Why does everyone think I code when I tell them I work in IT?

[Jason Voorhees]

when I say "I'm an ITcel", most people instantly picture:

>A guy in a dark room with dual monitors

>Bash terminal open

>Writing Python/JavaScript code

>Possibly debugging until 3 AM

>Living off Red Bull or instant coffee

>No life autistic loser who is stressed all the time

These niggas dont even understand that there are plenty of jobs in IT that require 0 coding knowledge. I am in DevOps barely even do coding even though I have experience. Same for cybersec etc. ITcel to normies =Full stack developer working 24/7 for peanuts lmao. Who will tell these people that even in actual coding roles 90% of your job as a software dev isn't even writing code. ChatGPT already does that.

 

[The Homelander]

because of the red dot on your forehead

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@User28823

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@gooner23

 

[trashbinxoxo]

I don't know vat you are talking about saar

 

[Ogionth]

when I say "I'm an ITcel", most people instantly picture:

>A guy in a dark room with dual monitors

>Bash terminal open

>Writing Python/JavaScript code

>Possibly debugging until 3 AM

>Living off Red Bull or instant coffee

>No life autistic loser who is stressed all the time

These niggas dont even understand that there are plenty of jobs in IT that require 0 coding knowledge. I am in DevOps barely even do coding even though I have experience. Same for cybersec etc. ITcel to normies =Full stack developer working 24/7 for peanuts lmao. Who will tell these people that even in actual coding roles 90% of your job as a software dev isn't even writing code. ChatGPT already does that.

TLDR : i luv ijrael womin saar

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@imontheloose @SecularIslamist

 

[SecularIslamist]

Vibe coding will be the end of these retards anyway.

 

[imontheloose]

>A guy in a dark room with dual monitors

>Bash terminal open

>Writing Python/JavaScript code

>Possibly debugging until 3 AM

>Living off Red Bull or instant coffee

>No life autistic loser who is stressed all the time

@imontheloose @SecularIslamist

Precisely how every Indian CS student is in Oxford I've saw.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Precisely how every Indian CS student is in Oxford I've saw.

I am not like that. I am non NT and have fucked up sleep yes but I have plenty of free time and I am low cortisol

 

[hunnidrounds]

.

 

[gooner23]

when I say "I'm an ITcel", most people instantly picture:

>A guy in a dark room with dual monitors

>Bash terminal open

>Writing Python/JavaScript code

>Possibly debugging until 3 AM

>Living off Red Bull or instant coffee

>No life autistic loser who is stressed all the time

These niggas dont even understand that there are plenty of jobs in IT that require 0 coding knowledge. I am in DevOps barely even do coding even though I have experience. Same for cybersec etc. ITcel to normies =Full stack developer working 24/7 for peanuts lmao. Who will tell these people that even in actual coding roles 90% of your job as a software dev isn't even writing code. ChatGPT already does that.

devops mad chill tho the average dude in devops is usually pretty old and went from system administration to it, as long as you don't have oncall or stuck doing pure ops

 

[Jason Voorhees]

What do you do 90 percent of the time? Is it really stressful? Is the pay good? I might be getting a helpdesk analyst position and I a using that to become a software dev and maybe then a cloud engineer.

Just google what devops is and no it is not that stressful and yes it pays quite well.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

devops mad chill tho the average dude in devops is usually pretty old and went from system administration to it, as long as you don't have oncall or stuck doing pure ops

Correct most people in devops are pretty old but there's been a shift of allowing freshers too.Cloud adoption, CI/CD, Docker, Kubernetes, Terraform, etc. have made DevOps more tool based and automation-driven.

 

[gooner23]

Correct most people in devops are pretty old but there's been a shift of allowing freshers too.Cloud adoption, CI/CD, Docker, Kubernetes, Terraform, etc. have made DevOps more tool based and automation-driven.

ye but they're kinda forced to have little oversight, devops is high oversight in general so i feel like they're usually forced to be doing some bs don't wanna give a new grad with little experience control over deployment/infrastructure cause that shit costs a lot, not that hard to do just high importance

 

[Jason Voorhees]

ye but they're kinda forced to have little oversight, devops is high oversight in general so i feel like they're usually forced to be doing some bs don't wanna give a new grad with little experience control over deployment/infrastructure cause that shit costs a lot, not that hard to do just high importance

