Why do some black peopl have caucasionoid skulls

[Blackout.xl]

Don't worry about him, I saw him on another post attacking East Africans. I'm not Somali/Ethiopian but I think he's just got it out for East Africans in general, his low IQ mind is just racist.

Shut the fuck up u dog

 

[jewelsandtools]

Literally look at any random documentary about the Congo and you will find like 10 guys with defined jaws and skulls jfl about white genes make your jaw good

Shut the fuck up u dog

I'm the dog but you're the one barking

 

[Mr.cope]

Literally look at any random documentary about the Congo and you will find like 10 guys with defined jaws and skulls jfl about white genes make your jaw good


I'm the dog but you're the one barking

Congo’s may have a defined jaw but they still have bimaxillary protrusion and recessed chins
Either have white genes or have North African genes

 

[AutisticBeaner]

you guys all have no idea what you're talking about

 

[fauxfox]

Because I’m an asshole

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[Blackout.xl]

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[jewelsandtools]

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[fauxfox]

I want black friends online can we all be friends?

Sure thing bro

 

[reptiles]

DNA mixing is kinda random. The males DNA is strongest though and there can go a couple generations without features showing until the right combination is made.
It's probably just because some white slayer raped a bunch of slaves and had mixed children that bred.

Source for this cause from what i've seen the opposite is true the mothers side is most heritable

 

[Danish_Retard]

Source for this cause from what i've seen the opposite is true the mothers side is most heritable

Can't be bothered to find source but it was on a thread on here discussing which traits came from which parent there it was said that about 60% of DNA will be male but a lot of the facial traits will be inherited from the mother, especially cheekbones and nose shape. Guess I can thank my mom for my subhuman nose.

 

[reptiles]

Can't be bothered to find source but it was on a thread on here discussing which traits came from which parent there it was said that about 60% of DNA will be male but a lot of the facial traits will be inherited from the mother, especially cheekbones and nose shape. Guess I can thank my mom for my subhuman nose.

Hmmmmmm fuck i hope not I was hoping we inherit our mother's side more

 

[Deleted member 1680]

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[Danish_Retard]

Hmmmmmm fuck i hope not I was hoping we inherit our mother's side more

I found the sources.

These are the features you’re most likely to inherit from your mum

They’re not as obvious as you might think.

www.stylist.co.uk

Scientists Reveal Which Genes Come From Your Mom and Which You Get From Your Dad

If you’ve heard someone tell you something like, “You are a copy of your mother,” you should know that this is a false statement. In fact, we (especially women) are more like our fathers, and not our mothers. Besides, there is a theory that a father’s lifestyle before the conception of the baby...

brightside.me

 

[Patriot]

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this is what the average ethiopian looks like

and no we dont have european genetics, actually we're the most pure africans usually, other africans can have part eurasian admixture etc.
caucasoid features =/= european dna. ethiopians and other people in the horn of africa have "caucasoid features" because thats where they originally come from. all non africans originated from a group that migrated from east africa 50,000 years ago, ethiopians and modern day east africans descended from part of that group which returned back to africa.

As far as I know there is no evidence to claim that Ethiopians are "most pure africans".
Also the "Out of Africa theory" usually claims that area somewhere around lake Victoria was the birthplace of homo sapiens spice.
Actually when we look for instance at Y chromosome haplogroups - the data show clear that Ethiopians have large non-african Y male haplogroups DNA admixture, for instance J haplogroup, which is probably the evidence of the ancient europid migrations from Asia.

Y-DNA haplogroups in populations of Sub-Saharan Africa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ancient migrations into Africa

"Quite remarkably, we see in Ethiopia about 20% - so a fifth - of the genome of people living there right now is actually of Eurasian origin, it actually comes from these farmers," explained Dr Manica.

I doubt ethiopians are very close at all.


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I highly doubt about ethiopians close though african americans are some what closer but i personally think it was a waste of european genes if curries got that i bet most southerners would look like northern indians and i bet northerners would start to look some what med.


And note a normal northern indian like a punjabi kids tend to look amazing.


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With 20 percent to 25 percent cause the average afro american has like 24 percent european genes with those genes i would expect south curries to start looking like punjabis and while they look like rats most times their kids tend to be giga moggers.

Interesting. The current genetic spectrum of Africa is not the same at it was 8.000 years. I am not saying they super-closely related to, let's say, euro-asian Indo-Europeans from ancient steppes but, probably, to some more ancient europoid migrations from the middle east (western asia). Apart from genetic issues, there are of course other factors that we should include - it is climate that results probably in the most extreme leptomorphic (or ectomorphic) bodies that do exist - very narrow frame and long limbs, prolonged skulls etc. Especially among Somalis.

