Why Jordan Barrett Looks Gay

[MisterMercedes]

Large malar or upper cheek fat pad.

This is not the same as having prominent or forward grown zygos. Christian Bale has forward grown zygos but little upper cheek fat:

This combined with the prominent zygos is why his face looks lean and chiseled.

Barrett, on the other hand, doesn’t have prominent zygos like Bale, but has a large upper cheek fat pad:

This is why his face looks feminine and bloated:

Upper cheek fat is one of the biggest dimorphic traits that separates a male appearance from female. Large upper cheek fat is a feminine and neotonous trait commonly found in attractive women:

Her’s isn’t even as large as Barrett’s:

It’s not due to Barrett’s large maxilla either, which is a masculine trait. O’ Pry has a very forward grown maxillary base but very little upper cheek fat prominence:

This is why, even without prominent zygos, O’ Pry’s face looks more lean and masculine.

Now I’m not saying Barrett looks completely effeminate. He looks more androgynous as he has lots of masculine traits (high cheekbones, long nasal bridge, prominent supraorbital rims, protrusive palate, etc.)

Howeever, he also has lots of overtly feminine traits (weak nasal bridge, short upturned nose, overall lack of facial length, etc.)

So, if you don’t have prominent zygos, technically having a positive orbital vector like Barrett is not good as it’s due to large upper cheek fat, not prominent zygos like Bale. When you have a negative orbital vector due to lack of zygos prominence, it’s better to have little upper cheek fat and have a negative vector than having a positive one because of lots of cheek fat. See O’ Pry for proof.

 

[Deleted member 9048]

tks for this outstanding discovery

 

[AscendingHero]

Good thread. High-IQ. So are you saying it's better to be recessed as a male than to have a large upper malar/cheek fat? Also I'm confused on the part about Barret's orbital vectore @MisterMercedes

 

[MisterMercedes]

Good thread. High-IQ. So are you saying it's better to be recessed as a male than to have a large upper malar/cheek fat? Also I'm confused on the part about Barret's orbital vectore @MisterMercedes

Thank you.

I wouldn’t say it’s better to have less projected zygos. I’m saying it’s better for a male to have little upper cheek fat regardless of his zygos prominence.

Barrett doesn’t have prominent zygos but technically has a positive orbital vector as his upper cheek fat is past his iris. O’ Pry doesn’t have prominent zygos either and has a negative orbital vector because he has little upper cheek fat. Being in O’ Pry’s place is better than Barrett’s.

Bale, Basso, and Eriksen, however, all have prominent zygos and little upper cheek fat, and still have positive vectors because of their zygos prominence:

Easiest way to spot this difference is guy’s like Eriksen have midface regions that are lean yet have jutting zygos:

Guys like Barrett will just look chubby:

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Do most asians have prominent zygos or large cheek pads?

 

[MisterMercedes]

Thank you.

I wouldn’t say it’s better to have less projected zygos. I’m saying it’s better for a male to have little upper cheek fat regardless of his zygos prominence.

Barrett doesn’t have prominent zygos but technically has a positive orbital vector as his upper cheek fat is past his iris. O’ Pry doesn’t have prominent zygos either and has a negative orbital vector because he has little upper cheek fat. Being in O’ Pry’s place is better than Barrett’s.

Bale, Basso, and Eriksen, however, all have prominent zygos and little upper cheek fat, and still have positive vectors because of their zygos prominence:

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Easiest way to spot this difference is guy’s like Eriksen have midface regions that are lean yet have jutting zygos:

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Guys like Barrett will just look chubby:

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An extreme example
Of Barrett would be this guy:

Severely recessed zygos but very large upper cheek fat. You can see the infraorbital rim lies far behind the iris, but the most prominent part of the cheek mass is far past the iris, technically making his orbital vector positive.

This is why implants or fillers to add volume to the cheek don’t make the eyes look deep set in spite of a positive vector. Large cheek fat giving positive vector is not good for males. Prominent zygos is.