Indeed. DevOps isn't necessarily hard, but it's high risk. One wrong command and you're. Deploying broken code to prod, Deleting a cloud instance with live customer data, Breaking an SSL cert renewal and bringing down the whole site. Why companies generally do is give these people No production deploy rights and have Shadowing seniors watch abd Gatekeeping them with PR reviews and approvals. It's not a bad model - gives freshers exposure without letting them burn the house down. But yeah, until they prove they're competent, they're stuck doing "safe" tasks while the real DevOps decisions still go through the oldcels

 

[Pento]

How hard is it working in IT that’s prolly my future but I’ll have to start at entry lvl I enjoy security but hate coding & networking

 

[Jamaldickjavontus]

Your Indian and work in IT too?

 

[gooner23]

Indeed. DevOps isn't necessarily hard, but it's high risk. One wrong command and you're. Deploying broken code to prod, Deleting a cloud instance with live customer data, Breaking an SSL cert renewal and bringing down the whole site. Why companies generally do is give these people No production deploy rights and have Shadowing seniors watch abd Gatekeeping them with PR reviews and approvals. It's not a bad model - gives freshers exposure without letting them burn the house down. But yeah, until they prove they're competent, they're stuck doing "safe" tasks while the real DevOps decisions still go through the oldcels

tbh if your trying to wlb max being that person to just do nothing all day cause of responsbility is kinda ideal, i sacrificed a shit ton of money to be in my position where i could literally do nothing for 2 weeks with the rest of my team cause your just maintaining stuff and when nothing happens you don't do anything and our infrastructure is super modern, most decaying infrastructure is hard to maintain cause of lack of modern automation tools

 

[Jason Voorhees]

How hard is it working in IT that’s prolly my future but I’ll have to start at entry lvl I enjoy security but hate coding & networking

IT isn't super hard - just gotta be willing to learn and deal with random tech issues without losing your mind. Since you're into security, that's a good start. You don't need to be some coding god or networking wizard either there are roles like SOC analyst or compliance stuff that don't need much of that. You'll prob start with some entry-level helpdesk thing, but if you keep grinding and pick up some certs or side projects, you can move up pretty quick.

How hard is it working in IT that’s prolly my future but I’ll have to start at entry lvl I enjoy security but hate coding & networking

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Your Indian and work in IT too?

Yes but most people at my office are asian or white.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

tbh if your trying to wlb max being that person to just do nothing all day cause of responsbility is kinda ideal, i sacrificed a shit ton of money to be in my position where i could literally do nothing for 2 weeks with the rest of my team cause your just maintaining stuff and when nothing happens you don't do anything and our infrastructure is super modern, most decaying infrastructure is hard to maintain cause of lack of modern automation tools

Honestly I respect sacrificing higher pay for WLB, especially if your infra's modern and stable. Most people don't realize how much hell legacy systems can be - constant patching, weird bugs, no automation. If you're in a setup where you can ghost for 2 weeks and no one even notices you've made it lmao.

 

[DR. NICKGA]

. Who will tell these people that even in actual coding roles 90% of your job as a software dev isn't even writing code. ChatGPT already does that.

speaking on you, professionals like me don't use chatgpt

 

[gooner23]

Honestly I respect sacrificing higher pay for WLB, especially if your infra's modern and stable. Most people don't realize how much hell legacy systems can be - constant patching, weird bugs, no automation. If you're in a setup where you can ghost for 2 weeks and no one even notices you've made it lmao.

ye i had this one internship and that shit was brutal, coworker makes a mistake and it was just 4 months of just passive aggressiveness that shit gotta be tormenting idk how that mfer still in the job and it wasn't even directed at me but i was taking aoe damage.

i always tell people that are a little too ambitious to work, you'll end up with corworkers that work as hard as you and it just ends up being a crunch, asians always be working hard as shit and when i ask them about their work hours its usually like 60 hours but they think that shit is normal or something .

just do as many internships and pick your best team espescially if they're tenured i got lucky because i got to experience that covid boom

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@pprimus43 @deadstock

 

[laworg]

when I say "I'm an ITcel", most people instantly picture:

>A guy in a dark room with dual monitors

>Bash terminal open

>Writing Python/JavaScript code

>Possibly debugging until 3 AM

>Living off Red Bull or instant coffee

>No life autistic loser who is stressed all the time

These niggas dont even understand that there are plenty of jobs in IT that require 0 coding knowledge. I am in DevOps barely even do coding even though I have experience. Same for cybersec etc. ITcel to normies =Full stack developer working 24/7 for peanuts lmao. Who will tell these people that even in actual coding roles 90% of your job as a software dev isn't even writing code. ChatGPT already does that.

