Why does this guy looks so uncanny now (another Alfaro botch)? High IQcels gtfih

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Underbite and concave side profile. His chin is in front of his browridge. The chin must align with the forehead/Browridge but it's not a bad result. He looks good from the front
 
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too much donwardly grown chin. looks comical.
 
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I would legit rope if I paid €35k for an outcome like this
Users say he looks good from the front, that's because a lefort is the only true looksmax aside from adding jaw width using implants
"Just move your mandible forward by 10mm when you've already got a normal occlusion bro"
 
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he dun goofed jesus this is bad. Only fix for this is like monobloc + le fort 3 to push his midface forward which he will never get.
 
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I would legit rope if I paid €35k for an outcome like this
Users say he looks good from the front, that's because a lefort is the only true looksmax aside from adding jaw width using implants
"Just move your mandible forward by 10mm when you've already got a normal occlusion bro"
This tbh.
 
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this is what happens when you pass the coceancig minimum extendable line
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muh alfaro
 
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how can this mistake can be even fucking happen? is Alfaro blind ?
 
this is what happens when you pass the coceancig minimum extendable line
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muh alfaro
coceancig mogs everything tbh. I'm convinced of this at this point. he literally turns your jaws into a bunch of puzzle pieces with his osteotomies to realign them. don't see anyone else do this.
 
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this is what happens when you pass the coceancig minimum extendable line
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muh alfaro
no doing surgery planning with hard bones is low iq. ideal is doing it with soft tissue and 3d planning

if I remember correctly, it is also not optimal how the ans is in line with upper incisor
 
no doing surgery planning with hard bones is low iq. ideal is doing it with soft tissue and 3d planning
:feelsuhh::feelsuhh::feelsuhh:

that program that coceancig uses shows soft tissue too and that shit doesn’t even matter if you know what you’re doing… it’s most importantly used to see if the amount of advancement is pulling the lips too far forward, otherwise it’s pointless. bones entail the essentials

this is 3d planning?
if I remember correctly, it is also not optimal how the ans is in line with upper incisor
nope. a true orthognathic profile (caucasoid) consists of a lined up ANS and central incisors

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might be feeding this forum too much information tbh , but at the same time whos even gonna get surgery 😛
 
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Coceancig can go to hell. Did you get banned cause you’re Coceancig himself? Cause he sucks ass and his ridiculous movements have caused many patients medical problems and instead of helping them he abandons them.

When people complain about constant pain he pulls out his favourite psychopathic response: “It’s as though I’ve cleaned your whole apartment and you’re complaining about a sock on the floor”.
 
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