter97]

Social media is fake. I like many below average to average foids on dating apps, however when the shit seems to get real I dip. I’d rather not have sex than fuck a below average chick

 

[Deleted member 275]

People meet each other at work all the time. Its not illegal or against work policy (99% of the time.) Is he really that moral that he would reject Stacy's and force himself to date some fat, Indian lady just because he doesn't want to date another employee?

Well first of all, I really doubt he is a chadlite because then indeed it doesn't make sense to date fat girls. He would match plenty of avg girls on dating apps if he is truly chadlite(6psl) and get ioi's in his daily life aswell. So you are over-rating and he is most likely an above avg normie.


Now considering he is above avg, his options are basically a ~looksmatched above avg girl or lower. Stacylite if he's really lucky, stacies are completely out of reach.

But the guy has been studying for most of his life due to being a doctor and that most likely makes him boring/high inhib/too smart for most chicks. Most likely also low dating/relationship experience, low self-esteem aswell since being heavy in academia doesn't really promote those kind of things. Also it shows because otherwise he wouldn't be going for fat chicks.

Considering all that, realistically right now, his options at best is most likely dating an avg-looking co-worker. Which he then thinks can risk things becoming awkward at work if it doesnt work-out. Considering he is inexperienced and doesn't really want other people to know about this either, he can decide to just shut off that part of his life while at work and keep it a secret.

At this point, dating fat chicks becomes a reasonable option for a desperate guy like him.

That's just the state of life for many men nowadays. Brutal

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Could he not find someone better in real life? He is a doctor and a Chad-lite.

Is he just socially fucked or something?

Maybe. Its just more competition, more males competing for the same few women that use these dating apps

 

[johnnydeep222]

Well first of all, I really doubt he is a chadlite because then indeed it doesn't make sense to date fat girls. He would match plenty of avg girls on dating apps if he is truly chadlite(6psl) and get ioi's in his daily life aswell. So you are over-rating and he is most likely an above avg normie.


Now considering he is above avg, his options are basically a ~looksmatched above avg girl or lower. Stacylite if he's really lucky, stacies are completely out of reach.

But the guy has been studying for most of his life due to being a doctor and that most likely makes him boring/high inhib/too smart for most chicks. Most likely also low dating/relationship experience, low self-esteem aswell since being heavy in academia doesn't really promote those kind of things. Also it shows because otherwise he wouldn't be going for fat chicks.

Considering all that, realistically right now, his options at best is most likely dating an avg-looking co-worker. Which he then thinks can risk things becoming awkward at work if it doesnt work-out. Considering he is inexperienced and doesn't really want other people to know about this either, he can decide to just shut off that part of his life while at work and keep it a secret.

At this point, dating fat chicks becomes a reasonable option for a desperate guy like him.

That's just the state of life for many men nowadays. Brutal

Interesting. Thanks for the information brother.

 

[eduardkoopman]

My sister is overweight,27 year-old, Asian Indian(American) lady with quite a lot acne. She can't even get a boyfriend in real life. However, she gets loads of messages from thirsty men online. She just went on a date with a handsome/Chad-lite , white doctor who she met online.

Makes no sense.

It only makes a bit more sense. When you know: WAY more men are fishing online/datingApps for women, then the other way around.
DatingApps, are like living in place where there are only 50 women for every 100 men. Or even worse. It's like a village, where murders have come, and killed of 50+% of all the females (and non of the males). Obviously, the males in that society are going to have a really shitty dating time.

While in real society in most countries, the male-female ratio is often a bit around 1. Most often it's like 98 women for every 100 men (below the age of 40).

Aka. Online/DatingApp, is the most harsh dating location/envirnment for men.
It's also the place, that all males go to whom are to scared to chat yp women or have an outgoing social life and meet women that way. or whichever other ways, men meet women, outside of the computer/phone/app/screen world.