That’s why I say, if you have average zygos prominence like O’ Pry, it’s better to have small upper cheek fat and have a negative vector rather than have a positive one due to large cheek fat.

Vs

 

[Philtrumcel]

Large malar or upper cheek fat pad.

This is not the same as having prominent or forward grown zygos. Christian Bale has forward grown zygos but little upper cheek fat:
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This combined with the prominent zygos is why his face looks lean and chiseled.
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Barrett, on the other hand, doesn’t have prominent zygos like Bale, but has a large upper cheek fat pad:
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This is why his face looks feminine and bloated:

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Upper cheek fat is one of the biggest dimorphic traits that separates a male appearance from female. Large upper cheek fat is a feminine and neotonous trait commonly found in attractive women:

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Her’s isn’t even as large as Barrett’s:

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It’s not due to Barrett’s large maxilla either, which is a masculine trait. O’ Pry has a very forward grown maxillary base but very little upper cheek fat prominence:

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This is why, even without prominent zygos, O’ Pry’s face looks more lean and masculine.

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Now I’m not saying Barrett looks completely effeminate. He looks more androgynous as he has lots of masculine traits (high cheekbones, long nasal bridge, prominent supraorbital rims, protrusive palate, etc.)

Howeever, he also has lots of overtly feminine traits (weak nasal bridge, short upturned nose, overall lack of facial length, etc.)

So, if you don’t have prominent zygos, technically having a positive orbital vector like Barrett is not good as it’s due to large upper cheek fat, not prominent zygos like Bale. When you have a negative orbital vector due to lack of zygos prominence, it’s better to have little upper cheek fat and have a negative vector than having a positive one because of lots of cheek fat. See O’ Pry for proof.

But isn’t bale downward grown and forwardgrown like bowie hence why he looks more masculine?

 

[MisterMercedes]

Do most asians have prominent zygos or large cheek pads?

Typically large cheek fat, although I’ve also heard prominent zygos is a trait more commonly found in Asians.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Typically large cheek fat, although I’ve also heard prominent zygos is a trait more commonly found in Asians.

I got pretty large zygos its noticeable wider than my jaw even when I'm higher bodyfat

 

[MisterMercedes]

But isn’t bale downward grown and forwardgrown like bowie hence why he looks more masculine?

Not sure what you mean, but Bale’s occlusal plane is normal/average.

 

[Ertyhhhnnjkkkkk]

 

[DrTony]

Large malar or upper cheek fat pad.

This is not the same as having prominent or forward grown zygos. Christian Bale has forward grown zygos but little upper cheek fat:
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This combined with the prominent zygos is why his face looks lean and chiseled.
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Barrett, on the other hand, doesn’t have prominent zygos like Bale, but has a large upper cheek fat pad:
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View attachment 1082824
This is why his face looks feminine and bloated:

View attachment 1082828View attachment 1082829
Upper cheek fat is one of the biggest dimorphic traits that separates a male appearance from female. Large upper cheek fat is a feminine and neotonous trait commonly found in attractive women:

View attachment 1082830
Her’s isn’t even as large as Barrett’s:

View attachment 1082831
It’s not due to Barrett’s large maxilla either, which is a masculine trait. O’ Pry has a very forward grown maxillary base but very little upper cheek fat prominence:

View attachment 1082832View attachment 1082833
This is why, even without prominent zygos, O’ Pry’s face looks more lean and masculine.

View attachment 1082834

Now I’m not saying Barrett looks completely effeminate. He looks more androgynous as he has lots of masculine traits (high cheekbones, long nasal bridge, prominent supraorbital rims, protrusive palate, etc.)

Howeever, he also has lots of overtly feminine traits (weak nasal bridge, short upturned nose, overall lack of facial length, etc.)

So, if you don’t have prominent zygos, technically having a positive orbital vector like Barrett is not good as it’s due to large upper cheek fat, not prominent zygos like Bale. When you have a negative orbital vector due to lack of zygos prominence, it’s better to have little upper cheek fat and have a negative vector than having a positive one because of lots of cheek fat. See O’ Pry for proof.