Body Type

 

[reptiles]

As far as I know there is no evidence to claim that Ethiopians are "most pure africans".
Also the "Out of Africa theory" usually claims that area somewhere around lake Victoria was the birthplace of homo sapiens spice.
Actually when we look for instance at Y chromosome haplogroups - the data show clear that Ethiopians have large non-african Y male haplogroups DNA admixture, for instance J haplogroup, which is probably the evidence of the ancient europid migrations from Asia.

Y-DNA haplogroups in populations of Sub-Saharan Africa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ancient migrations into Africa

"Quite remarkably, we see in Ethiopia about 20% - so a fifth - of the genome of people living there right now is actually of Eurasian origin, it actually comes from these farmers," explained Dr Manica.

Interesting. The current genetic spectrum of Africa is not the same at it was 8.000 years. I am not saying they super-closely related to, let's say, euro-asian Indo-Europeans from ancient steppes but, probably, to some more ancient europoid migrations from the middle east (western asia). Apart from genetic issues, there are of course other factors that we should include - it is climate that results probably in the most extreme leptomorphic (or ectomorphic) bodies that do exist - very narrow frame and long limbs, prolonged skulls etc. Especially among Somalis.

Body Type

I heard of this based dude from the Dominican republic he got called dictator but he was the 1 who basically made it so that half the population has near 60 percent of European DNA.

To be fair his methods were unorthodox he killed a lot of people but look at what the Dominicans got out of it, higher iq more aesthetic faces 1 of the richest countries in latin america.The dudes name btw was Rafael Trujillo. He got called a dictator but i think he personally saved the Dominican republic.

Dudes like this could have fixed the gene pollution that comes with ethnics in general to bad he never existed in my country honestly was a hero in my eyes.Cause of him half of the domincan has up to 50 percent iberian.

 

[Deleted member 534]

Lol who care

 

[Patriot]

I heard of this based dude from the Dominican republic he got called dictator but he was the 1 who basically made it so that half the population has near 60 percent of European DNA.

To be fair his methods were unorthodox he killed a lot of people but look at what the Dominicans got out of it, higher iq more aesthetic faces 1 of the richest countries in latin america.The dudes name btw was Rafael Trujillo. He got called a dictator but i think he personally saved the Dominican republic.

Dudes like this could have fixed the gene pollution that comes with ethnics in general to bad he never existed in my country honestly was a hero in my eyes.Cause of him half of the domincan has up to 50 percent iberian.






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Damm, never heard of that. I know that Haiti is a s*ithole compared to Dominican rep, although they are both on the same Island. lel

 

[Deleted member 773]

makes your face longer, cheekbones get lower, face gets flatter. thats how white people look like

Explain me then, 100% european and mouth breath all my life

 

[reptiles]

I found the sources.

These are the features you’re most likely to inherit from your mum

They’re not as obvious as you might think.

www.stylist.co.uk

Scientists Reveal Which Genes Come From Your Mom and Which You Get From Your Dad

If you’ve heard someone tell you something like, “You are a copy of your mother,” you should know that this is a false statement. In fact, we (especially women) are more like our fathers, and not our mothers. Besides, there is a theory that a father’s lifestyle before the conception of the baby...

brightside.me

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Damm, never heard of that. I know that Haiti is a s*ithole compared to Dominican rep, although they are both on the same Island. lel

It's all cause of 1 man raphel true hello this man basically made it so Dominicans can't even be considered negro their so so white their whiter than fucking some arabs at times genetically they have upto 60 percent iberian.

Honestly i can say Dominicans lucked out on this.

 

[AutisticBeaner]

View attachment 398693Explain me then, 100% european and mouth breath all my life

you haven't breathed through your mouth all your life, i don't know why you're making such a claim

 

[Deleted member 773]

you haven't breathed through your mouth all your life, i don't know why you're making such a claim

Yes I have, mewing is cope

 

[AutisticBeaner]

Yes I have, mewing is cope

ah, that's why you're making bullshit claims

 

[Deleted member 773]

ah, that's why you're making bullshit claims

Nope, this is how Chico would look if he mouthbreathed actually

 

[ThatBoneStructure]

ideal mix is 1/4 white and 3/4 bbc and u get this slayer:
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He looks 1/2 white tbh.

