Why facepulling is cope, and why you need to take more extreme measures.

[Insufferable]

I've seen many guides on "face-pulling" over the years, here is why it's complete cope:​

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1. NO Stable Force Anchorage​

"What does that mean?" you ask, it means you're not using any anchored, stable platform to apply controlled force directly onto the bones. When you "facepull" by biting a towel or belt and pulling forward, your neck flexes, your head tilts, and most of the tension is lost in soft tissues. You're not putting pressure on the maxilla or sutures

Bottom line: no solid anchor = no skeletal movement

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2. DIY Pulling is Uncontrolled and Misaligned​

Orthopedic change requires precise force direction, amount, and duration applied consistently over long periods (no shit lmao)


Face-pullers usually try to pull forward and upward for a few seconds (often around 5 seconds), but this falls far short of what real bone remodeling needs because:

• Force direction: While the intent is forward and upward, without proper anchorage the force vector is unstable and inconsistent. Your head and neck shift, dispersing tension instead of focusing it on the maxilla and sutures.
• Force amount: The tension applied by hand pulling is minimal and unmeasured—nowhere near the steady 150–500 grams of force needed daily to stimulate bone growth.
• Application time: A few seconds per set, a handful of times per day, is not close to the 12–16 hours of sustained force required for effective changes.

facepulling= waste of time reactionbait that gained popularity.. somehow

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3. No Palatal Expansion = No Forward Movement​

Before the maxilla can even move forward, you need to unlock the mid-palatal suture. This is usually done with a palatal expander, especially during early puberty.


If your palate is still fused (which starts around 14+ in many teens), it becomes nearly impossible to move the maxilla forward without expansion, even with a real face mask. let alone your hands

facepulling = pushing on a bolted shut door

Bottom line.

no hope in saving ur fucked maxilla if your past puberty without surgery



@MaxillaIsEverything @FacepullingGod @ihatenigger @Chad Bomer @ascend217 @bone

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(if this gets enough attention ill make a thread on how to increase projection and expansion of maxilla during puberty)​

 

[Insufferable]

bump

 

[manhattanbound]

I've seen many guides on "face-pulling" over the years, here is why it's complete cope:​

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1. NO Stable Force Anchorage​

"What does that mean?" you ask, it means you're not using any anchored, stable platform to apply controlled force directly onto the bones. When you "facepull" by biting a towel or belt and pulling forward, your neck flexes, your head tilts, and most of the tension is lost in soft tissues. You're not putting pressure on the maxilla or sutures

---

2. DIY Pulling is Uncontrolled and Misaligned​

Orthopedic change requires precise force direction, amount, and duration applied consistently over long periods (no shit lmao)


Face-pullers usually try to pull forward and upward for a few seconds (often around 5 seconds), but this falls far short of what real bone remodeling needs because:

• Force direction: While the intent is forward and upward, without proper anchorage the force vector is unstable and inconsistent. Your head and neck shift, dispersing tension instead of focusing it on the maxilla and sutures.
• Force amount: The tension applied by hand pulling is minimal and unmeasured—nowhere near the steady 150–500 grams of force needed daily to stimulate bone growth.
• Application time: A few seconds per set, a handful of times per day, is not close to the 12–16 hours of sustained force required for effective changes.

​

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3. No Palatal Expansion = No Forward Movement​

Before the maxilla can even move forward, you need to unlock the mid-palatal suture. This is usually done with a palatal expander, especially during early puberty.


If your palate is still fused (which starts around 14+ in many teens), it becomes nearly impossible to move the maxilla forward without expansion, even with a real face mask. let alone your hands







Bottom line.

no hope in saving ur fucked maxilla if your past puberty without surgery



@MaxillaIsEverything @FacepullingGod @ihatenigger @Chad Bomer @ascend217 @bone

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(if this gets enough attention ill make a thread on how to increase projection and expansion of maxilla during puberty)​

Please make a thread on how to expand maxilla and great thread!