The lack of facial length is killing him
And pheno

 

[mogstar]

Dn rd

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

good thread

 

[OOGABOOGA]

Fuark I can’t tell if I have this or I’m just recessed/fat faced. Good thread tho

 

[AscendingHero]

Thank you.

I wouldn’t say it’s better to have less projected zygos. I’m saying it’s better for a male to have little upper cheek fat regardless of his zygos prominence.

Barrett doesn’t have prominent zygos but technically has a positive orbital vector as his upper cheek fat is past his iris. O’ Pry doesn’t have prominent zygos either and has a negative orbital vector because he has little upper cheek fat. Being in O’ Pry’s place is better than Barrett’s.

Bale, Basso, and Eriksen, however, all have prominent zygos and little upper cheek fat, and still have positive vectors because of their zygos prominence:

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Easiest way to spot this difference is guy’s like Eriksen have midface regions that are lean yet have jutting zygos:

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Guys like Barrett will just look chubby:

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So little upper cheek fat for men is ideal & bones>>>fat

 

[AscendingHero]

Large malar or upper cheek fat pad.

This is not the same as having prominent or forward grown zygos. Christian Bale has forward grown zygos but little upper cheek fat:
View attachment 1082819
View attachment 1082820

This combined with the prominent zygos is why his face looks lean and chiseled.
View attachment 1082821
Barrett, on the other hand, doesn’t have prominent zygos like Bale, but has a large upper cheek fat pad:
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View attachment 1082824
This is why his face looks feminine and bloated:

View attachment 1082828View attachment 1082829
Upper cheek fat is one of the biggest dimorphic traits that separates a male appearance from female. Large upper cheek fat is a feminine and neotonous trait commonly found in attractive women:

View attachment 1082830
Her’s isn’t even as large as Barrett’s:

View attachment 1082831
It’s not due to Barrett’s large maxilla either, which is a masculine trait. O’ Pry has a very forward grown maxillary base but very little upper cheek fat prominence:

View attachment 1082832View attachment 1082833
This is why, even without prominent zygos, O’ Pry’s face looks more lean and masculine.

View attachment 1082834

Now I’m not saying Barrett looks completely effeminate. He looks more androgynous as he has lots of masculine traits (high cheekbones, long nasal bridge, prominent supraorbital rims, protrusive palate, etc.)

Howeever, he also has lots of overtly feminine traits (weak nasal bridge, short upturned nose, overall lack of facial length, etc.)

So, if you don’t have prominent zygos, technically having a positive orbital vector like Barrett is not good as it’s due to large upper cheek fat, not prominent zygos like Bale. When you have a negative orbital vector due to lack of zygos prominence, it’s better to have little upper cheek fat and have a negative vector than having a positive one because of lots of cheek fat. See O’ Pry for proof.

How can I pubertycel like me get better zygos? Thoughts on MSE?? @MisterMercedes

 

[Momstouch]

Nah you idiot the reason why barrett looks bloated is that he has wide face. If you have a wide face, even a little body fat gain is fatal.

 

[andy9432]

He has no wisdom teeth = suboptimal facial development.

 

[Deleted member 13076]

Never understood the fascination with this tranny looking faggot

 

[MisterMercedes]

Nah you idiot the reason why barrett looks bloated is that he has wide face. If you have a wide face, even a little body fat gain is fatal.

His upper cheek fat is objectively prominent, but the idea that having a wide skull means you are going to have a more bloated face is absurd:

Feel free to find sources connecting skull width with facial adiposity.

 

[Deleted member 7580]

Very short midface and lower third

 

[MisterMercedes]

Very short midface and lower third

That contributes as well, but his lack of facial height would be redeemable if other traits were better.

DiCaprio has just as short of a face, but I don’t think he looks as gay as Barrett. He has little upper cheek fat, more projected nasal bridge, longer nostrils, etc.

 

[randomvanish]

barrett would be gigastacy. wasted potential

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

Large malar or upper cheek fat pad.

