why do people roid?

[appeal]

why sacrifice hair and skin for some muscle?

 

[n9wiff]

Some are troons like @SubhumanForever

 

[NZb6Air]

quick bidelt

 

[s6hizo]

increased bone mass in face making you have a sharp face and sometimes height. It will make you ogre tho if abused + health problems

 

[Deleted member 85196]

increased bone mass in face making you have a sharp face and sometimes height. It will make you ogre tho if abused + health problems

Most facial development is determined before 16 I think so must of it is cope

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

you dont need to sacrifice hair and skin. and the reason is to get gains quicker and better than naturally possible. if you roid properly its a no brainer tbh assuming you can afford it

 

[appeal]

dont need to sacrifice hair and skin

how? all anabolic have risk of hair loss esp if your genetically disposed

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

how? all anabolic have risk of hair loss esp if your genetically disposed

because you take steps to prevent hair loss - minoxidil, ketoconazole, finasteride, dutasteride, ru58841 etc

 

[RealNinja]

Because it lets you surpass your natural limitations or reach those limitations a lot more quickly and easily. Some people just want to get huge and become freaks. You can’t become a freak naturally. Roiding (depending on the drugs you use and dosages) can also make up for bad training diet and sleep.

They make muscle protein synthesis more efficient, so you can still grow even if you aren’t eating enough calories and/or protein. Roids artificially boost your T levels through the roof so you can still grow even if you’re not sleeping well, getting sunlight, using drugs, or doing other shit that lowers your T. Some guys roid and you wouldn’t even be able to tell by looking at them, they just want to feel good and maintain a fit physique while eating what they want and being inconsistent in the gym.

There are ways to maintain your skin and hair quality. Minoxidil/finasteride/dutasteride/RU58841 can help a lot. With a good haircare routine (proper conditioning and moisturizing) your hair can still look healthy. There’s a shit ton of supplements you can take to boost collagen synthesis in your body, plus topicals like tretinoin to help with facial aging like wrinkles and nasolabial folds.

 

[Deleted member 88653]

Most people roid because they don't know how to train hard as a natural, so they don't make any gains, so they get on the drugs and proceed to make slightly more gains. However, if you've been training for a long time, and you know what you're doing in the gym and everything is optimized, then you can take full advantage of a steroid cycle, but still, with the proper knowledge, you can achieve this physique naturally:

And that is pretty much the cut-off point for attracting women. Going beyond that isn't going to do much, since that is a gymmaxxed body.

With steroids, you can get a lot more massive but women don't care. So the only real benefit of roiding for looksmaxxing is being able to get to that physique in a lot less time, like maybe 1-2 years instead of 4-5 and if the average human life expectancy was like 25 years, then yeah roiding would be worth it, but the way I see it, taking a shortcut to get a 3 year headstart isn't worth having tiny testicles, and putting yourself at risk for organ failure in the future, I mean, realistically, you could be taking 10 years off your life, or more, depending on the dose you take.

Steroids also are more likely to make you have body dysmorphia because you get results so fast you can never really appreciate them. Ultimately, I prefer the natural route because you can only improve, and as you get into your 30s, you can be bigger than in your 20s if you still train as hard and with enough volume.

 

[RealNinja]

Most people roid because they don't know how to train hard as a natural, so they don't make any gains, so they get on the drugs and proceed to make slightly more gains. However, if you've been training for a long time, and you know what you're doing in the gym and everything is optimized, then you can take full advantage of a steroid cycle, but still, with the proper knowledge, you can achieve this physique naturally:

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And that is pretty much the cut-off point for attracting women. Going beyond that isn't going to do much, since that is a gymmaxxed body.

With steroids, you can get a lot more massive but women don't care. So the only real benefit of roiding for looksmaxxing is being able to get to that physique in a lot less time, like maybe 1-2 years instead of 4-5 and if the average human life expectancy was like 25 years, then yeah roiding would be worth it, but the way I see it, taking a shortcut to get a 3 year headstart isn't worth having tiny testicles, and putting yourself at risk for organ failure in the future, I mean, realistically, you could be taking 10 years off your life, or more, depending on the dose you take.

Steroids also are more likely to make you have body dysmorphia because you get results so fast you can never really appreciate them. Ultimately, I prefer the natural route because you can only improve, and as you get into your 30s, you can be bigger than in your 20s if you still train as hard and with enough volume.

Everytime I see you comment on a thread, you’re saying something wordy and long winded but also completely fucking retarded.

 

[Deleted member 88653]

Because it lets you surpass your natural limitations or reach those limitations a lot more quickly and easily. Some people just want to get huge and become freaks. You can’t become a freak naturally. Roiding (depending on the drugs you use and dosages) can also make up for bad training diet and sleep.

They make muscle protein synthesis more efficient, so you can still grow even if you aren’t eating enough calories and/or protein. Roids artificially boost your T levels through the roof so you can still grow even if you’re not sleeping well, getting sunlight, using drugs, or doing other shit that lowers your T. Some guys roid and you wouldn’t even be able to tell by looking at them, they just want to feel good and maintain a fit physique while eating what they want and being inconsistent in the gym.

There are ways to maintain your skin and hair quality. Minoxidil/finasteride/dutasteride/RU58841 can help a lot. With a good haircare routine (proper conditioning and moisturizing) your hair can still look healthy. There’s a shit ton of supplements you can take to boost collagen synthesis in your body, plus topicals like tretinoin to help with facial aging like wrinkles and nasolabial folds.

Truth is, yeah steroids can make up for a bad diet and bad training but you'll get less results if those variables aren't optimized, and that's kind of like wasting the cycle. And also, with the right knowledge and consistency, it's possible to get to the cut-off point where more muscle isn't viewed as more attractive to most women. But yeah, to become a fitness influencer who has millions of followers or to become a pro bodybuilder or powerlifter, steroids are necessary but you also need good genetics, not just for muscle building but specifically for strength for powerlifting, for insertion points and fat storage for bodybuilding. Without good genetics, no amount of drugs can make you look as aesthetic as someone like Zyzz or Jeff Seid.

 

[Deleted member 88653]

Everytime I see you comment on a thread, you’re saying something wordy and long winded but also completely fucking retarded.

Based on the average user age on here, I've probably been lifting for far longer than you've been an adult

 

[Deleted member 93678]

 

[Deleted member 88173]

why sacrifice hair and skin for some muscle?

It's not black and white like that , some use it as a base with low dosage to get more dimorphism and they stop using it after achieving that.
Hair loss depends on type of steroid, your genes , dosage of drug , etc

 

[Deleted member 88173]

Tbh if you are atleast average height and have a bodybuilder like physique (only possible with roids) you will experience chad level treatment from males and some milfs even though you won't survive for long .

 

[RealNinja]

Based on the average user age on here, I've probably been lifting for far longer than you've been an adult

You weigh like a buck 50, you’re small as shit

 

[Chinacurry]

why sacrifice hair and skin for some muscle?

Because social media and Disney have warped girls minds to the point that a roided physique is the baseline now

 

[Deleted member 88653]

You weigh like a buck 50, you’re small as shit

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Your issue is you compare yourself and others to steroid users, so you'll never be satisfied until you hop onto the gear yourself.

The only way to have a realistic comparison and to be proud of your progress is to compare your own progress pics to each other. I'm not saying someone who has bad genetics can be as big as someone with good genetics, but if they work harder and for more years, they can surpass them.