To proof my point:
Quotes from 2 article about tinder and datingapps data:

"male dating app user greatly outnumber their female counterparts in each of the cities in question. The closest we have to parity is again in Spain, with around two men for every woman in Madrid. Things look the worst for male dating app users in New York, where the ratio stands at 3:17. London is not too far behind at 1:5."
"According to SimpleTexting, Tinder is comfortably the most popular app among both men and women in the US, with 50% of men and just under 35% of women reporting that they used the app – giving a ratio of 7:10"
"Men outnumber women on Tinder by 9 to 1"
" a massive gender imbalance amongst dating app users in various countries. This imbalance was greatest in Italy – where 91% of dating app users are male"
"• 85% of the UK’s dating app user base is male. On Tinder this figure is even higher, with roughly one female user for every nine male users. "American women are slightly more likely than those in Europe to use dating apps, but still only make up 27% of users overall. In comparison, only 15% of British dating app users are women. This trend was even noticeable amongst more “female-friendly” apps like Bumble, (where female users have to send the first message), whose user base is over 80% male."

sources:

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[Deleted member 275]

While in real society in most countries, the male-female ratio is often a bit around 1. Most often it's like 98 women for every 100 men (below the age of 40).

2:1 male:female ratio's are very common in clubs/bars/social events or anywhere you would go to meet women though so real life is not that much worse than online dating. A lot of women would rather be single than date non-chads so you can't really look at total amount of women/men like that.

But yeah, online-dating is by far the most shitty place to meet women.

 

[Deleted member 4209]

well my standards are already non existent pretty much

i dont deserve standards

 

[eduardkoopman]

But yeah, online-dating is by far the most shitty place to meet women.

I agree, by a long shot online/apps is the most brutal place to "meet"/find women.

2:1 male:female ratio's are very common in clubs/bars/social events or anywhere you would go to meet women though so real life is not that much worse than online dating. A lot of women would rather be single than date non-chads so you can't really look at total amount of women/men like that.

I have to half agree, and half disagree.
At clubs and bars; it's often also a bit of a cockfest. Any place that men go to, because they think they might possibly easy score sex with a random woman is a fucked up (cockfest) location most often.

Social events. I don't recall it being cockfests, often even more chicks come up there ime then men. Like recently i went to the new-year party of the sports club I'm a member from. And there were more women there than men, deffo like 60% female orso.
At a customer his company party, there was like 60+% females. The religuous club I'm joining some times, is also way more females that attend these gatherings and meetups, actually there it's even like 70% female.
So, I don't see that ratio mis-match (from the male perspective) at social events.

Then, there also exist "daily life". Shops, Grocery shop, streets, public transport, etc.. The ratio is back to normal again. In that sense, the "daygame" pua's didn't have it that wrong, in concept. Since they saw, the ratio in daily life is good/normal again. Obviously chatting up women in daily life, is socially very stressfull for most dudes. But hitting the streets/shops/etc., can give you contact with women that you would never meet at a bar/club or would match with at online dating.
Social events in general, are imo often a good place to meet women. It's just that you need to be more carefull, because at these events you often have a reputation/status or something else to protect, so you can't be that forward or hardcore or hurting people as you could with random chatupps at bars or whatever other locations with randoms. I mean, no one wants to become the creepo, or laughing stock in the social group of there: sports club, company, religuous club, etc..

/end of essay. [fuck, i'm always writting essays]

 

[Deleted member 275]

I agree, by a long shot online/apps is the most brutal place to "meet"/find women.

It has it's value as a low effort passive way tbh as long as you some got good pics taken. Anything is still better than nothing, the odds in online dating are shit, but roll the dice often enough and you will struck something decent after a while. Met my ex through tinder for example and had a few pleasent dates. But overall it's hard to recommend it, unless the alternative is not doing anything at all.

I have to half agree, and half disagree.
At clubs and bars; it's often also a bit of a cockfest. Any place that men go to, because they think they might possibly easy score sex with a random woman is a fucked up cockfest.

Yup these places are awful.

Social events. I don't recall it being cockfests, often even more schicks come up then men.Like recently i went to the new-year party of the sports club I'm a memeber from. And there were more women there than men. It was fun.
Ar a customer his company party, there was like 60+% females. The religuos club I'm joining some times, is also way more females that attend these gatherings and meetups.
So, I don't see that ratio mis-match at social events.

