why isnt it possible to go from ltn to cl

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this is probably gonna sound like a retarded question

but a lot of people say that its impossible to go from ltn to cl

however some people agree that going from mtn to cl or htn to cl is possible

and going from ltn to mtn or htn is also possible

so why wouldnt it be possible for an ltn to have 2 ascensions, one where they become mtn and one where they become either htn or lcl

i get that theres a ceiling to a persons ascension but if they ascend from ltn to mtn wouldnt there be flaws that can be fixed which would make them ascend to htn or higher?

the only time i can imagine an ltn that is genuinely unable to ascend past mtn is if they have big unfixable flaws even with surgery, but what if they have multiple small fixable flaws that when combined makes them ltn? they can just get surgery for all of them which could potentially ascend them past mtn.

im aware that getting multiple surgeries is costly and you can end up looking uncanny, its mostly a hypothetical question assuming nothing goes wrong surgery wise.
 
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you just need a miracle
 
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Technically possible but your starting point should be at like 30% bodyfat with surgery fixable failos, you would need to have hella money though
 
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it is possible if body fat is stopping you from mtn. Also every case is different
 
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this is probably gonna sound like a retarded question

but a lot of people say that its impossible to go from ltn to cl

however some people agree that going from mtn to cl or htn to cl is possible

and going from ltn to mtn or htn is also possible

so why wouldnt it be possible for an ltn to have 2 ascensions, one where they become mtn and one where they become either htn or lcl

i get that theres a ceiling to a persons ascension but if they ascend from ltn to mtn wouldnt there be flaws that can be fixed which would make them ascend to htn or higher?

the only time i can imagine an ltn that is genuinely unable to ascend past mtn is if they have big unfixable flaws even with surgery, but what if they have multiple small fixable flaws that when combined makes them ltn? they can just get surgery for all of them which could potentially ascend them past mtn.

im aware that getting multiple surgeries is costly and you can end up looking uncanny, its mostly a hypothetical question assuming nothing goes wrong surgery wise.
With surgery and 💊💉 anything is possible
 
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Maybe if ur underdeveloped and obese then slimming down + puberty saves you
 
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It is depending on age and bf%
People just want to take away hope of ascension from others
 
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this is probably gonna sound like a retarded question

but a lot of people say that its impossible to go from ltn to cl

however some people agree that going from mtn to cl or htn to cl is possible

and going from ltn to mtn or htn is also possible

so why wouldnt it be possible for an ltn to have 2 ascensions, one where they become mtn and one where they become either htn or lcl

i get that theres a ceiling to a persons ascension but if they ascend from ltn to mtn wouldnt there be flaws that can be fixed which would make them ascend to htn or higher?

the only time i can imagine an ltn that is genuinely unable to ascend past mtn is if they have big unfixable flaws even with surgery, but what if they have multiple small fixable flaws that when combined makes them ltn? they can just get surgery for all of them which could potentially ascend them past mtn.

im aware that getting multiple surgeries is costly and you can end up looking uncanny, its mostly a hypothetical question assuming nothing goes wrong surgery wise.
Ita quite random tbh, and keep in mind a lot of the ascensions are while the guy is going through puberty still. I've seen guys with terrible bases somehow ascend to CL level (never Chad though), while some with decent bases ascend maybe only a tier. There's of course a stronger correlation with having a better base leading to a higher ceiling, but it's still fairly arbitrary from what I've seen.
 
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Each case is different, but I think it's possible. You need to softmaxx as much as you can, and then hardmaxx as much as you can too.
 
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this is probably gonna sound like a retarded question

but a lot of people say that its impossible to go from ltn to cl

however some people agree that going from mtn to cl or htn to cl is possible

and going from ltn to mtn or htn is also possible

so why wouldnt it be possible for an ltn to have 2 ascensions, one where they become mtn and one where they become either htn or lcl

i get that theres a ceiling to a persons ascension but if they ascend from ltn to mtn wouldnt there be flaws that can be fixed which would make them ascend to htn or higher?

the only time i can imagine an ltn that is genuinely unable to ascend past mtn is if they have big unfixable flaws even with surgery, but what if they have multiple small fixable flaws that when combined makes them ltn? they can just get surgery for all of them which could potentially ascend them past mtn.

im aware that getting multiple surgeries is costly and you can end up looking uncanny, its mostly a hypothetical question assuming nothing goes wrong surgery wise.
Maybe
 
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It’s possible if you’re ltn like at 12 when not even started puberty
Or if you’re ltn because of pig bodyfat
 
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