Why is soy milk hated so much?

[TsarTsar444]

Don't get it, soy has phytoestrogens that basically don't have any effects or very very little on humans while commercial milk actually has real estrogen that is bad. Is it because cucks drink soy? It isn't the soy that made those people feminine betas its basically them being betas that led them to drink soy milk because they are vegans. Is there any relevant meta analysis about phytoestrogens having same effect as normal E?

 

[Virgincel]

blame /pol/

 

[Fr12]

Soybeans contain isoflavones called genistein and daidzein, which are one source of phytoestrogens in the human diet.
Soybeans and processed soy foods are among the richest foods in total phytoestrogens (wet basis per 100 g), which are present primarily in the form of the isoflavones daidzein and genistein. Human breast milk-containing or cow milk formula-containing diets provide 0.005-0.01 mg of isoflavone per day, while soy-based infant formulas provide 6–47 mg of isoflavone daily. This intake is several orders of magnitude greater than those provided by other nutrients.

 

[Butthurt Dweller]

its just food. people who are utter subhumans want to blame anything for their problems, the soybean just happened to get the gluten treatment

 

[TsarTsar444]

Soybeans contain isoflavones called genistein and daidzein, which are one source of phytoestrogens in the human diet.
Soybeans and processed soy foods are among the richest foods in total phytoestrogens (wet basis per 100 g), which are present primarily in the form of the isoflavones daidzein and genistein. Human breast milk-containing or cow milk formula-containing diets provide 0.005-0.01 mg of isoflavone per day, while soy-based infant formulas provide 6–47 mg of isoflavone daily. This intake is several orders of magnitude greater than those provided by other nutrients.

What does this mean?

 

[Fr12]

It is unclear if phytoestrogens have any effect on male sexuality, with conflicting results about the potential effects of isoflavones originating from soy. A 2010 meta-analysis of fifteen placebo-controlled studies led by Dr. Mark Messina, executive director of the Soy Nutrition Institute, said that "neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable testosterone concentrations in men." Some studies showed that isoflavone supplementation had no effect on sperm concentration, count, or motility, and had no effects on testicular or ejaculate volume. Sperm count decline and increasing rate of testicular cancers in the West may be linked to a higher presence of isoflavone phytoestrogens in the diet, but such a link has not been definitively proven. Furthermore, there is some evidence that phytoestrogens may affect male fertility, but "further investigation is needed before a firm conclusion can be drawn".

 

[TsarTsar444]

It is unclear if phytoestrogens have any effect on male sexuality, with conflicting results about the potential effects of isoflavones originating from soy. A 2010 meta-analysis of fifteen placebo-controlled studies led by Dr. Mark Messina, executive director of the Soy Nutrition Institute, said that "neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable testosterone concentrations in men." Some studies showed that isoflavone supplementation had no effect on sperm concentration, count, or motility, and had no effects on testicular or ejaculate volume. Sperm count decline and increasing rate of testicular cancers in the West may be linked to a higher presence of isoflavone phytoestrogens in the diet, but such a link has not been definitively proven. Furthermore, there is some evidence that phytoestrogens may affect male fertility, but "further investigation is needed before a firm conclusion can be drawn".

This didn't prove nothing tho, only that it doesn't do anything. Asians have been eating soy beans for hundreds of years and they were a very masculine society until getting cucked by western values

 

[Deleted member 3832]

They should make milk that actually boosts testosterone instead of estrogen.

 

[TsarTsar444]

They should make milk that actually boosts testosterone instead of estrogen.

Or just buy TRT and inject very small doses for life

 

[Deleted member 3832]

Or just buy TRT and inject very small doses for life

Where? And for how much again?

 

[UnderCovrN0rmie]

i make soy jokes because they're funny

 

[Blackout.xl]

This didn't prove nothing tho, only that it doesn't do anything. Asians have been eating soy beans for hundreds of years and they were a very masculine society until getting cucked by western values

- small dicks
- feminine men
- terrible frame
- terrible height

 

[TsarTsar444]

- small dicks
- feminine men
- terrible frame
- terrible height

Thats because of their low protein diet for thousands of years that they evolved to look physically weak but their T levels were incredibly high, just look at the chad Mongol Empire and the Japanese in ww2

 

[Blackout.xl]

Thats because of their low protein diet for thousands of years that they evolved to look physically weak but their T levels were incredibly high, just look at the chad Mongol Empire and the Japanese in ww2

Cope. Japanese were low T asf

 

[BigBiceps]

Don't get it, soy has phytoestrogens that basically don't have any effects or very very little on humans

 

[BigBiceps]

Thats because of their low protein diet for thousands of years that they evolved to look physically weak but their T levels were incredibly high, just look at the chad Mongol Empire and the Japanese in ww2

Soy has a lot of protein.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Cope. Japanese were low T asf

No bro, Japanese always had a very patriarchal society and extreme honor where they would kill themselves if they failed at war, also they were very militaristic and aggressive, one of the only nations to cuck Europeans and not alow them to trade. They were based as fuck

 

[Blackout.xl]