Then in daily life. Shops, Grocery shop, streets, public transport, etc.. The ratio is back to normal again. In that sense, the "daygame" pua's didn't have it that wrong, in concept. Since they saw, the ratio in daily life is good/normal again. Obviously chatting up women in daily life, is socially very stressfull for most dudes. But hitting the streets, can give you contact with women that you would never meet at a bar/club or would match with at online dating.
Social events, are imo also really great places to meet women. It's just that you need to be more carefull, because at these events you often have a reputation/status or something else to protect, so you can't be that forward or hardcore or hurting people as you could with random chatupps.

/end of essay. [fuck, i'm always writting essays]

Yeah social events are better, but idk why I always end up at events where there's way more men. Partly locationcel I suppose where there's simply too many men here in my city cuz of STEM uni.

I definitely think that daygame in grocery shops, streets, etc. is something you can't afford to not take advantage of nowadays.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Yeah social events are better, but idk why I always end up at events where there's way more men. Partly locationcel I suppose where there's simply too many men here in my city cuz of STEM uni.

Delft. I had one freind/acquintance once; he was in delft. he stopped aftre the first year, and went to Amsterdam to study there. His dating life difference from Delft and Amstrdam; was almost like the difference between night and day. he was also locationcel in Delft. That guy had good looks, but was a bit short. he also was massively smooth with talking.
He managed to score plenty in Amsterdam. We are talking 10+ years ago, that I last saw him

I definitely think that daygame in grocery shops, streets, etc. is something you can't afford to not take advantage of nowadays.

It was kinda always like that. Although I do think the night scene was likely a little bit better back then. But picking up chciks in the daytimes, was ofte kinda the norm back in the days. My grand parents met each other, hanging outside. Th problem nowadays is a bit. that you are seen as strange/different when you are bing social "out and about"; whereas in older time everyone was more soical/talkative "out and about". It was more normal back then. It's still funny. Because often old people walking around still say "hi" to almost anyone (strangers) they are passing by; my mother is even like that still.

The akward thing with being soical nowadays is a bit. everyone notices it, so you get massive attention (and pressure) that you have to learn to deal with. Plus people are less social savy/capable overall; so you need to compensate a bit for people not being so savy and do most of the taling at least in the beginning.

 

[Deleted member 3162]

Testosterone, sadly. A gift and a curse

 

[johnnydeep222]

Testosterone, sadly. A gift and a curse

And desperation. Online dating has fucked the dating market.

I agree, by a long shot online/apps is the most brutal place to "meet"/find women.

I have to half agree, and half disagree.
At clubs and bars; it's often also a bit of a cockfest. Any place that men go to, because they think they might possibly easy score sex with a random woman is a fucked up (cockfest) location most often.

Social events. I don't recall it being cockfests, often even more chicks come up there ime then men. Like recently i went to the new-year party of the sports club I'm a member from. And there were more women there than men, deffo like 60% female orso.
At a customer his company party, there was like 60+% females. The religuous club I'm joining some times, is also way more females that attend these gatherings and meetups, actually there it's even like 70% female.
So, I don't see that ratio mis-match (from the male perspective) at social events.

Then, there also exist "daily life". Shops, Grocery shop, streets, public transport, etc.. The ratio is back to normal again. In that sense, the "daygame" pua's didn't have it that wrong, in concept. Since they saw, the ratio in daily life is good/normal again. Obviously chatting up women in daily life, is socially very stressfull for most dudes. But hitting the streets/shops/etc., can give you contact with women that you would never meet at a bar/club or would match with at online dating.
Social events in general, are imo often a good place to meet women. It's just that you need to be more carefull, because at these events you often have a reputation/status or something else to protect, so you can't be that forward or hardcore or hurting people as you could with random chatupps at bars or whatever other locations with randoms. I mean, no one wants to become the creepo, or laughing stock in the social group of there: sports club, company, religuous club, etc..

/end of essay. [fuck, i'm always writting essays]

Daygame only works for Chads. They could go on Tinder and fuck women instead of going up to random foids

 

[johnnydeep222]

UPDATE: The Chad-lite doctor was dating another girl and my sister found out.