 

[Deleted member 134523]

Ngl this is water asf

Anyone who is saying that this works is trying to sell you something and anyone who believes this is just misinformed and wasting their time

 

[Insufferable]

Ngl this is water asf

Anyone who is saying that this works is trying to sell you something and anyone who believes this is just misinformed and wasting their time

agreed

 

[Insufferable]

I've seen many guides on "face-pulling" over the years, here is why it's complete cope:​

---

1. NO Stable Force Anchorage​

"What does that mean?" you ask, it means you're not using any anchored, stable platform to apply controlled force directly onto the bones. When you "facepull" by biting a towel or belt and pulling forward, your neck flexes, your head tilts, and most of the tension is lost in soft tissues. You're not putting pressure on the maxilla or sutures

---

2. DIY Pulling is Uncontrolled and Misaligned​

Orthopedic change requires precise force direction, amount, and duration applied consistently over long periods (no shit lmao)


Face-pullers usually try to pull forward and upward for a few seconds (often around 5 seconds), but this falls far short of what real bone remodeling needs because:

• Force direction: While the intent is forward and upward, without proper anchorage the force vector is unstable and inconsistent. Your head and neck shift, dispersing tension instead of focusing it on the maxilla and sutures.
• Force amount: The tension applied by hand pulling is minimal and unmeasured—nowhere near the steady 150–500 grams of force needed daily to stimulate bone growth.
• Application time: A few seconds per set, a handful of times per day, is not close to the 12–16 hours of sustained force required for effective changes.

​

---

3. No Palatal Expansion = No Forward Movement​

Before the maxilla can even move forward, you need to unlock the mid-palatal suture. This is usually done with a palatal expander, especially during early puberty.


If your palate is still fused (which starts around 14+ in many teens), it becomes nearly impossible to move the maxilla forward without expansion, even with a real face mask. let alone your hands







Bottom line.

no hope in saving ur fucked maxilla if your past puberty without surgery



@MaxillaIsEverything @FacepullingGod @ihatenigger @Chad Bomer @ascend217 @bone

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(if this gets enough attention ill make a thread on how to increase projection and expansion of maxilla during puberty)​

bump

 

[Deleted member 134523]

@truthhurts @loyolaxavvierretard @rrm_ss2 @Franco333 @gookcelriceR

 

[Franco.]

@truthhurts @loyolaxavvierretard @rrm_ss2 @Franco333 @gookcelriceR

what is this chatgpt bullshit?

 

[Deleted member 134523]

what is this chatgpt bullshit?

Have trust in this Grey

 

[rrm_ss2]

@truthhurts @loyolaxavvierretard @rrm_ss2 @Franco333 @gookcelriceR

tagging me with that faggot franco

 

[Deleted member 134523]

tagging me with that faggot franco

he gives reps
idc
also keep bumping ts

 

[Insufferable]

bump

 

[JoeLesbo420]

I've seen many guides on "face-pulling" over the years, here is why it's complete cope:​

---

1. NO Stable Force Anchorage​

"What does that mean?" you ask, it means you're not using any anchored, stable platform to apply controlled force directly onto the bones. When you "facepull" by biting a towel or belt and pulling forward, your neck flexes, your head tilts, and most of the tension is lost in soft tissues. You're not putting pressure on the maxilla or sutures

---

2. DIY Pulling is Uncontrolled and Misaligned​

Orthopedic change requires precise force direction, amount, and duration applied consistently over long periods (no shit lmao)


Face-pullers usually try to pull forward and upward for a few seconds (often around 5 seconds), but this falls far short of what real bone remodeling needs because:

• Force direction: While the intent is forward and upward, without proper anchorage the force vector is unstable and inconsistent. Your head and neck shift, dispersing tension instead of focusing it on the maxilla and sutures.
• Force amount: The tension applied by hand pulling is minimal and unmeasured—nowhere near the steady 150–500 grams of force needed daily to stimulate bone growth.
• Application time: A few seconds per set, a handful of times per day, is not close to the 12–16 hours of sustained force required for effective changes.

