Why is betabuxxing considered bad?

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I mean all romantic relationships are built on reciprocity in some way. How is a woman using you for your money any different than her using you for your looks, if at the end you still slay her?
You will never be unconditionally loved at the end
 
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I mean all romantic relationships are built on reciprocity in some way. How is a woman using you for your money any different than her using you for your looks, if at the end you still slay her?
You will never be unconditionally loved at the end
you can just never be desired in beta bux partnership

we all want to be desired, betabuxing is like throwing the towel in
 
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you can just never be desired in beta bux partnership
Sexual attraction is not all about looks. Money + status will definitely pump up your SMV. Preselection and good reputation too for an example
MSmaxxed MTN > Average MTN ; and I'm not talking about gold diggers but your average girl. Everything matters
we all want to be desired
Desired for what? How does being desired for your money differ from being desired for your looks/personality. We're all consciousness trapped in a physical body and environment, you will never be loved for your core self
betabuxing is like throwing the towel in
Life's about working with the cards you've been dealt, if using money gets you what you want, I see no problem
 
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Sexual attraction is not all about looks. Money + status will definitely pump up your SMV. Preselection and good reputation too for an example
MSmaxxed MTN > Average MTN ; and I'm not talking about gold diggers but your average girl. Everything matters

Desired for what? How does being desired for your money differ from being desired for your looks/personality. We're all consciousness trapped in a physical body and environment, you will never be loved for your core self

Life's about working with the cards you've been dealt, if using money gets you what you want, I see no problem
Even if it is as you say, you’re just making it even worse by adding even another shell around your core self, appearance is thick enough, don’t add more to it
 
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Sexual attraction is not all about looks. Money + status will definitely pump up your SMV. Preselection and good reputation too for an example
MSmaxxed MTN > Average MTN ; and I'm not talking about gold diggers but your average girl. Everything matters

Desired for what? How does being desired for your money differ from being desired for your looks/personality. We're all consciousness trapped in a physical body and environment, you will never be loved for your core self

Life's about working with the cards you've been dealt, if using money gets you what you want, I see no problem
deep down you know it's not genuine when ur relationship is built on a conditional offer

which is you provide I stay

you lose ur lose resources, I leave you

this a unfortunate social contract
 
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you can just never be desired in beta bux partnership

we all want to be desired, betabuxing is like throwing the towel in
Would you appreciate being desired after hard maxing though? Wouldn’t it disturb you? “You” would be desired. Then you can make the argument of viewing yourself detached from your appearance, so as long as the appearance you have is pleasing to the female, you’re being desired, whether it is biology or surgery. But it still isn’t the same I think
 
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I mean all romantic relationships are built on reciprocity in some way. How is a woman using you for your money any different than her using you for your looks, if at the end you still slay her?
You will never be unconditionally loved at the end
The difference is physical attraction allows a girl to have a genuine desire for you

Money cant do that as she just likes your money not you

You could try saying that abt looks except your looks are physically intertwined with you, your money isnt
 
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Would you appreciate being desired after hard maxing though? Wouldn’t it disturb you? “You” would be desired. Then you can make the argument of viewing yourself detached from your appearance, so as long as the appearance you have is pleasing to the female, you’re being desired, whether it is biology or surgery. But it still isn’t the same I think
well since the golden rule of Looksmaxing is to look natural and not a uncanny clown

yes
 
Facts.
Attractive, unattractive, young, old. All women want a young hot stud. A young hot stud who is exciting and new and has a big dick.
Unconditional love is just cope. Genuine desire is an even bigger cope.
No matter how hot you are, you'll get less hot with age. Add to that familiarity and boredom and it's kinda over even for chads.

Betabuxxing is a legit, proven, mating strategy.
Men with a lot of money and status leverage it in order to fuck and breed with women of higher genetic quality(beauty) than they could have otherwise.
Some average joe making average wage paying for some average becky making average wage is not betabuxxing, he has no serious bucks to leverage anyway, it's more like pennymaxxing lmao.