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this is what the average ethiopian looks like

and no we dont have european genetics, actually we're the most pure africans usually, other africans can have part eurasian admixture etc.
caucasoid features =/= european dna. ethiopians and other people in the horn of africa have "caucasoid features" because thats where they originally come from. all non africans originated from a group that migrated from east africa 50,000 years ago, ethiopians and modern day east africans descended from part of that group which returned back to africa.

Ethiopians are ancestrally mixed race. Studies have shown that most Ethiopians are almost exactly half Eurasian genetically. You're the least "racially pure" people in all of sub-Saharan Africa.

East Africans don't have Caucasian ancestry though. This is coming from someone who's 100% East African. We're just a different flavor of black, not mixed.

Ethiopians and Somalis absolutely have Caucasian ancestry. Studies have shown that most Ethiopians are genetically half Eurasian, while Somalis are well over a quarter Eurasian. I can link you to several contemporary studies on this topic.

Wtf?

East Africans such as Ethiopians and Somalis are heavily mixed with Arabs, who are caucasoid.

You're absolutely right. Every recent study conducted on Ethiopian/Somali genetics points to them being heavily mixed with Eurasians. The average Ethiopian is 50% Caucasian genetically. The average Somali is 60% Caucasian genetically. There are countless studies confirming this. I don't understand why people deny it...

 

[Vidyacoper]

He looks 1/2 white tbh.


Ethiopians are ancestrally mixed race. Studies have shown that most Ethiopians are almost exactly half Eurasian genetically. You're the least "racially pure" people in all of sub-Saharan Africa.


Ethiopians and Somalis absolutely have Caucasian ancestry. Studies have shown that most Ethiopians are genetically half Eurasian, while Somalis are well over a quarter Eurasian. I can link you to several contemporary studies on this topic.


You're absolutely right. Every recent study conducted on Ethiopian/Somali genetics points to them being heavily mixed with Eurasians. The average Ethiopian is 50% Caucasian genetically. The average Somali is 60% Caucasian genetically. There are countless studies confirming this. I don't understand why people deny it...

really? link studies lol

 

[ThatBoneStructure]

really? link studies lol

http://anthromadness.blogspot.com/2015/07/horn-africans-mixture-between-east.html

Early Back-to-Africa Migration into the Horn of Africa

Author Summary The Horn of Africa (HOA) occupies a central place in our understanding of modern human origins. This region is the location of the earliest known modern human fossils, a possible source for the out-of-Africa migration, and one of the most genetically and linguistically diverse...

journals.plos.org

You won't be able to detect this ancient Caucasian DNA on a 23andMe test, because the 23andMe database has not established a thorough system for analysing East African DNA. You will be able to detect this ancestry on an Ancestry.com or GEDMatch test, though.

You're a heavily mixed race group of people. Embrace it.

 

[Alexanderr]

Title I’ve seen a few black people with Caucasianoid skulls and I’m wondering how do they end up with that skull
Also wat skull does Jeremy Meeks have

Because not all black people have the same genes. Some are related more to other races than they are to other black people.

 

[Vidyacoper]

http://anthromadness.blogspot.com/2015/07/horn-africans-mixture-between-east.html

Early Back-to-Africa Migration into the Horn of Africa

Author Summary The Horn of Africa (HOA) occupies a central place in our understanding of modern human origins. This region is the location of the earliest known modern human fossils, a possible source for the out-of-Africa migration, and one of the most genetically and linguistically diverse...

journals.plos.org

You won't be able to detect this ancient Caucasian DNA on a 23andMe test, because the 23andMe database has not established a thorough system for analysing East African DNA. You will be able to detect this ancestry on an Ancestry.com or GEDMatch test, though.

You're a heavily mixed race group of people. Embrace it.

learnt something new, thanks

 

[ThatBoneStructure]

learnt something new, thanks

No worries bro.

 

[hairyballscel]

He looks 1/2 white tbh.


Ethiopians are ancestrally mixed race. Studies have shown that most Ethiopians are almost exactly half Eurasian genetically. You're the least "racially pure" people in all of sub-Saharan Africa.


Ethiopians and Somalis absolutely have Caucasian ancestry. Studies have shown that most Ethiopians are genetically half Eurasian, while Somalis are well over a quarter Eurasian. I can link you to several contemporary studies on this topic.


You're absolutely right. Every recent study conducted on Ethiopian/Somali genetics points to them being heavily mixed with Eurasians. The average Ethiopian is 50% Caucasian genetically. The average Somali is 60% Caucasian genetically. There are countless studies confirming this. I don't understand why people deny it...