​

---

3. No Palatal Expansion = No Forward Movement​

Before the maxilla can even move forward, you need to unlock the mid-palatal suture. This is usually done with a palatal expander, especially during early puberty.


If your palate is still fused (which starts around 14+ in many teens), it becomes nearly impossible to move the maxilla forward without expansion, even with a real face mask. let alone your hands







Bottom line.

no hope in saving ur fucked maxilla if your past puberty without surgery



@MaxillaIsEverything @FacepullingGod @ihatenigger @Chad Bomer @ascend217 @bone

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(if this gets enough attention ill make a thread on how to increase projection and expansion of maxilla during puberty)​

U didnt try tho, no point in this thred if you didnt try facepulling

 

[Insufferable]

U didnt try tho, no point in this thred if you didnt try facepulling

"yo I heard that if you jumped off a building.. you could fly!"

"No you couldn't, humans don't have wings and our bodies aren't created for flying."

"U didn't try tho, no point in saying otherwise if you didnt try flying"

 

[JoeLesbo420]

"yo I heard that if you jumped off a building.. you could fly!"

"No you couldn't, humans don't have wings and our bodies aren't created for flying."

"U didn't try tho, no point in saying otherwise if you didnt try flying"

Not the same thing

 

[JoeLesbo420]

"yo I heard that if you jumped off a building.. you could fly!"

"No you couldn't, humans don't have wings and our bodies aren't created for flying."

"U didn't try tho, no point in saying otherwise if you didnt try flying"

There is no consequence of you trying dumbass

 

[thejcpenny]

cope cope and cope. facepulling works, most people don't apply enough force, dont have good technique and are inconsistent


facepulling is present in nature

 

[thejcpenny]

also f1 facepulling has insane anchorage

 

[Insufferable]

cope cope and cope. facepulling works, most people don't apply enough force, dont have good technique and are inconsistent


facepulling is present in nature

ur soft tissues will absorb most of the force and for you to use wolves as an example I mean, nigga are we serious? they evolved to be like that because of natural selection over millions of years, theyre skull shape is genetic and passed down. Why do you think golden retrievers have similar face shapes when they eat kibble everyday? I dont even know why I wrote this, you're obviously mentally challenged if you think face-pulling is what causes the cone-like head shape of wolves, nonetheless you'll get another hyperfixation soon autismoboy

 

[stufftodo]

just buy a expander off aliexpress atp. even if facepulling does work it'll only for the top 1% of cranialmaleabiltiy

 

[thejcpenny]

ur soft tissues will absorb most of the force and for you to use wolves as an example I mean, nigga are we serious? they evolved to be like that because of natural selection over millions of years, theyre skull shape is genetic and passed down. Why do you think golden retrievers have similar face shapes when they eat kibble everyday? I dont even know why I wrote this, you're obviously mentally challenged if you think face-pulling is what causes the cone-like head shape of wolves, nonetheless you'll get another hyperfixation soon autismoboy

soft tissues absorb the forces? are you fucking retarded? have you ever tried facepulling

 

[JoeLesbo420]

ur soft tissues will absorb most of the force and for you to use wolves as an example I mean, nigga are we serious? they evolved to be like that because of natural selection over millions of years, theyre skull shape is genetic and passed down. Why do you think golden retrievers have similar face shapes when they eat kibble everyday? I dont even know why I wrote this, you're obviously mentally challenged if you think face-pulling is what causes the cone-like head shape of wolves, nonetheless you'll get another hyperfixation soon autismoboy

Yes i was thinking the same thing until i found this:
1) Mom and dad not recessed but you can still be recessed ex Cole Palmer)
2) Before the modern diet(soft foods, mouthbreatheing and polution) not one single human/homosapien had a recessed face
3)Human faces didnt have time to evolve into recession (evolution takes hunder thousand of years even milions) and we didnt see recessed skulls 2000 years ago

@thejcpenny

 

[Deleted member 161065]

Yes i was thinking the same thing until i found this:
1) Mom and dad not recessed but you can still be recessed ex Cole Palmer)
2) Before the modern diet(soft foods, mouthbreatheing and polution) not one single human/homosapien had a recessed face
3)Human faces didnt have time to evolve into recession (evolution takes hunder thousand of years even milions) and we didnt see recessed skulls 2000 years ago

@thejcpenny

Yes but that takes generations. Also, your cranium is already 90+% completed at age 5. Your maxilla like 85%. You are too late.