This is the reality of the situation.
Ultimately, it's all about envy deep down.
Lesser males, who lack both looks and money, making fun of comparatively superior males, who might lack the looks but have a lot of money and/or status. Because one is stuck with subhumans and mids no matter what he does, while the other, if he wants, can fuck and breed hotties.

Most people with a lot of money also have protections in place and also get prenups, unless they got with the woman before they made it big and are already married. Most of these people aren't stupid. Nothing more hilarious than some bald, wageslaving, gymrat with a shitty beard that porks 3s bragging how much genuine desire they have for him, then proceed of making fun of very wealthy individuals who fuck and breed models. Bro, you aren't even living in the same universe as those guys, just let it go.

Every man is free to make his own choices.
To me someone hoarding excessive amounts of money, without using any of it to get what he wants, sounds retarded. You are not going to take all of that to the afterlife anyway.
Leave most for your kids, but use some of it to get the women you want and also give said kids better genes.
Money is just a tool to get you what you want anyway.
 
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well since the golden rule of Looksmaxing is to look natural and not a uncanny clown

yes
But it would look natural, without it being “natural”. Wouldn’t you think: “If I hadn’t hardmaxed she wouldn’t have loved me, which you can oppose by saying that someone could say the same; “ If I didn’t look good, she wouldn’t have loved me”, and just then by hardmaxing you’re sort of “taking matters into your hand” and not leaving it to “god”. But it’s still not the same I think. Like would you love a foid who hardmaxed? How would you react to seeing her before pictures, knowing it’s the same person
 
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But it would look natural, without it being “natural”. Wouldn’t you think: “If I hadn’t hardmaxed she wouldn’t have loved me, which you can oppose by saying that someone could say the same; “ If I didn’t look good, she wouldn’t have loved me”, and just then by hardmaxing you’re sort of “taking matters into your hand” and not leaving it to “god”. But it’s still not the same I think. Like would you love a foid who hardmaxed? How would you react to seeing her before pictures, knowing it’s the same person
word of advice format ts I don't want to see read a block of text

it really depends and it doesn't rly matter if that is the case

even you make the jump from sub 3 to mtn you know she wouldn't lol
 
Facts.
Attractive, unattractive, young, old. All women want a young hot stud. A young hot stud who is exciting and new and has a big dick.
Unconditional love is just cope. Genuine desire is an even bigger cope.
No matter how hot you are, you'll get less hot with age. Add to that familiarity and boredom and it's kinda over even for chads.

Betabuxxing is a legit, proven, mating strategy.
Men with a lot of money and status leverage it in order to fuck and breed with women of higher genetic quality(beauty) than they could have otherwise.
Some average joe making average wage paying for some average becky making average wage is not betabuxxing, he has no serious bucks to leverage anyway, it's more like pennymaxxing lmao.

This is the reality of the situation.
Ultimately, it's all about envy deep down.
Lesser males, who lack both looks and money, making fun of comparatively superior males, who might lack the looks but have a lot of money and/or status. Because one is stuck with subhumans and mids no matter what he does, while the other, if he wants, can fuck and breed hotties.

Most people with a lot of money also have protections in place and also get prenups, unless they got with the woman before they made it big and are already married. Most of these people aren't stupid. Nothing more hilarious than some bald, wageslaving, gymrat with a shitty beard that porks 3s bragging how much genuine desire they have for him, then proceed of making fun of very wealthy individuals who fuck and breed models. Bro, you aren't even living in the same universe as those guys, just let it go.

Every man is free to make his own choices.
To me someone hoarding excessive amounts of money, without using any of it to get what he wants, sounds retarded. You are not going to take all of that to the afterlife anyway.
Leave most for your kids, but use some of it to get the women you want and also give said kids better genes.
Money is just a tool to get you what you want anyway.
It’s not just about that, that is “forced” or “smart” or convenient “worship” the foids would make. If they want to they can deny. “Real” attraction they have no choice, you don’t make a decision of convinencr, rather you go against rational thought, your intelligence doesn’t matter, nor does reasoning, it’s an irresistible impulse
 
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It’s not just about that, that is “forced” or “smart” or convenient “worship” the foids would make. If they want to they can deny. “Real” attraction they have no choice, you don’t make a decision of convinencr, rather you go against rational thought, your intelligence doesn’t matter, nor does reasoning, it’s an irresistible impulse

The thing you are describing isn't sustainable at all. Do you think some woman can lose all rational thought and be genuinely greatly attracted to a man for fucking decades? Lmao, that's a fantasy, bro. It doesn't exist. That level of sustained attraction or desire doesn't exist. Women will decide to stay with a man for a bunch of reasons and also various constraints of choice, but the real attraction you speak of is long gone.
 