No bro, Japanese always had a very patriarchal society and extreme honor where they would kill themselves if they failed at war, also they were very militaristic and aggressive, one of the only nations to cuck Europeans and not alow them to trade. They were based as fuck

Japanese were bitches who got btfo’d by the Americans

edit: you didn’t respond to the earlier comment of soy having protein. Fish also has tons of protein and is a staple of the East Asian diet

 

[TsarTsar444]

Japanese were bitches who got btfo’d by the Americans

Only because of their lack of technology and military industry, they were very brave and heroic with what they had and would do suicide dives into american planes, something that the 'high T' white american would never imagine to do

 

[Blackout.xl]

Only because of their lack of technology and military industry, they were very brave and heroic with what they had and would do suicide dives into american planes, something that the 'high T' white american would never imagine to do

Cope. They were bitches of short stature. The soy stunted them good

 

[TsarTsar444]

Cope. They were bitches of short stature. The soy stunted them good

Bro africans are also short people om average, they didn't consume soy

 

[Jimsonbobson505]

Don't get it, soy has phytoestrogens that basically don't have any effects or very very little on humans while commercial milk actually has real estrogen that is bad. Is it because cucks drink soy? It isn't the soy that made those people feminine betas its basically them being betas that led them to drink soy milk because they are vegans. Is there any relevant meta analysis about phytoestrogens having same effect as normal E?

Just the word soy sounds like a Asian bitch on her knees

 

[Blackout.xl]

Bro africans are also short people om average, they didn't consume soy

Africans are short due to a lack of nutrition boyo. The ones who get fed are 5’10 minimum. Meanwhile the East Asians have good solid diets for hundreds of years and they haven’t grown

 

[TsarTsar444]

Africans are short due to a lack of nutrition boyo. The ones who get fed are 5’10 minimum. Meanwhile the East Asians have good solid diets for hundreds of years and they haven’t grown

Asians also consumed very low protein diet so thats why they are short and about Africans it's definitely not about food, west african kingdoms were wealthy in the past and the people there were always short. South Sudan has the worst economy in Africa yet the people there are the tallest, food accounts only 5% for height it's mostly genetic

 

[Blackout.xl]

Asians also consumed very low protein diet so thats why they are short and about Africans it's definitely not about food, west african kingdoms were wealthy in the past and the people there were always short. South Sudan has the worst economy in Africa yet the people there are the tallest, food accounts only 5% for height it's mostly genetic

Son are u for real right now?

East Asian diets aren’t low in protein. Soy has protein. Fish has protein. Meat has protein. I could go on. Many staples of the East Asian diet are rich in protein.

west African kingdoms were hundreds of years ago. The Europeans came, colonized the continent and ruined things for Africans since the 1800’s. Africans as a result are stunted right now.

It’s definitely about the food. Nutrition is vital during development for growth. The Dinka tribe average has been deflated to 5’9 due to a lack of nutrition.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Son are u for real right now?

East Asian diets aren’t low in protein. Soy has protein. Fish has protein. Meat has protein. I could go on. Many staples of the East Asian diet are rich in protein.

west African kingdoms were hundreds of years ago. The Europeans came, colonized the continent and ruined things for Africans since the 1800’s. Africans as a result are stunted right now.

It’s definitely about the food. Nutrition is vital during development for growth. The Dinka tribe average has been deflated to 5’9 due to a lack of nutrition.

Yeah but all those foods weren't their common diet, they would most of the time eat rice with some little fish meat and soy once in a while

 

[Blackout.xl]

Yeah but all those foods weren't their common diet, they would most of the time eat rice with some little fish meat and soy once in a while

Fish was plentiful in their diet if they were near the coast (which is where most East Asians have been situated for hundreds of years).

why is the past even a talking point here anyway? Asian diets have been packed with even more protein since the start of the 1900’s yet they still haven’t grown

 

[TsarTsar444]

Fish was plentiful in their diet if they were near the coast (which is where most East Asians have been situated for hundreds of years).

Either way they didn't even come close to the protein consumption of ancient Europeans, which consumed lots of milk and meats, and thats why we are the tallest people in the world

 

[Deleted member 2486]

i even read somewhere that soy actually lowers estrogen

i dont eat it a lot but the reputation of soy is def. a meme

 

[Blackout.xl]

Either way they didn't even come close to the protein consumption of ancient Europeans, which consumed lots of milk and meats, and thats why we are the tallest people in the world

I mean it’s not a contest. The asians had good amounts of protein and didn’t grow. They have modern diets with tons of protein and their height is still stagnant. Their frame is stagnant too. Their dick size is stagnant. It’s the soy

i even read somewhere that soy actually lowers estrogen

i dont eat it a lot but the reputation of soy is def. a meme

Larp or cope.

 

[Tony]

Asians have been eating soy beans for hundreds of years and they were a very masculine society

jfl rices ate a lot of raw fish and raw pork @MentalCel

 

[Jimsonbobson505]

Africans are short due to a lack of nutrition boyo. The ones who get fed are 5’10 minimum. Meanwhile the East Asians have good solid diets for hundreds of years and they haven’t grown

I don't have to read the previous messages but I know your saying soy is bad considering cough cough the chink Asians just look like they haven't even developed