Loll

 

[ascension]

I work in finance atm, but if I wanted to transition to IT, which area is the easiest to get into?

 

[laworg]

I work in finance atm, but if I wanted to transition to IT, which area is the easiest to get into?

Start with basic server knowledge and IP/router courses lol takes like a week to get basics done atleast for me and i reccomend dual booting linux rlly helped me understand how computers work since everything on linux is a file

 

[laworg]

I work in finance atm, but if I wanted to transition to IT, which area is the easiest to get into?

I misread ur question lol mb the easiest is just IT support i needed to do it as a internship and ppl jus come to me with laptops that cant properly boot the whole day and it takes legit 30 seconds to fix

 

[ascension]

Start with basic server knowledge and IP/router courses lol takes like a week to get basics done atleast for me and i reccomend dual booting linux rlly helped me understand how computers work since everything on linux is a file

Thanks g, noted. I feel like IT will be less stressful than finance

 

[laworg]

Thanks g, noted. I feel like IT will be less stressful than finance

Forsure just basic IT and general jobs are not stressfull at all especially at office jobs or schools its free money and u get paid above the avg at that company with minimal work but if u start like choosing a niche like cybersecurity or full on programming ur gonna get gray hairs

 

[pprimus43]

I'm going into Nursing @Jason Voorhees

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Thanks g, noted. I feel like IT will be less stressful than finance

IT is not stressful like Finance, especially in roles like DevOps, backend, or SRE (Site Reliability Engineering) which follow a "maintain and monitor" flow once systems are set up you deal with incidents, improve pipelines, automate stuff and chill when things are stable.

Finance, on the other hand especially front-office roles like investment banking, trading, or even consulting adjacent finance gigs is high stakes, high hours, and zero chill. It's a cutthroat grind: 80+ hour weeks, constant performance pressure, client demands, market volatility, and burnout rates through the roof. Pay is quite good tho and finance is definitely better rep with normies than IT

Forsure just basic IT and general jobs are not stressfull at all especially at office jobs or schools its free money and u get paid above the avg at that company with minimal work but if u start like choosing a niche like cybersecurity or full on programming ur gonna get gray hairs

 

[pprimus43]

IT is not stressful like Finance, especially in roles like DevOps, backend, or SRE (Site Reliability Engineering) which follow a "maintain and monitor" flow once systems are set up you deal with incidents, improve pipelines, automate stuff and chill when things are stable.

Finance, on the other hand especially front-office roles like investment banking, trading, or even consulting adjacent finance gigs is high stakes, high hours, and zero chill. It's a cutthroat grind: 80+ hour weeks, constant performance pressure, client demands, market volatility, and burnout rates through the roof. Pay is quite good tho and finance is definitely better rep with normies than IT

I do have a tech degree though, whats the eaiset IT career I coudl pivot to if Nursing doesn't work out for whatever reason (maybe foids all hate me). I have 2 IT internships with the government and thats it

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I work in finance atm, but if I wanted to transition to IT, which area is the easiest to get into?

Business/Data Analyst. My friend did this. You possibly already understand financial statements, KPIs, and business logic. Just pick up Excel (advanced), SQL, maybe Tableau/PowerBI, and basic Python (Pandas, NumPy) and start applying. Plenty of fintech companies are specifically looking for people like you who understand both tech and finance.

 

[laworg]

IT is not stressful like Finance, especially in roles like DevOps, backend, or SRE (Site Reliability Engineering) which follow a "maintain and monitor" flow once systems are set up you deal with incidents, improve pipelines, automate stuff and chill when things are stable.

Finance, on the other hand especially front-office roles like investment banking, trading, or even consulting adjacent finance gigs is high stakes, high hours, and zero chill. It's a cutthroat grind: 80+ hour weeks, constant performance pressure, client demands, market volatility, and burnout rates through the roof. Pay is quite good tho and finance is definitely better rep with normies than IT

depends lol in smaller countries with decent wealth will pay alot for cyber work ngl

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I do have a tech degree though, whats the eaiset IT career I coudl pivot to if Nursing doesn't work out for whatever reason (maybe foids all hate me). I have 2 IT internships with the government and thats it

Tbh because of the internships you are already miles ahead of your average career switcher. I would suggest entry level IT support like @laworg said. You can get these jobs right now if you know the basics.