The thing you are describing isn't sustainable at all. Do you think some woman can lose all rational thought and be genuinely greatly attracted to a man for fucking decades? Lmao, that's a fantasy, bro. It doesn't exist. That level of sustained attraction or desire doesn't exist. Women will decide to stay with a man for a bunch of reasons and also various constraints of choice, but the real attraction you speak of is long gone.
Longevity is irrelevant to my point. You’re saying long gone as if it’s something cultural and can be altered, which couldn’t be further from the truth. Just because there are other factors at play, such as longetivity and other ways to make things work, that doesn’t mean you can deny obvious biological truth, let alone make a statement like you made “long gone”, which is nonsensical
 
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deep down you know it's not genuine when ur relationship is built on a conditional offer

which is you provide I stay

you lose ur lose resources, I leave you

this a unfortunate social contract
Looks are also conditional. If you were to to turn into a subhuman overnight, best bet your gf will leave you
Like I told already, you're always used somehow in any relationship
 
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Fear and power affect girls more than looks and money
 
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Because many see it as a loser trait and it’s pretty much pointless in simple terms
 
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It's a somewhat grey area. In reality, it depends how genuinely powerful and wealthy the guy is. If the guy is working some boring 9/5, not rich but paying everything, and he's ugly then it's not going to end well.
 
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Longevity is irrelevant to my point. You’re saying long gone as if it’s something cultural and can be altered, which couldn’t be further from the truth. Just because there are other factors at play, such as longetivity and other ways to make things work, that doesn’t mean you can deny obvious biological truth, let alone make a statement like you made “long gone”, which is nonsensical

There is nothing nonsensical about it. Chad at 25 is greatly desired by 25 year old Stacy and other 25 year old women. Chad at 70 is not greatly desired by his 70 year old Stacy wife and other 70 year old women, let alone 25 year old women. Deterioration of appearance, increased familiarity, increased boredom, all these led to his wife not desiring him or being attracted.

"Love", "attraction", "desire" are all mumbo jumbo nothing burgers. Hormones and inherent biochemical processes that govern the neural network of your brain make you want and search for these things. But make no mistake, it's all fairy dust, tricking you in order to facilitate sex, reproduction, and passing on your genes. The pairbonding(between man and woman) aspect of this scam is just to facilitate the man staying, raising his offsprings and investing in them, thus maximizing the chances of those offsprings also managing to reproduce and passing on their genes, which are a continuation of his fucking genes.

Essentially, we're all vessels for our genes, playing a game of how to spread those genes. The second underlying game is how to properly allocate the finite investment each man is capable of after he's managed to reproduce. You find a female vessel of higher quality genes, you generally invest more, you create the best offsprings you can probably create, fewer in number, and invest a lot of them, thus maximizing your offsprings chances of passing on their genes. Or you find many female vessels of lower genetic quality, creating more offsprings in number, but offering minimum investment in each of those offsprings, and betting that some of them will statistically make it. Or any combination of both strategies.

It's not deep bro. It's just biology.
 
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There is nothing nonsensical about it. Chad at 25 is greatly desired by 25 year old Stacy and other 25 year old women. Chad at 70 is not greatly desired by his 70 year old Stacy wife and other 70 year old women, let alone 25 year old women. Deterioration of appearance, increased familiarity, increased boredom, all these led to his wife not desiring him or being attracted.

"Love", "attraction", "desire" are all mumbo jumbo nothing burgers. Hormones and inherent biochemical processes that govern the neural network of your brain make you want and search for these things. But make no mistake, it's all fairy dust, tricking you in order to facilitate sex, reproduction, and passing on your genes. The pairbonding(between man and woman) aspect of this scam is just to facilitate the man staying, raising his offsprings and investing in them, thus maximizing the chances of those offsprings also managing to reproduce and passing on their genes, which are a continuation of his fucking genes.