The study you linked is quite flawed...


This Ethio-Somali IAC is found at its highest frequencies in Cushitic speaking Somali populations and at high frequencies in neighboring Cushitic and Semitic speaking Afar, Amhara, Oromo, and Tygray populations. This IAC was not identified in the source study for the HOA SNP data [16], but Tishkoff and colleagues [59], in an analysis of an independent autosomal microsatellite dataset, did recover an equivalent IAC (calling it ‘‘Cushitic’’). While this Ethio-Somali IAC is found primarily in Africa, it has clear non-African affinities (Text S1).
The study admits that the non-African Ethio-Somali IAC was not discovered in the source study he used for the HOA SNP data, but then they say:

"but Tishkoff and colleagues" "did recover an equivalent IAC (calling it "Cushitic"). Then proceed to tell us that this IAC has clear non-African affinities. This is a lie because in the Tishkoff study the Cushitic IAC had clear African affinities:

Cushitic has a clear African affinity here and was born out of mixture between Ancient North African and Dinka like people...

 

[ThatBoneStructure]

The study you linked is quite flawed...

I have no doubt that the study has its imperfections; nonetheless, a constant occurrence in studies of Ethio/Somali DNA points to significant genetic input from Caucasians. The greater point was that Ethio/Somali people are not the "purest" Africans, as characterised earlier in this thread. They're actually the LEAST genetically pure in all of sub-Saharan Africa. And there's not necessarily anything wrong with that.

 

[hairyballscel]

I have no doubt that the study has its imperfections; nonetheless, a constant occurrence in studies of Ethio/Somali DNA points to significant genetic input from Caucasians. The greater point was that Ethio/Somali people are not the "purest" Africans, as characterised earlier in this thread. They're actually the LEAST genetically pure in all of sub-Saharan Africa. And there's not necessarily anything wrong with that.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with having non African admixture, I myself am Eritrean and I don't disagree with the fact that we have non African DNA, but those studies are still bullshit.

Most of these studies don't take African substructure/diversity into account, you spoke about how Ethios and Somalis have Ancient Eurasian ancestry when many Ancient Middle Eastern populations had high levels of indigenous North African ancestry, including Basal Eurasian, an African component btw, scientists run their simulations and see we have high levels of Natufian or Neolithic Iranian ancestry when those groups themselves had North African ancestry, which is common ancestry we share with them rather than simply having non African ancestry.

And have you read the study you're citing? They are using modern populations as pure proxies for ancient groups, and that study says that this non African admixture occured 2700 - 3300 years ago, but there was a skull dating back way before that in South East Africa which had the typical East African so called caucasian feature such as an Elongated skull. So even if that paper is true, it was not the source of our different look.

All the Upper Paleolithic peoples of Kenya were of Caucasoid or proto-Hamitic stock; they are represented by the Gamble's Cave and Naivasha skeletons, as well as the skeleton from Olduvai in northern Tanganyika. They were tall and dolichocephalic, with long face and narrow nose (the 'Elmenteitan type'); the other is brachycephalic, with a shorter face but also with a narrow nose. These two types are represented by Elmenteita A and F1 (Fig. 5 (2 and 3)) from Bromhead's site. The same types persist into the Neolithic, but now a third variation appears in the ultra-dolichocephalic skulls from Willey's kopje (Fig. 5 (4)); these differ from the Elmenteitan type by having a shorter face, a more prominent nose, and a different kind of mandible.


This proves that our "Caucasian look" comes from the Upper Paleolithic which is significanly earlier than what your paper says.
Western Eurasian ancestry is infact North East African ancestry found WITHIN Western Eurasians. Or put more bluntly..........Middle Eastern populations carry Egyptian ancestry. Horn of Africans also carry Egyptian ancestry. Nearly everyone in the Nile valley and rift valley carry Egyptian ancestry. I am using "Egyptian ancestry" as a euphemism for Eastern Saharan or North East African ancestry more dominant today in North Africa.

 

[ThatBoneStructure]

I didn't say there was anything wrong with having non African admixture, I myself am Eritrean and I don't disagree with the fact that we have non African DNA, but those studies are still bullshit.

They're not bullshit at all. Imperfect? Sure. But "bullshit" is just incorrect.

And have you read the study you're citing? They are using modern populations as pure proxies for ancient groups, and that study says that this non African admixture occured 2700 - 3300 years ago, but there was a skull dating back way before that in South East Africa which had the typical East African so called caucasian feature such as an Elongated skull. So even if that paper is true, it was not the source of our different look.