 

[laworg]

depends lol in smaller countries with decent wealth will pay alot for cyber work ngl

Im 14 but im in my last yr of MBO already and i got paid 3k monthly at the internship, i did cybersec and monitoring but if no work was needed i jus needed to sit in a room with the system admin got paid to eat cookies and drink coffee

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Im 14 but im in my last yr of MBO already and i got paid 3k monthly at the internship, i did cybersec and monitoring but if no work was needed i jus needed to sit in a room with the system admin got paid to eat cookies and drink coffee

My job isn't much different. Half the time I am just staring at a screen with a mug of coffee in my hand and scrolling .org or playing games on my phone.

 

[laworg]

My job isn't much different. Half the time I am just staring at a screen with a mug of coffee in my hand and scrolling .org or playing games on my phone.

I js cant wait till im done with this shitty study i hate highschool so much i have noone to talk to

 

[lastofus123]

That's what IT mostly is right?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

That's what IT mostly is right?

No lol. I do have experience building full stack when I was in my 2nd year of uni but that is not what I do.

My job isn't much different. Half the time I am just staring at a screen with a mug of coffee in my hand and scrolling .org or playing games on my phone.

 

[AuraMaxxing]

I am in CS (still uni) and fuck man I’m tryna do something other than being full stack too, the thought of being in front of a laptop all day sickens me and strips me of any motivation to do projects during my summer break right now. I just wish normal jobs were enough to land you a decent living but sadly we are truly fucked.

Was just watching Dexter too and seeing how people are just working normal jobs with good hours and work environment and are still able to live comfortably makes me nostalgic for a time I wasn’t even alive in

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I am in CS (still uni) and fuck man I’m tryna do something other than being full stack too, the thought of being in front of a laptop all day sickens me and strips me of any motivation to do projects during my summer break right now. I just wish normal jobs were enough to land you a decent living but sadly we are truly fucked.

Was just watching Dexter too and seeing how people are just working normal jobs with good hours and work environment and are still able to live comfortably makes me nostalgic for a time I wasn’t even alive in

Full stack is high stress and highly competitive but pays quite well. Comfortable 6 figure salary even as a junior dev. Also you have a ton of freedom and are basically given a free hand on most projects.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@FaceandBBC

 

[Lightskin Ethnic]

Bhai how many months to learn Devops if i give 3 hrs a day and what prerequisites does it need?

I've heard it's not that hectic as sde and pays just

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Bhai how many months to learn Devops if i give 3 hrs a day and what prerequisites does it need?

I've heard it's not that hectic as sde and pays just

Around 5-6 months I guess. Learn Linux, Git, Shell, basics of networking, Kubernets, Jenkins, it's not required but Terraform is also useful, AWS Solutions architect and other certs also help. And yes it is chill and pays well but devops at junior level is kinda rare especially in India. Read the convo I had with gooner23 in the replies above but once you gain some experience it pays well. Most Devops start off as SDEs and then transition into devops but I've seen people doing devops right after uni too these days because of so much automation

 

[Lightskin Ethnic]

Around 5-6 months I guess. Learn Linux, Git, Shell, basics of networking, Kubernets, Jenkins, it's not required but Terraform is also useful, AWS Solutions architect and other certs also help. And yes it is chill and pays well but devops at junior level is kinda rare especially in India. Read the convo I had with gooner23 in the replies above but once you gain some experience it pays well. Most Devops start off as SDEs and then transition into devops but I've seen people doing devops right after uni too these days because of so much automation

5-6 months total counting devops and the prerequisites u mentioned?

 

[Jamaldickjavontus]

Yes but most people at my office are asian or white.

The jokes write themselves

 

[Mitakaa1341]

Full stack is high stress and highly competitive but pays quite well. Comfortable 6 figure salary even as a junior dev. Also you have a ton of freedom and are basically given a free hand on most projects.

Where do you live? Here in the US, The tech job market is cooked. I don't think you can get a CS job unless you've been to a somewhat top school or are just smart.