Essentially, we're all vessels for our genes, playing a game of how to spread those genes. The second underlying game is how to properly allocate the finite investment each man is capable of after he's managed to reproduce. You find a female vessel of higher quality genes, you generally invest more, you create the best offsprings you can probably create, fewer in number, and invest a lot of them, thus maximizing your offsprings chances of passing on their genes. Or you find many female vessels of lower genetic quality, creating more offsprings in number, but offering minimum investment in each of those offsprings, and betting that some of them will statistically make it. Or any combination of both strategies.

It's not deep bro. It's just biology.
I am not disagreeing with the majority of what you’ve written here. However the discussion was about being truly desired, which was what the other user posed as a question l, without longevity involved in the question. It was not about what you’ve written, with which I mostly agree.
 
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you can just never be desired in beta bux partnership

we all want to be desired, betabuxing is like throwing the towel in
Being rich will make you wanted girls want a guy thats wanted even if its not looks related . Foids want more to make the other foid jealous more than anything .
 
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There is nothing nonsensical about it. Chad at 25 is greatly desired by 25 year old Stacy and other 25 year old women. Chad at 70 is not greatly desired by his 70 year old Stacy wife and other 70 year old women, let alone 25 year old women. Deterioration of appearance, increased familiarity, increased boredom, all these led to his wife not desiring him or being attracted.

"Love", "attraction", "desire" are all mumbo jumbo nothing burgers. Hormones and inherent biochemical processes that govern the neural network of your brain make you want and search for these things. But make no mistake, it's all fairy dust, tricking you in order to facilitate sex, reproduction, and passing on your genes. The pairbonding(between man and woman) aspect of this scam is just to facilitate the man staying, raising his offsprings and investing in them, thus maximizing the chances of those offsprings also managing to reproduce and passing on their genes, which are a continuation of his fucking genes.

Essentially, we're all vessels for our genes, playing a game of how to spread those genes. The second underlying game is how to properly allocate the finite investment each man is capable of after he's managed to reproduce. You find a female vessel of higher quality genes, you generally invest more, you create the best offsprings you can probably create, fewer in number, and invest a lot of them, thus maximizing your offsprings chances of passing on their genes. Or you find many female vessels of lower genetic quality, creating more offsprings in number, but offering minimum investment in each of those offsprings, and betting that some of them will statistically make it. Or any combination of both strategies.

It's not deep bro. It's just biology.
And there is indeed more to it. You say vessels of genes. I am no biologist, but this is a random question that I have unrelated to the discussion. In animals you see for example they perform like mating rituals or build some random stuff. Now whether that is just a mechanism to put some “choosing” in the game, or it actually shows that the genes in the particular vessel are worthy of being passed on I don’t know. But say you are sub 5 but rich. In the context of passing genes, you could say he’s rich so high iq, worthy of being passed. You could also say sub-5, terrible physical health, not worry of being passed. So how does choosing it as a vessel seem logical. It’s not black and white but still even from that point of view, wouldn’t the female cuck him to gain the resources, and the genes from someone else ( disregarding iq in the last sentence)
 
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And there is indeed more to it. You say vessels of genes. I am no biologist, but this is a random question that I have unrelated to the discussion. In animals you see for example they perform like mating rituals or build some random stuff. Now whether that is just a mechanism to put some “choosing” in the game, or it actually shows that the genes in the particular vessel are worthy of being passed on I don’t know. But say you are sub 5 but rich. In the context of passing genes, you could say he’s rich so high iq, worthy of being passed. You could also say sub-5, terrible physical health, not worry of being passed. So how does choosing it as a vessel seem logical. It’s not black and white but still even from that point of view, wouldn’t the female cuck him to gain the resources, and the genes from someone else ( disregarding iq in the last sentence)

Yeah cucking is part of the game of course. Some people are finessers and deceivers, they will try anything to give their offsprings the best genes and also high investment. But you forgot that it takes two to tango. The man knows this, instinctively, that's why mate guarding is an actual term. And it's not something strictly for sub5s in poor health. You could be a stud and in great health, but there is always a bigger stud in even greater health to be found.
 