I never attributed your phenotypes solely to your Caucasian ancestry. I merely pointed out that said ancestry exists, and in significant percentages at that. As an Eritrean, you are more than likely around 50% non-African yourself.

 

[hairyballscel]

They're not bullshit at all. Imperfect? Sure. But "bullshit" is just incorrect.

I never attributed your phenotypes solely to your Caucasian ancestry. I merely pointed out that said ancestry exists, and in significant percentages at that. As an Eritrean, you are more than likely around 50% non-African yourself.

No, in all likelihood i am probably around 20 to 30% Non African all that study showed is that I might carry 50% Druze ancestry but for whatever reason you left out the part where they compared Horner DNA to Sardinians in which the results were 40% why not use that data, the Druze are significantly more African than Sardinians so they are terrible references to use. Either way, the closest reference source for Non African ancestry in the Horn of Africa is Natufians and Mesolthic Iranians, these populations carry up to 50% Basal Eurasian, a lineage which came into existence 80,000 years ago, which is before the Out of Africa movement meaning they were 50% African,


We obtain the highest estimates in the earliest populations from both Iran (66±13% in the likely Mesolithic sample, 48±6% in Neolithic samples), and the Levant (44±8% in Epipaleolithic Natufians) (Fig. 2), showing that Basal Eurasian ancestry was widespread across the ancient Near East.

Jfl we do not carry 50% non African ancestry, the quote above proves these Middle Eastern populations half of my DNA is supposed to come from is heavily African which means...... We have common ancestry this ancestry being African.

So no I am not 50% Non African. Don't just spit out any paper you read, I am familliar with the blog you posted

 

[ThatBoneStructure]

No, in all likelihood i am probably around 20 to 30% Non African

Which still makes you mixed race and still directly contradicts the earlier claim that Ethio/Somali people are the "purest Africans" (they're actually the least pure). At 20-30% non-African (you could be more), you're about on par with African Americans for Caucasian ancestry.

 

[hairyballscel]

Which still makes you mixed race and still directly contradicts the earlier claim that Ethio/Somali people are the "purest Africans" (they're actually the least pure). At 20-30% non-African (you could be more), you're about on par with African Americans for Caucasian ancestry.

I wont argue that we are the purest Africans, theres nothing to back that up but that 50% figure is completely wrong, research pre historic North and East African ancestry if you truly want a deep understanding of this.

And I never argued against Horn of Africans being mixed race, just that 50% figure is false. And btw other countries in Sub Saharan Africa such as Sudan and Madagascar have similar if not more non African ancestry than Horners so yh

 

[ThatBoneStructure]

I wont argue that we are the purest Africans, theres nothing to back that up but that 50% figure is completely wrong...

It's dependant on which East African population is talked about. Some East African groups are more mixed race than others. A Somali might be 70% African while an Ethiopian might be 60% African. A small portion of Ethiopians/Eritreans actually fall below the 50% mark. You probably don't mean to do this, but you're actually underselling the genetic variety of your own people.

And I never argued against Horn of Africans being mixed race, just that 50% figure is false.

I'm honestly waiting for more studies to be done. The genetic relationship between West Asia/Middle East and East Africa is so interesting to me.

And btw other countries in Sub Saharan Africa such as Sudan and Madagascar have similar if not more non African ancestry than Horners so yh

Okay, I'll play the semantics game. You are amongst the most racially impure people in all of sub Saharan Africa.

 

[hairyballscel]

It's dependant on which East African population is talked about. Some East African groups are more mixed race than others. A Somali might be 70% African while an Ethiopian might be 60% African. A small portion of Ethiopians/Eritreans actually fall below the 50% mark. You probably don't mean to do this, but you're actually underselling the genetic variety of your own people.

I'm honestly waiting for more studies to be done. The genetic relationship between West Asia/Middle East and East Africa is so interesting to me.

Okay, I'll play the semantics game. You are amongst the most racially impure people in all of sub Saharan Africa.

If you genuienly want to discuss this we can take it to pms?

And yh you're right this is extremely interesting, im 17 so im thinking about a getting a degree in population genetics

 

[ThatBoneStructure]

If you genuienly want to discuss this we can take it to pms?

Sure.

And yh you're right this is extremely interesting, im 17 so im thinking about a getting a degree in population genetics

You should go for it.

 

[hairyballscel]

Sure.

You should go for it.

Kl I'll pm you tomorrow