 

[JoeLesbo420]

Yes but that takes generations. Also, your cranium is already 90+% completed at age 5. Your maxilla like 85%. You are too late.

thats just not true

 

[Deleted member 161065]

thats just not true

 

[JoeLesbo420]

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You dumbass i look nothing like me at 5
Retardcel

 

[JoeLesbo420]

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@thejcpenny

 

[Deleted member 161065]

You dumbass i look nothing like me at 5
Retardcel

Fat loss + some growth still occurs. As you can see at 16 you're done. I am sure you look similar to when you where 16, except maybe some fat loss.

 

[thejcpenny]

ur soft tissues will absorb most of the force and for you to use wolves as an example I mean, nigga are we serious? they evolved to be like that because of natural selection over millions of years, theyre skull shape is genetic and passed down. Why do you think golden retrievers have similar face shapes when they eat kibble everyday? I dont even know why I wrote this, you're obviously mentally challenged if you think face-pulling is what causes the cone-like head shape of wolves, nonetheless you'll get another hyperfixation soon autismoboy

they just got their skulls randomly true random genetic mutations. everything is random you are right !

 

[thejcpenny]

there is absolutely no correlation between using your face as a tool and having good facial features, absolutely none. In fact, its all random. Just random genetic mutations over millions of years. No correlation between environment and skull shape, jaw shape. Diet doesn't influence anything. You are completely right! Everything is purely random. face pulling def doesn't work. The 700 Newton of force that is used on maxilla during pull definitely won't affect the bones of the face in anyway, in fact they won't affect it all. Especially if someone sticks to a solid facepulling routine and pulls like a maniac everyday for 3 years, his face won't change a single bit. Not even his facial muscles. All random. You are right !

 

[JoeLesbo420]

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That doesent mean bones cant change ,
Zhang's Law and Wolf's law

 

[Deleted member 161065]

That doesent mean bones cant change ,
Zhang's Law and Wolf's law

??? Wolfs law has absoloutely nothing to do with this
Prove that zhangs law works here. I personally think you will just fuck up your teeth, as they are easier deformed than your entire skull

 

[JoeLesbo420]

??? Wolfs law has absoloutely nothing to do with this
Prove that zhangs law works here. I personally think you will just fuck up your teeth, as they are easier deformed than your entire skull

Dumbass just try it, your life is already over anyways

 

[Deleted member 161065]

Dumbass just try it, your life is already over anyways

Risk of tooth damage?

 

[JoeLesbo420]

Risk of tooth damage?

None ive been doing it for 1 month now 10-12 reps a day almost full force

 

[JoeLesbo420]

None ive been doing it for 1 month now 10-12 reps a day almost full force

Risk of tooth damage?

Why not try it tho, i will quit after 6 more months if i dont see noticible change. Why would this guy put so much effort into this and then just lie, he doesent want money nor fame.

 

[Deleted member 161065]

Why not try it tho, i will quit after 6 more months if i dont see noticible change. Why would this guy put so much effort into this and then just lie, he doesent want money nor fame.

I will try carefully and report back after 1 month, 3 months and 6 months. I will 100% stick to the routine with my best effort and we will see.

 

[JoeLesbo420]

I will try carefully and report back after 1 month, 3 months and 6 months. I will 100% stick to the routine with my best effort and we will see.

Good , dont forget to bite down really hard.imma keep doing this the whole summer