This is not the same as having prominent or forward grown zygos. Christian Bale has forward grown zygos but little upper cheek fat:
View attachment 1082819
View attachment 1082820

This combined with the prominent zygos is why his face looks lean and chiseled.
View attachment 1082821
Barrett, on the other hand, doesn’t have prominent zygos like Bale, but has a large upper cheek fat pad:
View attachment 1082823
View attachment 1082824
This is why his face looks feminine and bloated:

View attachment 1082828View attachment 1082829
Upper cheek fat is one of the biggest dimorphic traits that separates a male appearance from female. Large upper cheek fat is a feminine and neotonous trait commonly found in attractive women:

View attachment 1082830
Her’s isn’t even as large as Barrett’s:

View attachment 1082831
It’s not due to Barrett’s large maxilla either, which is a masculine trait. O’ Pry has a very forward grown maxillary base but very little upper cheek fat prominence:

View attachment 1082832View attachment 1082833
This is why, even without prominent zygos, O’ Pry’s face looks more lean and masculine.

View attachment 1082834

Now I’m not saying Barrett looks completely effeminate. He looks more androgynous as he has lots of masculine traits (high cheekbones, long nasal bridge, prominent supraorbital rims, protrusive palate, etc.)

Howeever, he also has lots of overtly feminine traits (weak nasal bridge, short upturned nose, overall lack of facial length, etc.)

So, if you don’t have prominent zygos, technically having a positive orbital vector like Barrett is not good as it’s due to large upper cheek fat, not prominent zygos like Bale. When you have a negative orbital vector due to lack of zygos prominence, it’s better to have little upper cheek fat and have a negative vector than having a positive one because of lots of cheek fat. See O’ Pry for proof.

Very cool observation. Barrett looks kinda gaay becaus he has the filler look which is exactly what fat does. Got what you’re saying. He’s gonna look insane into his later 20s and 30 because buccal fat and malar pads are gonna go away and will make him very masc.

 

[thecel]

Barrett doesn't look gay. Stop coping.

 

[Pei]

Large malar or upper cheek fat pad.

This is not the same as having prominent or forward grown zygos. Christian Bale has forward grown zygos but little upper cheek fat:
View attachment 1082819
View attachment 1082820

This combined with the prominent zygos is why his face looks lean and chiseled.
View attachment 1082821
Barrett, on the other hand, doesn’t have prominent zygos like Bale, but has a large upper cheek fat pad:
View attachment 1082823
View attachment 1082824
This is why his face looks feminine and bloated:

View attachment 1082828View attachment 1082829
Upper cheek fat is one of the biggest dimorphic traits that separates a male appearance from female. Large upper cheek fat is a feminine and neotonous trait commonly found in attractive women:

View attachment 1082830
Her’s isn’t even as large as Barrett’s:

View attachment 1082831
It’s not due to Barrett’s large maxilla either, which is a masculine trait. O’ Pry has a very forward grown maxillary base but very little upper cheek fat prominence:

View attachment 1082832View attachment 1082833
This is why, even without prominent zygos, O’ Pry’s face looks more lean and masculine.

View attachment 1082834

Now I’m not saying Barrett looks completely effeminate. He looks more androgynous as he has lots of masculine traits (high cheekbones, long nasal bridge, prominent supraorbital rims, protrusive palate, etc.)

Howeever, he also has lots of overtly feminine traits (weak nasal bridge, short upturned nose, overall lack of facial length, etc.)

So, if you don’t have prominent zygos, technically having a positive orbital vector like Barrett is not good as it’s due to large upper cheek fat, not prominent zygos like Bale. When you have a negative orbital vector due to lack of zygos prominence, it’s better to have little upper cheek fat and have a negative vector than having a positive one because of lots of cheek fat. See O’ Pry for proof.

So does Barret have negative vector without the fat

 

[Iblamejordan]

Interesting thread, but It's all about forward growth not prominent zygos

 

[ripcordgod1]

shit thread he just looks uncanny because his face is too wide and has very prominent cheekbones

 

[Pei]

He has no wisdom teeth = suboptimal facial development.

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