Being rich will make you wanted girls want a guy thats wanted even if its not looks related . Foids want more to make the other foid jealous more than anything .
Yep, so called preselection. I've witnessed that thing with my very own eyes back in school days
There was this MTN friend I had with 0 halos that was still somehow more desired than other MTNs. He even managed to cheat on his gf with 3 different girls in a span of 2 months and also was DMed by bunch on girls in a meantime.

Female hive mindedness is a fascinating phenomenon
 
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Yeah cucking is part of the game of course. Some people are finessers and deceivers, they will try anything to give their offsprings the best genes and also high investment. But you forgot that it takes two to tango. The man knows this, instinctively, that's why mate guarding is an actual term. And it's not something strictly for sub5s in poor health. You could be a stud and in great health, but there is always a bigger stud in even greater health to be found.
Yes but don’t you think there’s a threshold where the “studness” is enough such as the “bigger” stud isn’t as much bigger, and you’re big enough. It would of course decrease the chances of that happening. Ofc I agree no matter how GL you are it can always happend, like you said it takes two. But you would agree a sub 5 it’s easier to cheat on, you’ve got less to lose. You might say in the other case you have resources to lose. But that’s keeping more on a leash.
 
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Yes but don’t you think there’s a threshold where the “studness” is enough such as the “bigger” stud isn’t as much bigger, and you’re big enough. It would of course decrease the chances of that happening. Ofc I agree no matter how GL you are it can always happend, like you said it takes two. But you would agree a sub 5 it’s easier to cheat on, you’ve got less to lose. You might say in the other case you have resources to lose. But that’s keeping more on a leash.

The minimum threshold of attractiveness in order for someone to be "mostly immune"(it's never guaranteed) to cucking is very high anyway. 99% or maybe even 99.9% of men aren't at that level. And even those who are, as I've said it's unsustainable, you'll get older, less attractive. Plus boredom and familiarity, which are inevitable, will contribute more to damaging the pairbond and increase chances of of the woman cheating on you than your own deteriorating appearance. And that's not even considering other stuff. A woman might cheat strictly out of spite because you had some disagreement or a string of disagreements, or some other stupid reason. Or in some cases she might cheat on you with a less physically attractive man with higher resources and status. You are never safe, even if you're the hottest dude on the planet.

Only through most men coming together and creating a patriarchical society with increased restrictions, where cheating, infidelity and cuckoldry are disincentivized and heavily penalized etc. can combat this. Traditional values and religion kept the excessive cheating and cucking at bay in most places. Plus a society with strict monogamy is also the most technologically advanced, productive and prosperous. Obviously with the advent of AI, robotics and machines that might change, but historically that was pretty much true.

People are already on a leash anyway. The government, the laws, etc. have you on a leash anyway. You're only as free as you're allowed to be.
 
The minimum threshold of attractiveness in order for someone to be "mostly immune"(it's never guaranteed) to cucking is very high anyway. 99% or maybe even 99.9% of men aren't at that level. And even those who are, as I've said it's unsustainable, you'll get older, less attractive. Plus boredom and familiarity, which are inevitable, will contribute more to damaging the pairbond and increase chances of of the woman cheating on you than your own deteriorating appearance. And that's not even considering other stuff. A woman might cheat strictly out of spite because you had some disagreement or a string of disagreements, or some other stupid reason. Or in some cases she might cheat on you with a less physically attractive man with higher resources and status. You are never safe, even if you're the hottest dude on the planet.

Only through most men coming together and creating a patriarchical society with increased restrictions, where cheating, infidelity and cuckoldry are disincentivized and heavily penalized etc. can combat this. Traditional values and religion kept the excessive cheating and cucking at bay in most places. Plus a society with strict monogamy is also the most technologically advanced, productive and prosperous. Obviously with the advent of AI, robotics and machines that might change, but historically that was pretty much true.

People are already on a leash anyway. The government, the laws, etc. have you on a leash anyway. You're only as free as you're allowed to be.
The last one is a decent take, I agree with most of it
 
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